# Survivor: Guatemala--Episode 1 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 16, 2005, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-episode-1/321888 "2005-09-16T00:27:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2005, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-episode-1/321888/61 "2005-09-16T20:16:37Z")
> [@Ethilrist](#): > > Actually, if you read the fishmonger’s bio, she’s middle management for a (probably small) company that sells fish… it doesn’t necessarily mean she’s out on the docks, up to her elbows in a barrel of haddock… …tossing fish around like a really stupid office morale program… ---
**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2005, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-episode-1/321888/62 "2005-09-16T20:18:07Z")
Yes. But to me, she will be known as\*\* Lydia (Lynda) the Fishmonger!\*\* ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2005, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-episode-1/321888/63 "2005-09-16T20:22:05Z")
> [@Ethilrist](#): > > Actually, if you read the fishmonger’s bio, she’s middle management for a (probably small) company that sells fish… it doesn’t necessarily mean she’s out on the docks, up to her elbows in a barrel of haddock… Spoilsport. 😛 I’m with **Draelin** on this one (not that I am not usually anyway): (anything)-_monger_ is cool. I’m going to start calling myself a _contractmonger_ and see if I can negotiate myself a raise. Or at least a new adding machine. **middleman** ’s nickname “Lydia (Lynda) the Fishmonger” makes her sound like a character in either a Monty Python sketch or a Terry Gilliam movie. Either way, cool. ---
**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2005, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-episode-1/321888/64 "2005-09-16T20:22:50Z")
> [@Draelin](#): > > There aren’t nearly enough professions out there that include the suffix _-monger_. So true. We should change that: Attorney- Lawmonger Internal Medicine- Gutmonger Waste Water Systems- Shitmonger Porn Director- Dongmonger You’re on to something there. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2005, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-episode-1/321888/65 "2005-09-16T20:31:53Z")
Router salesman: Pingmonger. Video game salesman: Pongmonger. Guy who does both: Pingpongmonger. ---
**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2005, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-episode-1/321888/66 "2005-09-16T20:34:54Z")
Dongmonger = coffee spit onto my monitor, thank you. ---
**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2005, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-episode-1/321888/67 "2005-09-16T20:42:11Z")
> [@Draelin](#): > > Dongmonger = coffee spit onto my monitor, thank you. If only I had made it the “fluffer” instead of the director… :smack: ---
**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2005, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-episode-1/321888/68 "2005-09-16T21:08:02Z")
Does Burnett have any clue how he’s screwed up “Survivor” office pools by including Steph and Bobby Jon in the mix?? When Probst announced they’d be getting help, I confess I thought I’d see two natives walking down. You know, to prevent the clueless wonders from killing themselves by walking around the jungle without shoes on, wade around in croc infested water, blah blah. And I thought, “Ooh, how interesting.” Imagine how disappointed I was to see Stephenie and Bobby Jon from last season show up. I don’t like the idea for the same reason that I didn’t like All Stars. They already had their shot at a million… and the producers are playing favorites. If Tom had lost last year, I have no doubt he’d have been back. Let’s not turn this into a popularity contest any more than it already is. I had to pick four Survivors for my office pool, who I thought were going to go the farthest. The only man I picked was the Farmer. He looked strong and I thought he might have an “Aw, gosh” part to his personality that would help him win the political game. I think I was wrong. I also picked Dani, but can’t remember the other two. Which tribe ate the fruit before the left? I was wondering if that was what was making them all sick. Montezuma’s revenge kinda thing. Which, of course, would mean they’d be shitting, too. Gosh, I hope Survivor doesn’t resort to showing them squirting. :eek: Of course, the women would have been cramping up, too… ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2005, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-episode-1/321888/69 "2005-09-16T22:07:20Z")
Now I’m trying to figure out how to describe my job in the “-monger” format. Labmonger? DNAmonger? Cancermonger? PCRmonger? Dammit, it just doesn’t work. I WANNA MONG!!! ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2005, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-episode-1/321888/70 "2005-09-16T23:20:03Z")
> [@Greywolf73](#): > > About the puking: I’ve spent more time that I’d care to admit watching reality shows of the Real World and Real World/Road Rules Challenges variety, and it does seem that filming someone puking up liquid is way less offensive than food. If someone is puking up food, you usually only get the sound effects and post-puke shots. You too, eh? I’m a sucker for any reality competition show where they do utterly stupid and pointless obstacle-course type challenges. So yes, I watch Survivor, the Real World/Road Rules challenges, and even that insufferably stupid Battle of the Network Reality Stars. I mention the last only because I wanted to rave at how _fine_ Ryan Star’s ass looks in her little bikini. Oh My! The puking last night was tame compared to one time on the Real World / Road Rules challenge. Picture this: A table with a giant bowl full of a few gallons of ice cream. (Two of them, one for each team.) Everyone on the team must pitch in to eat all the ice cream; first team finished wins. Can’t use your hands. So, about two gallons in, people start involuntarily vomiting the ice cream _directly into the ice cream bowl they’re eating from_. Pretty much everyone is doing this, but they all soldier on and keep eating. Post-challenge interviews are unanimous: “That was by far the most disgusting thing I’ve ever done.” The camera showed the puking in all its technicolor glory. Truly vile. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2005, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-episode-1/321888/71 "2005-09-17T01:45:11Z")
> [@Smeghead](#): > > Now I’m trying to figure out how to describe my job in the “-monger” format. Labmonger? DNAmonger? Cancermonger? PCRmonger? > > Dammit, it just doesn’t work. I WANNA MONG!!! I’m definitely a datamonger. I’m gonna have new business cards made. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2005, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-episode-1/321888/72 "2005-09-17T03:39:59Z")
I’m thinking about opening a drug paraphenalia store now just so I can be a bongmonger. > [@](#): > > Aren’t opening episodes usually 2 hours? They’ve always been one hour that I recall. ---
**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2005, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-episode-1/321888/73 "2005-09-17T04:30:17Z")
> [@Smeghead](#): > > Now I’m trying to figure out how to describe my job in the “-monger” format. Labmonger? DNAmonger? Cancermonger? PCRmonger? My sister-in-law (who now has a Ph.D in Genetic Epidemiology, whatever that actually means) spent a couple years working with lab rats in some sort of cancer research. Many of the rats died. I called her The Merchant of Death. I think that’s more fun than being a -monger, any day. Can you use that? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![mack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mack)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2005, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-episode-1/321888/74 "2005-09-17T12:34:46Z")
> [@Nutty Bunny](#): > > That 11-mile hike was brutal, but when Bobby John’s eyes were rolling back in his head, I was angry that an on-set doctor wasn’t there and taking immediate action. Everybody looked pretty spry for the challenge. I think they got fixed up somewhere along the line. I’ve puked from overexertion, but after I topped a big hill on my bike or something like that - not like the guys on the show who seemed to puking at random. I’ve also been pretty dehydrated, and while I was disoriented and felt like shit, puking wasn’t on the menu. So while dehydration was a result of the puking, it may not have been the cause. I agree with others that maybe something else was afoot. ---
**Author:** ![BiblioCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BiblioCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BiblioCat)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2005, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-episode-1/321888/75 "2005-09-17T12:45:11Z")
> [@Smeghead](#): > > Now I’m trying to figure out how to describe my job in the “-monger” format. I guess I’d be a Kidmonger, since I teach preschool. ---
**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2005, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-episode-1/321888/76 "2005-09-17T13:06:04Z")
Woot! The Rich Rankings are back! > [@rockle](#): > > [CBS.com](http://CBS.com) is going to be running a [blog](http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor11/show/ep01/strikeback.php) of previous contestants’ comments on Guatemala. Thanks for the link. I think I’ll be reading that avidly through the season. It was interesting to see what the former players thought. It was funny to see that these people who were actually in it have the same sorts of questions and opinions that we have. Scout made a really interesting observation–that when you’re in the game, you tend to want to keep people who make you feel secure. She says that’s one thing that kept Tom in the game in Palau, and one reason that she thinks Margaret has a good chance this season. Of all the various criteria for keeping/booting that we’ve discussed, I don’t think we’ve really touched on feelings of personal security, both physical and emotional. Sure, we’ve talked about who was a good provider, but that’s a little different. Anyway, analyzing some of the previous seasons in light of that criterion might be enlightening. ---
**Author:** ![annieclaus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b5a626/32.png) [@annieclaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/annieclaus)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2005, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-episode-1/321888/77 "2005-09-17T14:15:21Z")
> [@Draelin](#): > > There aren’t nearly enough professions out there that include the suffix _-monger_. My personal favorite is RUMOR-monger. ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2005, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-episode-1/321888/78 "2005-09-17T15:35:19Z")
I’ve gotten dehydrated before, and I definitely felt nauseous. When Bobby Jon fell over and described himself as feeling very cold, I knew what he was going through. It is one of the worst feelings you can experience. I liked that they had a challenge right away. There’s one girl–I think she’s on Stephanie’s team–that I don’t think I’m going to like very much. Her behavior reminded me of Holly from last year’s Big Brother. ---
**Author:** ![Greywolf73](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d9b06d/32.png) [@Greywolf73](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Greywolf73)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2005, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-episode-1/321888/79 "2005-09-17T16:59:54Z")
> [@Draelin](#): > > Dongmonger = coffee spit onto my monitor, thank you. And that would make you the Spitmonger. 😃 And thanks, **EllisDee** , I had blanked that ice cream episode of RR/RR Challenge out of my mind til I read your post. Almost as bad as that was the episode of the Amazing Race in which the teams had to eat those gigantic bowls of spicy soup and it was pretty much: Gulp soup, puke into bucket, gulp soup, try not to listen to the other teams puking, puke in bucket, gulp soup, cry, gulp soup, puke… Blaarrgh. Why is that I insist on opening this thread each time I’m eating lunch? ---
**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2005, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-episode-1/321888/80 "2005-09-17T17:09:10Z")
I just have to once again state how disappointed I am that we never got to see too much of Rob C. in All-Stars–for the following reason: > [@Rob](#): > > Anyway, I’m really looking forward to blogging about the show with you guys this season. I’m just hoping that Katie won’t try to talk Ian into quitting before we’re done 😉 We’ll try to leave the Katie-hate out of this season, but I just couldn’t pass that one up. 🙂 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-episode-1/321888.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-guatemala-episode-1/321888.md?page=5)