# Survivor: Guatemala Ep. 12 - "Price for Immunity" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 2, 2005, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-12-price-for-immunity/333645 "2005-12-02T00:20:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-12-price-for-immunity/333645/1 "2005-12-02T00:20:51Z")
No thread yet? Show starts in under an hour, guys! Or is everyone else boycotting because Gary is gone? Anyway, here’s our description: > [@Yahoo! TV](#): > > Danni plants doubt in another castaway’s mind in an attempt to break up the core alliance. This might be the first time I’ve ever seen a player’s name indicated directly in the episode description text. Huh. Interesting. I kind of hope it isn’t because she’s going home this week. I don’t particularly like her, but she’s playing a good game, and at any rate, she isn’t Stephenie, so she’s better than the alternative. Also: If I’m not around later, it’s because I drank 4 liters (!!) of Mountain Dew (!!!) for breakfast today, and then had this stuff my boss’s wife makes called “Brownie Delight” for lunch – which is basically chocolate-covered crack with Cool Whip. So probably I passed out, or else entered rehab. Just so you know. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-12-price-for-immunity/333645/2 "2005-12-02T00:30:44Z")
> [@rockle](#): > > Show starts in under an hour, guys! Actually it doesn’t start for three and a half hours. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-12-price-for-immunity/333645/3 "2005-12-02T00:52:07Z")
> [@rockle](#): > > Also: If I’m not around later, it’s because I drank 4 liters (!!) of Mountain Dew (!!!) for breakfast today, and then had this stuff my boss’s wife makes called “Brownie Delight” for lunch – which is basically chocolate-covered crack with Cool Whip. So probably I passed out, or else entered rehab. Just so you know. Or else you’re in the bathroom. And will be for a LONG time… ---
**Author:** ![GraceTX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c4cdca/32.png) [@GraceTX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GraceTX)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-12-price-for-immunity/333645/4 "2005-12-02T01:41:28Z")
Yay Danni! ---
**Author:** ![GraceTX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c4cdca/32.png) [@GraceTX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GraceTX)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-12-price-for-immunity/333645/5 "2005-12-02T01:56:06Z")
Ha ha! Best exit ever! Finally, someone left and actually showed that they were supremely upset and bitter about it. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-12-price-for-immunity/333645/6 "2005-12-02T01:59:27Z")
He IS Sportsmanship, man! ---
**Author:** ![Critical\_Mass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f1d935/32.png) [@Critical\_Mass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Critical_Mass)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-12-price-for-immunity/333645/7 "2005-12-02T01:59:59Z")
…scumbags… ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-12-price-for-immunity/333645/8 "2005-12-02T02:08:04Z")
BWAHAHAHAHA!!! A few thoughts: How gay do you have to be to have your _mother_ be your overnight guest?! Speaking of which, kudos to the ladies. This season is starting to remind me of the gender wars season. Will Rafe be able to pull a Chris? I wonder if the rest of the season will devolve into catty bitchfest 101, with four women and a gay guy. I honestly don’t think it will, but here’s hoping. (It makes for great tv, don’tcha know.) Danni better be careful…if she loses another 20 pounds, she’ll be almost as skinny as Dolphin Boy. _::shudders::_ ---
**Author:** ![Otanabi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Otanabi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otanabi)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-12-price-for-immunity/333645/9 "2005-12-02T02:08:51Z")
But can he beat the “snake or rat” speech? Stay tuned, kiddies. ---
**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-12-price-for-immunity/333645/10 "2005-12-02T02:53:25Z")
> [@Ellis Dee](#): > > BWAHAHAHAHA!!! > > A few thoughts: > > How gay do you have to be to have your _mother_ be your overnight guest?! > _::shudders::_ As gay as Colby Donaldson, I suppose. Stephenie has made a terrible mistake in judgment, IMO. She was practically guaranteed a spot in the Final Four if she’d have just kept her alliance. Judd has shown all along that his loyalty is with his “Jersey Girl.” Twice he took her along on his reward challenge and there were absolutely no cracks in his steadfastness in his plan to take Steph, Cindy and Rafe to the Final Four. Why in the world did she turn now? If she was going to vote a threat off, she should have voted Rafe off, who has won, what? 3 of the four individual immunity challenges? Now not only has she shown that she cannot be trusted, because she stabbed her truest “friend” in the back, but she has also pissed off Cindy. If Danni can stick it out past this next week, when she’s still in the minority, I think she’ll be sitting pretty. I would imagine she’d have Gary’s vote, Bobby Jon’s vote and probably Judd’s vote vs. any of the remaining players save maybe Cindy. Gooooooooooo Danni. ---
**Author:** ![Mama\_Tiger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6de8d8/32.png) [@Mama\_Tiger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mama_Tiger)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-12-price-for-immunity/333645/11 "2005-12-02T03:42:57Z")
Wow, Danni was doing a superb job of shit-stirring this week, wasn’t she? I about died laughing when Judd left. Scumbag himself! He was already counting his million, so it was great to see him get the shaft like that. So at this point there’s a whole lot of testosterone on the jury. And that’s ALL there is, not a drop of estrogen in sight. I’m still trying to figure out how it will shake out for the final vote – although I’m sure if Steph makes it to final two (which I absolutely _do not_ see happening now that Danni helped her basically destroy her own alliance) we’ll hear some outstanding bitterness from Judd. It’s kind of sad when even crazy Jamie can summon more pretend grace about being blindsided than supposedly non-crazy Judd, though. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-12-price-for-immunity/333645/12 "2005-12-02T03:48:02Z")
It always amuses me when someone starts to think that they’re the only ones who realize they’re playing Survivor rather than Card Sharks, then get all upset when they’re stabbed in the back. It definitely speaks of a “what’s good for me ain’t good for you!” mentality. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-12-price-for-immunity/333645/13 "2005-12-02T03:52:38Z")
Judd reminds me of Tom last year - he was willing to lie to people when it was a good idea while convincing himself he was the most honorable man in the game. Apparently a lie only counts when someone tells it him. ---
**Author:** ![Frostillicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Frostillicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frostillicus)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-12-price-for-immunity/333645/14 "2005-12-02T04:01:29Z")
Was I the only one who thought that Danni was looking especially hot tonight in her short-shorts? Yummy! 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-12-price-for-immunity/333645/15 "2005-12-02T04:04:34Z")
Oh, I just wanted to mention… When Judd’s wife was so amazed at Judd actually knowing how to do things, I blurted out “Judd! You’ve become…USEFUL!” Oh, and HOWLIE! ---
**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-12-price-for-immunity/333645/16 "2005-12-02T04:56:51Z")
Judd’s exit was just as classless as nearly his every other action on the show. As a fellow New Jerseyan I am embarrassed by his behavior. Steph’s also an idiot. I agree she should have voted off Rafe. He’s the only left that I really like and respect. Did anyone notice that Cindy’s twin is named Mindy? What an icky pair of names! All that time in the jungle has made them look a lot less identical. ---
**Author:** ![Poonther](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Poonther](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Poonther)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-12-price-for-immunity/333645/17 "2005-12-02T05:34:42Z")
I still hate Stephanie. I’m glad she is destroying her alliances…scumbag!!! Did you notice how when they were bidding on their loved ones, the two that were trying the hardest (with the help of borrowed money) were the ones that could have sex w/their loved ones…Stephanie and Judd. Well maybe Rafe could have too w/his Mom. 😛 Go Rafe! ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-12-price-for-immunity/333645/18 "2005-12-02T05:35:42Z")
> [@Judd](#): > > If you get voted out, it’s no hard feelings. > > \ > > I hope you all get bitten by a crocodile. You scumbags. Scumbags. HAW! HAW! HAW! I agree. Best Exit Ever. > [@Frostillicus](#): > > Was I the only one who thought that Danni was looking especially hot tonight in her short-shorts? Yummy! 🆒 Nah, too skinny and her hat bugs me. And Cindy is cuter. Steph was a lock for the Final Four, and she blew that guaranteed position. Assuming the F4 were Steph, Judd, Rafe and Cindy (S. and J. because of their alliance, R. because he kept winning Immmunity, and C. because Danni wasn’t part of the group), I think all of the players would want Judd along because he’s an oaf. I think Rafe would be voted out because he wins all the time. Cindy would fall in the IC. Steph and Judd to the Final Two. But Judd’s gone. How’s it going to shake up now? I’ll think on it later. ---
**Author:** ![thinksnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thinksnow/32/2849_2.png) [@thinksnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thinksnow)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-12-price-for-immunity/333645/19 "2005-12-02T12:58:17Z")
I just loved the “Everyone’s paying the game, whether they say it or not. …Someone has to go for everyone else to stay and they should just get over it” speech that he immediately seemed to have forgotten giving, as well as his “I’ve never lied to any of them!” Moron. It’s like he thinks by his saying it, it’ll be true. Judd, we have you on tape lying. You admitted to it and admitted to getting caught lying! ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-12-price-for-immunity/333645/20 "2005-12-02T13:00:47Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > It always amuses me when someone starts to think that they’re the only ones who realize they’re playing Survivor rather than Card Sharks … OK, so I went to bed really early last night (seriously, I was asleep by 7:45, but in my defense I took two Benadryl by mistake because I was buzzing around the house from all the sugar and the caffeine and the crack and the chocolate and I kind of forgot how to count there, for a minute), and … wait. I had a point, but now I can’t remember what it is. Oh, yeah. **jayjay** , it’s a shame that we live so far apart, because I’d love to watch these shows with you. Because this is _totally_ something I would say. It’d hit pause on the TiVo and turn to you and say, “These people _do_ realize that they’re not playing Card Sharks, right?” So, thanks for that. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-12-price-for-immunity/333645.md?page=2)