# Survivor: Guatemala Ep. 13 - "Big Win, Big Decision. Big Mistake?" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 8, 2005, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-13-big-win-big-decision-big-mistake/334731 "2005-12-08T18:44:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2005, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-13-big-win-big-decision-big-mistake/334731/1 "2005-12-08T18:44:48Z")
Two more episodes, you guys! Tonight is the Penultimate Peril for our lovely cataways, plus Stephenie. Which means, on the plus side, that we only have to endure the Passion of the Steph for a few more days. Tonight’s episode ought to be a good one: > [@Yahoo! TV](#): > > One castaway who wins a car must decide whether to believe in the “car curse.” You’ll never ever hear me say this again, but … let’s hope Stephenie wins this one! The rest of the players left are no dummies. They’ll get rid of her after that, right? _Right?_ ---
**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2005, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-13-big-win-big-decision-big-mistake/334731/2 "2005-12-08T18:50:23Z")
According to the commercial CBS is showing every ten minutes, whoever wins the car has the option of taking the car _or_ giving it up so everybody _else_ gets one. That is one bitch of a rule, and I like it a lot. It’s one thing when it’s the loved ones. It’s entirely different when you’re deciding that you don’t want a new car. I’m just really hoping that Judd can’t keep his mouthsmanship shut at Tribal. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2005, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-13-big-win-big-decision-big-mistake/334731/3 "2005-12-08T19:04:57Z")
> [@Draelin](#): > > According to the commercial CBS is showing every ten minutes, whoever wins the car has the option of taking the car _or_ giving it up so everybody _else_ gets one. That is one bitch of a rule, and I like it a lot. It’s one thing when it’s the loved ones. It’s entirely different when you’re deciding that you don’t want a new car. > > I’m just really hoping that Judd can’t keep his mouthsmanship shut at Tribal. 😃 Huh … interesting. It will make someone wonder whether the cars themselves are cursed, or just the _winning_ of the cars. Verrrrrry interesting. ---
**Author:** ![Mama\_Tiger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6de8d8/32.png) [@Mama\_Tiger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mama_Tiger)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2005, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-13-big-win-big-decision-big-mistake/334731/4 "2005-12-08T19:18:14Z")
I guess we’ll find out if the car curse is associated with winning the car or the car itself tonight. Because you know whoever wins it almost _has_ to give it up or risk losing all those nice votes at the final tribal council. Definitely a good twist. ---
**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2005, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-13-big-win-big-decision-big-mistake/334731/5 "2005-12-08T20:01:17Z")
Any non-spoiler boot predictions? I am going to go out on a limb and say it is Steph! ---
**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2005, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-13-big-win-big-decision-big-mistake/334731/6 "2005-12-08T20:20:15Z")
> [@middleman](#): > > Any non-spoiler boot predictions? Did Cindy throw a fit in the previews last week? Fit-throwers usually go home. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2005, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-13-big-win-big-decision-big-mistake/334731/7 "2005-12-08T20:47:26Z")
> [@Draelin](#): > > Did Cindy throw a fit in the previews last week? Fit-throwers usually go home. The fact that it was shown in the previews means she is probably quite safe. ---
**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2005, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-13-big-win-big-decision-big-mistake/334731/8 "2005-12-08T21:16:59Z")
And didn’t her fit look a little tame? More like pouting and fear than fits and yelling. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Big\_Cheese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8baadc/32.png) [@The\_Big\_Cheese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Big_Cheese)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2005, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-13-big-win-big-decision-big-mistake/334731/9 "2005-12-08T23:24:18Z")
[judd]Man, you’d have to be a real scumbag to not give a car to everyone else, man. You know what I mean, man? If you can give one to everyone else do it, man. Don’t be a freakin’ scumbag, man.[/judd] ---
**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2005, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-13-big-win-big-decision-big-mistake/334731/10 "2005-12-08T23:34:16Z")
Twenty bucks says that if the winner of the challenge chooses to give up the car, they get awarded a car anyway during the final episode, for being good sportsmanship. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2005, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-13-big-win-big-decision-big-mistake/334731/11 "2005-12-08T23:50:48Z")
I’m always wondering how the make sure the castaways jump up and down with excitement when they win those P.O.S. cars. Frankly, if it was me, I’d be asking Probst how much that thing is worth on the open market. Hey, that’s an idea… How high a bid can you get on eBay for an **Official Survivor Car**? I’d throw in an autographed picture for free!! ---
**Author:** ![GraceTX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c4cdca/32.png) [@GraceTX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GraceTX)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2005, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-13-big-win-big-decision-big-mistake/334731/12 "2005-12-09T00:05:18Z")
> [@John Mace](#): > > I’m always wondering how the make sure the castaways jump up and down with excitement when they win those P.O.S. cars. Frankly, if it was me, I’d be asking Probst how much that thing is worth on the open market. Ian got a Corvette. I wouldn’t exactly call that a piece of shit car. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2005, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-13-big-win-big-decision-big-mistake/334731/13 "2005-12-09T00:07:14Z")
> [@Lil' Mahoney](#): > > Ian got a Corvette. I wouldn’t exactly call that a piece of shit car. Not if you’re a balding, middle aged man with a mid-life crisis it isn’t. Unless, of course, it was a 1963 corvette!!! 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2005, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-13-big-win-big-decision-big-mistake/334731/14 "2005-12-09T00:07:32Z")
I thought I saw a preview with a shot of Steph crying. My guess is, she wins the car, elects to keep it, and gets voted out in return. Nobody wants to give her a chance to break the car curse, you know? Or we’d _never_ hear the end of it. ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2005, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-13-big-win-big-decision-big-mistake/334731/15 "2005-12-09T00:09:50Z")
> [@Lil' Mahoney](#): > > Ian got a Corvette. I wouldn’t exactly call that a piece of shit car. _Mmmm_ … Ian in a shiny new red Corvette. Not that he _needs_ the Corvette to cause the drooling, of course, but I’d be a _fool_ to turn down a chance to christen _that_ back seat. (Assuming it has one.) And I may be a lot of things, but a fool _ain’t_ one of 'em. (Generally speaking.) ---
**Author:** ![BiblioCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BiblioCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BiblioCat)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2005, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-13-big-win-big-decision-big-mistake/334731/16 "2005-12-09T00:25:08Z")
Stop drooling all over the thread, **rockle**. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2005, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-13-big-win-big-decision-big-mistake/334731/17 "2005-12-09T00:32:24Z")
It would be SOOOOOO stupid to base your vote at TC on whether or not someone did or didn’t give you a car. The producers put these types of things in there on purpose to coax people into making stupid decisions and mix things up. You gotta trust your alliance above all else. ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2005, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-13-big-win-big-decision-big-mistake/334731/18 "2005-12-09T00:39:43Z")
> [@BiblioCat](#): > > Stop drooling all over the thread, **rockle**. > > 😉 It’s my thread, and I can drool if I want to … ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2005, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-13-big-win-big-decision-big-mistake/334731/19 "2005-12-09T01:23:39Z")
Oh, Cindy, you silly, silly girl. You’re toast, I think. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2005, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-13-big-win-big-decision-big-mistake/334731/20 "2005-12-09T01:59:23Z")
Mah Gawd! The sense of ENTITLEMENT! “_ **I** _ would have given it up!” Right… Stephenie had the best attitude about it. She was incredibly happy for Cindy. Rafe and Danni, not so much…and of course, we have Lydia with her utility vote again. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-13-big-win-big-decision-big-mistake/334731.md?page=2)