# Survivor: Guatemala - Ep. 2: "Man Down"

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-2-man-down/322972>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 22, 2005, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-2-man-down/322972 "2005-09-22T23:54:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2005, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-2-man-down/322972/41 "2005-09-23T20:18:55Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> **rockle** …“if you’ve a date in Constantinople she’ll be waiting in Istanbul.”

Hey … that’s nobody’s business but the Turks!

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2005, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-2-man-down/322972/42 "2005-09-23T20:36:19Z")

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> [@rockle](#):
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> Hey … that’s nobody’s business but the Turks!

Great…now I’ve got an earworm. Doot doo doo, dootdoodadoodledoodle…

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**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2005, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-2-man-down/322972/43 "2005-09-24T01:41:58Z")

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> [@John Mace](#):
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> I know what he’s getting at. And **maybe** , that would be a concern for the final vote of the last two standing, but no one bases a vote at this stage on who does or does not need the money. He’s just making such a big deal about how he’s pulling the wool over everyone’s eyes, when in fact there isn’t any wool to pulled. Maybe he’d be more comfortable on SURREAL LIFE.

No, you’re not being logical. First of all, it wouldn’t be the first time someone was voted out early because of an assumption they don’t need the money.  
Second, if he DOES get to the final two, he can’t somehow erase their memory if he had earlier admitted he was in the NFL.

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**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2005, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-2-man-down/322972/44 "2005-09-24T01:48:33Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> Great…now I’ve got an earworm. Doot doo doo, dootdoodadoodledoodle…

I can switch over to “Ana Ng” if you want …

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2005, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-2-man-down/322972/45 "2005-09-24T01:56:10Z")

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What’s the deal with Constantinople? 😕

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**Author:** ![The\_Big\_Cheese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8baadc/32.png) [@The\_Big\_Cheese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Big_Cheese)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2005, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-2-man-down/322972/46 "2005-09-24T02:02:36Z")

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So i couldn’t quite figure out what happened. I saw the first 30 minutes then had to leave. spoil it.

Morgan, the magicians assistant got the boot? She’s on the team with The QB, not Team Yak…right??

what was the challenge? Any special reason they booted her, seems like there were a lot just sitting around looking pretty.  
And someone near the top asked about the skeleton…seems like there’s a lot of skeletons this year already.

and didn’t get a chance last week, but the guy that got the boot said “I’m really proud of what I accomplished…” wtf?? What you accomplished?? You pulled your muscle off the bone and got the boot in week 1–what exactly did you accomplish??

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2005, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-2-man-down/322972/47 "2005-09-24T02:34:29Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Morgan, the magicians assistant got the boot? She’s on the team with The QB, not Team Yak…right??

The immunity challenge involved a tug of war in a mud pit. They first had the tow teams pulling against each other but when that didn’t produce a result, they went to a series of one-on-one contests. Judd and Gary went first. While they were competing Danni yelled out “He’s a quarterback and you’re a linebacker.” This appeared to surprise Gary for a second and Judd was able to pull ahead and win. The Brandon beat Jamie in the second round. Judd and Jamie returned for the third round; it looked like Jamie was going to win but Judd pulled ahead at the last second. So the Nakums won 3-0 and the Yaxhas had to go to TC.

Back at camp, Brian asked Gary if he was a former football player. In addition to her yelled remark, he said Danni had told him during the challenge. Gary denied it.

Stephanie was worried that she might be voted off because she had been on the show before. But Gary, Rafe, and Amy were apparently the ones who were deciding; they wanted to get rid of either Morgan, because she didn’t do any work in the camp, or Lydia, because they thought she was weak in the challenges. Originally they decided on Lydia. They then went and told Stephanie, Jamie, and Brian. Brian was the only one who protested because he thought Morgan should be the one voted out. He went and told Lydia she was the one going and told her she should persuade Gary to change his mind. She talked to Gary and apparently convinced him. Morgan apparently didn’t have a clue she was being considered and was surprised when she ended up being voted off 7-1.

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**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2005, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-2-man-down/322972/48 "2005-09-24T02:36:11Z")

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> [@The Big Cheese](#):
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> and didn’t get a chance last week, but the guy that got the boot said “I’m really proud of what I accomplished…” wtf?? What you accomplished?? You pulled your muscle off the bone and got the boot in week 1–what exactly did you accomplish??

An 11 mile hike in those conditions is a pretty decent achievement.

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**Author:** ![The\_Big\_Cheese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8baadc/32.png) [@The\_Big\_Cheese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Big_Cheese)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2005, 9:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-2-man-down/322972/49 "2005-09-24T09:24:13Z")

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Thanks Nemo,  
and I forgot about the hike…I only saw about 35 minutes of that one. …vcr only works when I’m there.

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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2005, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-2-man-down/322972/50 "2005-09-24T13:12:22Z")

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> [@Johnny L.A.](#):
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> What’s the deal with Constantinople? 😕

See [here](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Istanbul_%28Not_Constantinople%29).

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2005, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-2-man-down/322972/51 "2005-09-24T13:56:30Z")

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> [@squeegee](#):
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> See [here](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Istanbul_%28Not_Constantinople%29).

I’m familiar with the song (I even bookmarked the lyrics a while ago), but I’m confused about how they relate to _Survivor_ in Guatamala.

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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2005, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-2-man-down/322972/52 "2005-09-24T14:58:57Z")

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> [@Johnny L.A.](#):
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> I’m familiar with the song (I even bookmarked the lyrics a while ago), but I’m confused about how they relate to _Survivor_ in Guatamala.

OK, then.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2005, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-2-man-down/322972/53 "2005-09-24T19:40:16Z")

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> [@Johnny L.A.](#):
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> I’m familiar with the song (I even bookmarked the lyrics a while ago), but I’m confused about how they relate to _Survivor_ in Guatamala.

They don’t; we’re off on a tangent. See post #10 and #39.

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