# Survivor: Guatemala Ep. 7 - "Surprise Enemy Visit" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 27, 2005, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-7-surprise-enemy-visit/328191 "2005-10-27T19:35:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2005, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-7-surprise-enemy-visit/328191/41 "2005-10-29T04:47:51Z")
> [@Little Nemo](#): > > One thing I learned form the maps is that on Survivor Vanuatu the two camps (Lopevi and Yasur) were only about a kilometer apart and there was a road running between them. Makes you wonder if they were originally hoping for some midnight rendezvous between the boys and the girls. But then they went and stuck a security camp between them. They were probably afraid Ami was going to snap and try to do some extracurricular voting off of the men. With rocks. Sharp ones. ---
**Author:** ![want2know](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/50afbb/32.png) [@want2know](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/want2know)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2005, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-7-surprise-enemy-visit/328191/42 "2005-10-31T01:58:06Z")
BTW, where are **middleman**'s weekly ratings? I’m jonesing here! ---
**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2005, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-7-surprise-enemy-visit/328191/43 "2005-10-31T02:41:45Z")
Sorry for the delay. I have been out of town at a cousin’s wedding and I didn’t get to see the episode until tonight. And we finally get to the merge. That is when the game really gets good….even in a weak season like Guatemala. And so, the less anticipated, highly derivative **RICH RANKINGS!** (N or Y for Tribe (Nakum or Yaxha) and Last Week’s Ranking in Parentheses). **FORGOT TO FILE A 1040** - I guess you couldn’t outwit everyone! **Jim** , **Morgan** , **Brianna** , **Brooke** , **Blake** , **Brian** , **Margaret** - These guys will miss an interesting merge. I think some of the original alliances may be complicated by good post-shuffle camaraderie. _Amy_- She should have played up the fact that a gimpy, middle aged woman is no threat in individual challenges. **JUDD’S CATEGORY** - You’re Judd. **Judd** - (N/Judd)- I’m pretty sure he’s still Judd. And by the looks of it, next week he continues being Judd. **EATING BEEF JERKY** - You’re still playing, but you’re praying for a tribe scramble! **Bobby Jon** - (Y/Mohawk)- This week was a rehearsal, but I think post-merge is when the “You’ve Had Your Shot” syndrome goes live. Plus, may I add that Bobby Jon’s flip into the mat during the reward challenge was like sliding into home after hitting a homerun. What a freak! **Stephenie** - (N/Mohawk)- Ditto for Steph. Besides, who likes her? Bobby Jon is at least liked by his tribe. **WHO SAID ANYTHING ABOUT A MERGE?** - **Jamie** - (N/Mohawk)- The Mr. Surly act doesn’t help you. You’re still strong, but boo-hoo, tittie baby. Plus, you seem to have hitched your wagon to the star that is…. JUDD. **HEY! LOOK AT HIS MOHAWK** -You might make the merge, but you’re grimacing from the jury row! **Cindy-** - (N/Jerky)- Making the merge upgrades Cindy considerably. She has no real attachment, so she can leech off another alliance to give them one more member. **LOOKING FOR A BIG TOM TO ENGLISH DICTIONARY** - Big Tom has spent more combined days on the show than anyone. But he didn’t quite grab the brass ring. **Brandon** - (Y/Mohawk)- A guest commentary from Mrs. Middleman for Brandon: “_When Brandon said that this game was racking his brain? Probably not too difficult to rack……”_ **Lydia** - (N/Tom)- I predict a second place finish for Lydia. **Rafe** - (N/Tom)- Rafe is coming in 5th. Aka, the nice guy spot. **ARE YOU A RAT OR A SNAKE?** - Reserved for a MAXIMUM of two players. You have to be in the driver’s seat for this spot. **Gary** - (Y/Rat)- Even I’m starting to believe he wasn’t an NFL-QB. Though he is in the Rat/Snake, I think he needs to take out Danni to make the final two. **Danni** - (Y/Rat)- In my view, she is in a league of her own. She is in with of the boys and has the physical skills to compete in the individuals. I think she is taking the million dollars. Merge Predictions: Last to Not Make the Jury: Bobby Jon Final Four: 4. Brandon 3. Gary Danni over Lydia ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2005, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-7-surprise-enemy-visit/328191/44 "2005-10-31T05:24:36Z")
I agree that Bobby Jon may be skipping jury duty. He’s weak in terms of allies, the most likely to suffer from “strong teammate\>strong competition” backlash, and he’s got the “you had your chance” hook for other people to use against him. ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2005, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-7-surprise-enemy-visit/328191/45 "2005-10-31T12:52:33Z")
> [@middleman](#): > > Final Four: > 4. Brandon > 3. Gary > Danni over Lydia If this happens I will gouge my own eyes out. Seriously. The only possible worse outcome this season would be Steph vs. Danni in F2, which would case my poor little head to literally explode. Like, BOOM, and then there’s blood and brains and feathers everywhere, like when that guy from the Mets hit that bird with a ball that one time. In that case, would you guys please send yellow roses to my funeral? ---
**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2005, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-7-surprise-enemy-visit/328191/46 "2005-10-31T12:57:25Z")
The howler monkey will be there to sing “Amazing Grace” and we will have a Twenty-One WALLLLLLT salute! ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2005, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-7-surprise-enemy-visit/328191/47 "2005-10-31T18:11:58Z")
> [@middleman](#): > > The howler monkey will be there to sing “Amazing Grace” and we will have a Twenty-One WALLLLLLT salute! This is exactly why you guys are the best. Can you see if you can get Ian to say a few words? (Double Bonus Afterlife Points if you can get him to cry, although it doesn’t appear to be that difficult.) And maybe get Phil Keoghan to show up? ---
**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2005, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-7-surprise-enemy-visit/328191/48 "2005-10-31T18:17:02Z")
I will happily (or not really _happily_, 'cause you’re dead, but reverently, at least) take part in the 21-WAAAAAAAAAAALT-Salute, and comfort Ian when it’s over. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![The\_Big\_Cheese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8baadc/32.png) [@The\_Big\_Cheese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Big_Cheese)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2005, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-7-surprise-enemy-visit/328191/49 "2005-10-31T18:28:31Z")
I understand most of this, but I don’t get the ‘Walt’ reference…help? ---
**Author:** ![BiblioCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BiblioCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BiblioCat)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2005, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-7-surprise-enemy-visit/328191/50 "2005-10-31T19:27:27Z")
> [@rockle](#): > > And maybe get Phil Keoghan to show up? “ **rockle** , I’m sorry to tell you that you’ve been eliminated from the Human Race.” 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2005, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-7-surprise-enemy-visit/328191/51 "2005-10-31T19:47:24Z")
> [@The Big Cheese](#): > > I understand most of this, but I don’t get the ‘Walt’ reference…help? It’s a _Lost_ reference. Michael’s son Walt has been kidnapped by murderous savages with guns, and his method of searching for his son is to go crashing through the jungle yelling “WAAAAALLLLLT!” at the top of his lungs. We’re all hoping for a Firefly moment sometime soon. “Walt, say goodbye to your daddy.” ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2005, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-7-surprise-enemy-visit/328191/52 "2005-10-31T20:23:01Z")
> [@BiblioCat](#): > > “ **rockle** , I’m sorry to tell you that you’ve been eliminated from the Human Race.” > > 😉 _Sweeeeeeeeet!_ And **Draelin**? If you have your way with my Ian, I will haunt your ass _forever_. Consider yourself warned. ---
**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2005, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-7-surprise-enemy-visit/328191/53 "2005-10-31T20:43:38Z")
> [@rockle](#): > > If you have your way with my Ian, I will haunt your ass _forever_. Consider yourself warned. I just might be willing to take that risk. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2005, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-7-surprise-enemy-visit/328191/54 "2005-10-31T21:57:21Z")
> [@Draelin](#): > > I just might be willing to take that risk. 😃 You might wanna rethink that. rockle is kinda scary. ---
**Author:** ![want2know](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/50afbb/32.png) [@want2know](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/want2know)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2005, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-7-surprise-enemy-visit/328191/55 "2005-10-31T23:08:45Z")
> [@rockle](#): > > Holy carp! His little Halloween costume is ADORABLE! … Sigh … I miss him _so_ much. _Call me, Ian!_ > > GASP … You don’t suppose there’s any chance that _Ian_ will be the new host when Probsty leaves, do you? Dare I even think it? Oh my Og, could you imagine the horror? :eek: **Ian** : “Gee, you all look a little tired tonight. How about we skip TC and all get a good night’s sleep?” Or: “Well, this is your tribe’s 6th straight challenge victory, but I’m going to award it to the other tribe because it’s the fair thing to do.” 😃 ---
**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2005, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-7-surprise-enemy-visit/328191/56 "2005-10-31T23:10:13Z")
> [@BiblioCat](#): > > “ **rockle** , I’m sorry to tell you that you’ve been eliminated from the Human Race.” > > 😉 “DAMN! I had hoped this was a non-elimination funeral!” ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2005, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-7-surprise-enemy-visit/328191/57 "2005-11-01T00:35:14Z")
> [@JSexton](#): > > You might wanna rethink that. rockle is kinda scary. Oh, come on, now! I’m a 31-year-old semi-genius who _dressed as a friggin’ lobster for Halloween_ - how scary can I be? Yes, mistakes _have_ been made, but _still._ There are pictures. I’m not THAT scary. Well, OK, but only sometimes. > [@want2know](#): > > “Well, this is your tribe’s 6th straight challenge victory, but I’m going to award it to the other tribe because it’s the fair thing to do.” He wouldn’t do that, seeing as how he was on the Palau tribe that didn’t suck like a Dyson. As host, he wouldn’t make anybody cry, but nobody would make him cry, either, so it could work. > [@middleman](#): > > “DAMN! I had hoped this was a non-elimination funeral!” I hope when you say that you’re wearing a Hawaiian-print bathing suit, flip-flops, a fur hat with earflaps, Freakie Freezies, and a bright yellow raincoat. Because otherwise it really wouldn’t make any sense. Also … just want you all to know that I would like Burton, Gregg, Brady, Ryan O., Ethan, and Probst to be my pallbearers. And no matter what my husband says, I want to be buried in my “My Ox Is BROKEN!” T-shirt and my Chuck Taylor Converse All-Stars. ---
**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2005, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-7-surprise-enemy-visit/328191/58 "2005-11-01T02:36:33Z")
> [@rockle](#): > > I hope when you say that you’re wearing a Hawaiian-print bathing suit, flip-flops, a fur hat with earflaps, Freakie Freezies, and a bright yellow raincoat. Because otherwise it really wouldn’t make any sense. > > Also … just want you all to know that I would like Burton, Gregg, Brady, Ryan O., Ethan, and Probst to be my pallbearers. And no matter what my husband says, I want to be buried in my “My Ox Is BROKEN!” T-shirt and my Chuck Taylor Converse All-Stars. I promise. ---
**Author:** ![Mama\_Tiger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6de8d8/32.png) [@Mama\_Tiger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mama_Tiger)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2005, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-7-surprise-enemy-visit/328191/59 "2005-11-01T04:07:41Z")
> [@The Big Cheese](#): > > I understand most of this, but I don’t get the ‘Walt’ reference…help? It’s a crossover reference to another show, Lost, in which Walt’s dad, Michael, has been wandering the jungle searching for his abducted son, yelling out, WAAAAAALT! ---
**Author:** ![Mama\_Tiger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6de8d8/32.png) [@Mama\_Tiger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mama_Tiger)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2005, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-7-surprise-enemy-visit/328191/60 "2005-11-01T04:12:22Z")
Aaaand next time it would help to actually read page 2 of the thread before replying about 12 hours late. :smack: [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-7-surprise-enemy-visit/328191.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-ep-7-surprise-enemy-visit/328191.md?page=4)