# Survivor II - What did they have against Debb?

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [January 29, 2001, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-ii-what-did-they-have-against-debb/52221 "2001-01-29T05:23:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![handy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5a626/32.png) [@handy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handy)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2001, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-ii-what-did-they-have-against-debb/52221/161 "2001-02-23T16:31:21Z")

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Well, I read the Australian SPCA kinda people are investigating that pig thing.

If you Put some rocks around the fire & at night put the rocks near your feet youll be warm for quite some time. Of course, they didn’t think of that yet.

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**Author:** ![Diane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2acd7d/32.png) [@Diane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diane)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2001, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-ii-what-did-they-have-against-debb/52221/162 "2001-02-23T16:32:42Z")

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handy, you’re kidding, right?

That is a freakin’ stuffed TOY! :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Kepi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kepi/32/7251_2.png) [@Kepi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kepi)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2001, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-ii-what-did-they-have-against-debb/52221/163 "2001-02-23T17:53:36Z")

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I think I would have voted off Jeff. With him gone the the Jeff/Alicia alliance would be busted without losing Alicia’s strength. I mean, what does Jeff really contribute other than bitching, critcizing, and stirring up trouble? It might also cause Alicia to tone down her attitude a bit since her best ally would be gone. And Kimmi would have been booted later anyway.

As for the “accident” in next week’s episode, is it possible that the accident didn’t happen to one of the contestants, but to one of the crew members instead? From the preview, this is what we know:

[li]a male voice is heard yelling, but is he in pain or is he responding to something else[/li][li]an accident of some sort has occurred[/li][li]Rodger, Elizabeth, and Jeff are shown reacting to the accident[/li][li]Michael, Alicia, and Nick are not shown[/li][li]a helicopter is seen taking off[/li][li]Ogakor reads a note that an accident has occurred in the Kucha **camp** , not in the Kucha **tribe** (I’m not certain that’s what I heard. Can someone with a tape verify that?)[/li]  
Of course, I’m sure the producers wouldn’t try to manipulate the audience and lead us astray, would they? :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![c\_goat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@c\_goat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/c_goat)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2001, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-ii-what-did-they-have-against-debb/52221/164 "2001-02-23T17:58:49Z")

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> \*Originally posted by spoke- \*  
> **Is it just me, or did Michael, Elisabeth and Rodger have a strategy lapse? Why did they all vote for Kimmi**

Well, after the next tribal council, the teams merge (according to CBS site). So if it ends up being Kucha, they can always vote Jeff out for their own survival. They probably convinced Kimmi to vote for Jeff just in case they need to use that. Or in case they need to convince Jeff to vote against either Alicia or Nick. I think it was brilliant, since they’re in charge of who goes next.

Incidentally, if Kucha is next to lose a member, it’s a dead 5-5 tie, so you might not have one tribe allying against the other (since they don’t know the other tribe’s prior voting results). Though they might just take a chance on it and hope they can guess who was previously voted for. I think Kucha would have a better chance at getting it right though.

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**Author:** ![handy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5a626/32.png) [@handy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handy)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2001, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-ii-what-did-they-have-against-debb/52221/165 "2001-02-24T00:56:26Z")

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In Survivor 1 they dropped in snakes just for effect. HOwever, Fenris, alligator meat tastes like chicken, its actually pretty tasty. pLus you can make shoes later.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2001, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-ii-what-did-they-have-against-debb/52221/166 "2001-02-24T01:53:20Z")

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> alligator meat tastes like chicken

Actually, I think they’re crocodiles.

I’ve always thought alligator tastes like pork. Could be the way it’s prepared though.

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**Author:** ![Flymaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c4cdca/32.png) [@Flymaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flymaster)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2001, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-ii-what-did-they-have-against-debb/52221/167 "2001-02-24T02:28:51Z")

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> \*Originally posted by handy \*  
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> In Survivor 1 they dropped in snakes just for effect. HOwever, Fenris, alligator meat tastes like chicken, its actually pretty tasty. pLus you can make shoes later. \*\*

However, as someone ( **DavidB**?) said earlier in the thread, they can’t kill native animals. So crocs are out.

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**Author:** ![Jeannie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e480ec/32.png) [@Jeannie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jeannie)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2001, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-ii-what-did-they-have-against-debb/52221/168 "2001-02-24T02:50:26Z")

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I think I read somewhere (possibly [SurvivorSucks.com](http://SurvivorSucks.com)) that Michael burned his hands. I seem to remember someone saying that in a picture, he had both of his hands bandaged. Maybe that’s the accident that happens next week?

If I find a cite while I’m on [SS.com](http://SS.com), I’ll post it here.

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2001, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-ii-what-did-they-have-against-debb/52221/169 "2001-02-24T13:26:49Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Johnny L.A. \*  
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> > [@](#):
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> > alligator meat tastes like chicken
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> Actually, I think they’re crocodiles.
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> I’ve always thought alligator tastes like pork. Could be the way it’s prepared though.  
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Hmmm…to me, alligator has the flavor of shrimp, but the texture of chicken. It’s good eating, though!

Fenris

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2001, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-ii-what-did-they-have-against-debb/52221/170 "2001-02-24T14:38:18Z")

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Alligator. The _other_ other white meat.

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**Author:** ![handy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5a626/32.png) [@handy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handy)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2001, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-ii-what-did-they-have-against-debb/52221/171 "2001-02-24T16:05:48Z")

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It’s no joke Diane:  
"02/23/01 - (AAP) The RSPCA and a  
Queensland government agency are  
investigating complaints from the United  
States over the killing of a feral pig in the hit  
reality television program Survivor II. "

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**Author:** ![The\_Mermaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@The\_Mermaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Mermaid)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2001, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-ii-what-did-they-have-against-debb/52221/172 "2001-02-24T16:32:47Z")

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Nope, haven’t eaten alligator \* yet\* but if it tastes anything like turtle, I’d be first in line. Yummmm.

I think turtle tastes a lot like frog legs but the texture is more like chicken. Mean little bastards to kill and clean though. I get the feeling that their motto is " Ok if you’re gonna eat me, I’m not gonna make it easy for ya. Oh and I’ll be taking a few of your fingers with me too."

Like I said they are mean little bastards.

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**Author:** ![randomlyblanks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/71c47a/32.png) [@randomlyblanks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randomlyblanks)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2001, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-ii-what-did-they-have-against-debb/52221/173 "2001-02-24T18:57:16Z")

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From the CBS Website:

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> [ul]When the unthinkable happens at Kucha, the tribes realize that Survivor is not just a game.  
> Ogakor is still one person short of Kucha. Will Ogakor win the much-needed immunity idol?[/ul]

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**Author:** ![handy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5a626/32.png) [@handy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handy)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2001, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-ii-what-did-they-have-against-debb/52221/174 "2001-02-25T01:39:24Z")

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Sure I ate alligator nuggets. A restaurant right next door had those right here in California. My friend who is a vegetarian ate them too…

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**Author:** ![Major\_Feelgud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3be4f8/32.png) [@Major\_Feelgud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Major_Feelgud)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2001, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-ii-what-did-they-have-against-debb/52221/175 "2001-02-25T02:34:11Z")

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There is some site which shows a supposedly genuine newspaper article which says that Alicia was bitten by a croc because she was menstruating and in the water and the blood attracted a croc. The site could be a CBS plant though.

Killer Mike did burn his hands, but it may not be related to this incident.

Actually the secret of this show is not putting 16 good looking hunks and babes on the show as has been suggested so many times. It’s putting people you love to hate on the show. I found myself hooked because some of the people are so annoying that you want them to get kicked out.

Look where all the attention was last time, people that you love to hate! Look at whose getting the attention this time.

To answer the OP, Debb was kicked out because she didn’t have any person to person skills and was ugly.

Mitchell and Mad Dog were kicked out because they were physically weak. Kel was kicked out because he didn’t have any person to person skills either. Kimmi was kicked out because she was annoying and didn’t bathe.

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**Author:** ![Montfort](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Montfort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Montfort)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2001, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-ii-what-did-they-have-against-debb/52221/176 "2001-02-25T02:43:59Z")

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Okay, then why hasn’t Rodger gotten kicked out, since he’s old and ugly?

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**Author:** ![Major\_Feelgud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3be4f8/32.png) [@Major\_Feelgud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Major_Feelgud)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2001, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-ii-what-did-they-have-against-debb/52221/177 "2001-02-26T02:51:20Z")

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They hated Kimmi more.  
Rodger is unoffensive.  
Who says he’s ugly or old?  
He’s in an alliance with Elisabeth.

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