# Survivor: Guatemala Ep. 7 - "Surprise Enemy Visit" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 27, 2005, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-7-surprise-enemy-visit/328191 "2005-10-27T19:35:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-7-surprise-enemy-visit/328191/21 "2005-10-28T14:24:52Z")
Okay, so I was wrong about “deciding” to visit the other tribe. I’m big enough to admit it. 🙂 **Little Nemo** , you’re right. Danni _does_ look like Tawny Kitaen–only skeletonier. Can anybody explain to me why the open festering wounds appear to have turned white? That’s just plain gross, but I don’t get it. I try to limit my intimate familiarity with open festering wounds, if at all possible. Did anybody else catch that look that Bobby Jon threw Brandon when he said that maybe you don’t honor alliances? It was priceless. I think ol’ BJ really thought he was going last night. And I think he _should_ have. But what he said about Amy was very, very sweet. And is this the lamest merge ever, or what? ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-7-surprise-enemy-visit/328191/22 "2005-10-28T14:47:19Z")
> [@Draelin](#): > > Can anybody explain to me why the open festering wounds appear to have turned white? That’s just plain gross, but I don’t get it. I try to limit my intimate familiarity with open festering wounds, if at all possible. I fell off a merry-go-round at the local park once and got a big ugly scab on my shoulder. I spent a lot of time in the pool that summer, and the scab stayed pretty much white, from being wet all the time. _ **BUT.** _ Never in a million squillion years would I ever use my own scabs as bait. Even for minnows. Gee-_ross_. And somehow, it’s infinitely grosser that Bobby Jon was _trying to catch minnows in his mouth that were just trying to eat skin off his own person._ That boy done lost his ever-lovin’ mind, I tell you whut. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Big\_Cheese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8baadc/32.png) [@The\_Big\_Cheese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Big_Cheese)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-7-surprise-enemy-visit/328191/23 "2005-10-28T14:48:30Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > I can not believe the contestants feel sorry for Bobby Jon. Who cares if he wants to make the jury and never made it to the merge before? > > He also has been given a second chance for no reason and both he and Stephanie should have been voted off immediately. Why are they still on? But…But…But this is his LIFELONG DREAM!!! How can you take that away form him! Ever since he was a little Bobby Jon he dreamed of being on the jury. He said so. :dubious: A. Wouldn’t your dream be, oh, I don’t know, to maybe WIN the show SURVIVOR?? No, he just wants to make it to jury & merge. B. The show’s been on for what, 7 years? But it’s his lifelong dream? Gary is the luckiest guy around. If they went to Tribal Council next week with those 4 he’s the one being waived. Now the ‘whole dynamics’ will be changing. I think they shoulda used that PhotoShop-like digitized thing on Judd in those boxer briefs. (I think that’s what they were, but I turned my eyes real quick–didn’t want to be blinded.) Looks like next week he gets into it with someone again–I’m shocked! :eek: Meh episode. Merge, ya da hey. ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-7-surprise-enemy-visit/328191/24 "2005-10-28T16:03:07Z")
> [@The Big Cheese](#): > > Gary is the luckiest guy around. If they went to Tribal Council next week with those 4 he’s the one being waived. Now the ‘whole dynamics’ will be changing. I meant to mention this. (Sorry, I forgot, but what do you people _want_ from me? I’m dressed as a _lobster_ for Halloween at work, _ferchrissakes_!) Gary pretty much won the lottery last night. Good for him! I like him, even if I can’t understand anything he’s saying. ---
**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-7-surprise-enemy-visit/328191/25 "2005-10-28T16:05:42Z")
Thoughts: Way too many alpha males in the merged tribe now. Good times for Lydia and others to take Brian’s lead and let the oxes self-destruct. Brandon’s an idiot for mouthing off at TC and then not voting out Bobby Jon. “some people don’t deserve to be here” and “maybe it’s time to break alliances”? Good going, dingleberry. Way to alienate your ally. Bobby Jon - Are you TRYING to get some awful infection? Eating minnows raw and straight from the river as they feast on your decaying flesh…could be some germs there. Rewards suppliers - You guys are evil. Feeding starving people massive quantities of alcohol and/or chocolate is just cruel. I’m suprised we were spared footage of people hurling. ---
**Author:** ![CapnPitt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/edb3f5/32.png) [@CapnPitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CapnPitt)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-7-surprise-enemy-visit/328191/26 "2005-10-28T16:28:18Z")
The main drawback of the episode was the absolutely-to-be-expected “curve” thrown by Burnett last night. In standard Survivor fashion, whoever’s being talked about most for being booted has no chance of being booted. No statistics here, just guy instinct. It feels like it happens all the time. Other than that, pretty good episode despite no laff riot Judd meltdown this week. ---
**Author:** ![Walkabout](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/46a35a/32.png) [@Walkabout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walkabout)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-7-surprise-enemy-visit/328191/27 "2005-10-28T18:04:38Z")
Attention, **rockle** : your Survivor! boyfriend Ian is on “Survivor Live” on the CBS [website](http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor11/) RIGHT NOW! ---
**Author:** ![GargoyleWB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gargoylewb/32/199_2.png) [@GargoyleWB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GargoyleWB)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-7-surprise-enemy-visit/328191/28 "2005-10-28T18:17:44Z")
What are people referring to about “family messages”? I haven’t noticed anything, although the monkeys in the trees look like they have some sort of nuclear family structure. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-7-surprise-enemy-visit/328191/29 "2005-10-28T18:36:05Z")
> [@GargoyleWB](#): > > What are people referring to about “family messages”? I haven’t noticed anything, although the monkeys in the trees look like they have some sort of nuclear family structure. Keep watching after the show is over. They show a clip of the survivor who was booted’s famly wishing them good luck. ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-7-surprise-enemy-visit/328191/30 "2005-10-28T18:43:28Z")
> [@WVmom](#): > > Attention, **rockle** : your Survivor! boyfriend Ian is on “Survivor Live” on the CBS [website](http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor11/) RIGHT NOW! Holy carp! His little Halloween costume is ADORABLE! … Sigh … I miss him _so_ much. _Call me, Ian!_ GASP … You don’t suppose there’s any chance that _Ian_ will be the new host when Probsty leaves, do you? Dare I even think it? By the way, Amy looks quite lovely on the Webchat. She looks really great. ---
**Author:** ![Walkabout](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/46a35a/32.png) [@Walkabout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walkabout)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-7-surprise-enemy-visit/328191/31 "2005-10-28T19:05:22Z")
He’s pretty cute, but I can hardly watch that thing with Jenna Morasco on it. I can’t stand her! I liked it when Richard Hatch was on it. I boycotted it most of last season because of her, but I finally had to give in, just to see my favorites (like Ian). ---
**Author:** ![DeVena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dec6dc/32.png) [@DeVena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeVena)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-7-surprise-enemy-visit/328191/32 "2005-10-28T19:18:28Z")
> [@rockle](#): > > -snip- (Sorry, I forgot, but what do you people _want_ from me? I’m dressed as a _lobster_ for Halloween at work, _ferchrissakes_!) -snip- OK just a second. \*\*rockle \*\* is a lobster for Halloween? Would that make you a _Rock_le _Lobster_? Do you have a beehive hairdo and big claws and sing B-52 songs??? On that note, I think I need to find something to eat before I post any more… ---
**Author:** ![GraceTX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c4cdca/32.png) [@GraceTX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GraceTX)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-7-surprise-enemy-visit/328191/33 "2005-10-28T19:25:22Z")
Did anyone else lose sound during the Survivor Live broadcast? I had sound and it suddenly went out and I don’t know if it’s just my computer. ---
**Author:** ![SkeptiJess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea666f/32.png) [@SkeptiJess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkeptiJess)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-7-surprise-enemy-visit/328191/34 "2005-10-28T19:54:09Z")
Nobody else noticed when Bobbie Jon said something was “the gold _rush_ at the end of the rainbow?” What a maroon. I hate the family thingies, too. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-7-surprise-enemy-visit/328191/35 "2005-10-28T20:10:12Z")
> [@Little Nemo](#): > > Actually this may be the first time it was physically likely. In most previous series, the two camps were widely seperated. In Guatemala, the two camps are almost [within sight](http://www.claycritters.com/map/survivor_11_map.htm) of each other. Where’d you get the cool map? Are there maps of all Survivors? ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-7-surprise-enemy-visit/328191/36 "2005-10-28T20:18:04Z")
> [@DeVena](#): > > OK just a second. \*\*rockle \*\* is a lobster for Halloween? Would that make you a _Rock_le _Lobster_? Do you have a beehive hairdo and big claws and sing B-52 songs??? I guess it _would_ make me a **rockle** -obster, all thought I hadn’t thought of that. And I don’t have a beehive because I’m hairstylistically impaired, so I can’t make my head go like that. But I do have little pigtail puffs and this cool foam hat that I got from Red Lobster just for asking, plus I wore a shawl made from craft-store fishing net, and claws made from oven mitts. And I handed out popcorn to the judges of the company decorating contest, because when else are you going to get popcorn from a lobster? Oh, and I’m always singing B-52’s songs, plus today I was also singing “Birdhouse in Your Soul,” because why the hell not? It’s pretty hysterical, actually. There are pictures, so I hope no one was counting on me to run for public office. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-7-surprise-enemy-visit/328191/37 "2005-10-28T20:29:10Z")
> [@](#): > > Where’d you get the cool map? Are there maps of all Survivors? Someone put up maps of all the series locations online. The main Survivor article at Wikipedia had links to all of them. Unfortunately, whoever had the maps up changed all the URLs except the Guatemala one so I no longer know if the others are online or where they’re at. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-7-surprise-enemy-visit/328191/38 "2005-10-28T21:00:58Z")
Two things: Gary: “Amy can look for me all she wants, she’ll never find me, I’m not using my real name! She could search for years!” Dude, think about what you just said. You’re on a show. Bobby Jon: “I just want to make it to the jury, that would be a life-long dream come true!” Wow. You really did just fall off the turnip truck, didn’t you? ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2005, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-7-surprise-enemy-visit/328191/39 "2005-10-29T01:57:05Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > Where’d you get the cool map? Are there maps of all Survivors? The thing I love about that map is the location of the Loser’s Lodge: “El Retiro Eco-Lodge and Serpentarium.” When someone is voted off, Jeff should announce, “You’re off to the Serpentarium!” ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2005, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-7-surprise-enemy-visit/328191/40 "2005-10-29T04:30:40Z")
One thing I learned form the maps is that on Survivor Vanuatu the two camps (Lopevi and Yasur) were only about a kilometer apart and there was a road running between them. Makes you wonder if they were originally hoping for some midnight rendezvous between the boys and the girls. But then they went and stuck a security camp between them. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-7-surprise-enemy-visit/328191.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-7-surprise-enemy-visit/328191.md?page=3)