# Survivor May 6 2010 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 7, 2010, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-may-6-2010/538571 "2010-05-07T00:19:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-may-6-2010/538571/81 "2010-05-09T00:34:22Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Rupert almost seems like 2 people to me. Sometimes he’s very likeable, and other times he’s really annoying. It’s like he has 2 personalities, depending on the circumstances. Yeah, the circumstances are (a) Rupert gets his way, and (b) Rupert doesn’t get his way. ---
**Author:** ![BMada](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@BMada](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMada)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-may-6-2010/538571/82 "2010-05-09T02:07:54Z")
> [@singular1](#): > > Ohmigawd. I just read some transcribed bits from the online extras, and I am horrified even more than I was by the lunacy that is Russhole= > > [spoiler] from Danielle’s (or “Daniellie”, according to Russhole) final words: > “Russell is insane. I’ve never seen anyone so psychotic. You feel like you’re in prison when you’re around him, especially when you’re aligned with him. He stares at you all day long. He watches every single person, who they talk to, and then after they talk to them, he goes up to them and asks them what they talk about. He goes up to you and asks you what you talked about, just to make sure the stories match up. He does this non-stop. He doesn’t do any work around camp. He’s horrible, he doesn’t do anything in the challenges. He just sits there and stares at people to make sure they’re not trying to get him off or anyone in his alliance. Now he’s testing the people in his alliance. This is the second season in a row he’s playing and he wants it bad, he wants it really bad. He’ll do whatever he has to to get there. That might bite him in the ass at the end because I don’t know how many people are gonna vote for him.” > > Russell is completely delusional - here’s indisputable proof: > “Colby is the main guy in the love triangle with Danielle and Jerri. That’s a solid 3. Any time you have a solid 3 in this game, you gotta split it up immediately. When you see it coming you get rid of it before it hits you in the head. I believe he can also start winning individual immunity idols. He’s also not part of my alliance. But the main reason I wanna get rid of Colby is because of the love triangle I see going on. He’s flirting with Danielle, he’s flirting with Jerri. They’re starting to want to take him in. They’re starting to want to save him. They want to save Colby so they can have his vote. I don’t know what they plan on doing outside this game, but I think it’s illegal to be married to more than one woman. But that seems to be the route they’re trying to take. Maybe they can go to Utah or something. I think it’s legal there.” > > (cut) > > “I don’t know what it is about him. Is it his hat? I’ve got a hat. Is it he’s good looking? I thought I was good looking. All of a sudden he’s getting all the love out here. Where’s my love? They should fall in love with me because I’m so damn good at this game and I could bring 'em to the end. I don’t understand why people don’t attach to me. Parvati’s smart enough to attach to me. She knows how good I am. She knows I can take her all the way. I’ve been dragging her through the mud this entire time. I’m gonna take her to the final 3. Attach yourself to somebody who knows how to play the game, so they can protect you. Don’t attach yourself to someone who doesn’t even want to play the game, like Colby. He doesn’t even play the game. What’s he gonna do for you? Keep you warm at night. That’s all he can do for you. And I can do that for you.” > > My coworkers and I are all hoping for a repeat of the pathetic whimpering Russhole that can’t believe he didn’t win at the finale. If this is any indication of how he’s playing, our wishes may come true. > [/spoiler] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=\_yLYpeN3ZT4&playnext\_from=TL&videos=MGWTZSRqg5s](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yLYpeN3ZT4&playnext_from=TL&videos=MGWTZSRqg5s) is what’s in the spoilers. Russell has a huge ego, that’s his downfall, he’ll never win Survivor with his massive ego. Once he gets passed that he’ll know why he’s not as good as he thinks he is. ---
**Author:** ![singular1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ba9def/32.png) [@singular1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/singular1)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 11:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-may-6-2010/538571/83 "2010-05-09T11:14:22Z")
Movie wouldn’t play for me. What’s in it? ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-may-6-2010/538571/84 "2010-05-09T14:27:19Z")
> [@singular1](#): > > Movie wouldn’t play for me. What’s in it? Russell’s confessional a transcribed in the spoiler post that you posted. Starting "Colby is the main guy in the… " ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-may-6-2010/538571/85 "2010-05-09T16:34:23Z")
> [@BMada](#): > > if you think his move was the stupidest, wouldn’t Colby picking Tina as a final two person be even more dumb? He coulda won a million had he not chosen her as his competition. His reference to be the best you need to beat the best should be chalked up as dumb or dumber too. Maybe, but it might be more fair to say that it was naïve. It was only the second season, and I don’t think anybody correctly calculated the role of the spite vote yet. Tina won Australia 4-3, and at least one vote – Jerri’s – went to Tina because (paraphrasing) the fact that Tina could convince Colby to take her just proves that she’s a better manipulator than he was. Ian just outright _lost his mothertruckin’ mind_ out there. He quit an Immunity Challenge that he was most likely going to win and bowed out of the F2 to assuage his own guilt, or whatever. It was insanity, but that does not excuse stupidity. He gets a little credit because he was young and immature and trying to do what he thought was the right thing, but it was still _weapons-grade stupid._ > [@Ruffian](#): > > As far as Parvarti goes–we hate her in this house. Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaate her. Curiously, I was more vocal of my disdain for her initially; now hubby is the one saying “I won’t fucking watch the finale unless I know she won’t win it.” I’ve gained a little more respect for her the last few episodes, but hubby is bringing the “SHE SUCKS!” Why do we find her annoying as hell? To quote my hubby: “She’s cute, and she knows it, and that’s all she’s got in life.” Oh, I know, she’s savvy and smart too, not that it matters. She’s only savvy and smart to serve her own spoiled needs. She is like my miniature horse: She’s adorable, and people fawn all over her because of it–and she uses it to milk and manipulate every possible selfish gain she can grasp. Kind of how I feel as well, better articulated than my sad little “I have an irrational dislike for her whaawhaawhaaaaaa.” ---
**Author:** ![gonzoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a6a055/32.png) [@gonzoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzoron)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-may-6-2010/538571/86 "2010-05-10T18:43:41Z")
Just wanted to pop in and balance out the Russell-hate a bit. Every time Russell gets his evil little way, my wife and I cheer together. He is exactly as good as he thinks he is in manipulating people. Watch him plant “the Russell seed” in Tyson and snatch victory from certain defeat. Watch him stop an obvious Pagong-ing of the Villains by planting the same seed in Sandra and Candice. It’s a beautiful and bizarre thing, really. Watch him get Jerri to vote off Danielle with no reason at all! (“It’s not a threat, I’m telling you like it is. If you don’t vote her off, you’re next. Can’t tell you why.” WTF??? that worked?!?!) Whether that skill will win the game for him this time depends on if this group of very strategic, very backstabby players on the jury will be respect his skill, or become “bitter betties,” like the Samoa jury, to borrow a James-ism. I think his best bet right now is Jerri/Colby for his final three. He can really work the “outplay, outwit” angle with them. Sandra and/or Parv will be tough to beat since they’ve both been masterminds in their own ways. Rupert has the hero appeal without the defeatism of Colby, so he’s dangerous to take. **FloatyGimpy** had it right in that Candice would’ve been a better #3 for him, which he might have realized when he told everyone it was a mistake to vote her out. Mistake for him, really, is what he meant, not for the villains as a whole. I feel about Russell similar to what Probst said in his blog about Parvati. I don’t think I could be his friend, and he’d be tough to date… but he’s great fun to watch play this game. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-may-6-2010/538571/87 "2010-05-10T18:56:03Z")
I don’t think Colby’s move to take Tina to the finals was _dumb_, exactly. I think he knew what he was doing. But he really disliked Chef, and liked Tina, and placed friendship (or “integerity”) above winning $1M. I think he knew the risk and took it, and lost. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2010, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-may-6-2010/538571/88 "2010-05-11T12:42:56Z")
> [@BMada](#): > > You don’t toy around with HII or immunities as some kind of alliance maker, Yes you do, actually. Russell has been doing this to great effect two seasons running. If this is your only reason that JT’s move was dumb, that’s no case at all. ---
**Author:** ![FlightlessBird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/cdc98d/32.png) [@FlightlessBird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlightlessBird)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2010, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-may-6-2010/538571/89 "2010-05-11T18:22:17Z")
I’m on the same page as **gonzoron**. Russell is a horrible person, but plays this game so well. Right now, everyone wants to go against him in the final 3(are we sure it’s 3?). At the same time, I think everyone wants to hold onto the Heroes too, since there’s only 3 Heroes on the jury (JT, Amanda and Candice) They won’t garner too much sympathy. If Russell makes the final three, makes his pitch about beating the best and still loses, I think the game will remain unscathed. But if he wins, I predict the game lasts only 3 more seasons before it ends. The next season to be cast after this one will have everyone a backstabbing, lying, cheating, sumbitch. They’ll cause havok and scorch the earth whenever possible for no reason except to be unpredictable. Actually as I write this I think, that may be an interesting show to watch: “Survivor: Villains v Villainier villains”. I do hope Russell makes the final and gets his ass handed to him at the final jury. ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2010, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-may-6-2010/538571/90 "2010-05-11T18:38:16Z")
> [@gonzoron](#): > > I think his best bet right now is Jerri/Colby for his final three. He can really work the “outplay, outwit” angle with them. Sandra and/or Parv will be tough to beat since they’ve both been masterminds in their own ways. Rupert has the hero appeal without the defeatism of Colby, so he’s dangerous to take. **FloatyGimpy** had it right in that Candice would’ve been a better #3 for him, which he might have realized when he told everyone it was a mistake to vote her out. Mistake for him, really, is what he meant, not for the villains as a whole. This makes a lot of sense, but I’m hard-pressed to imagine how he can configure these as the final 3 without Parvati or Sandra throwing a wrench in the works. Either of those two will not go down without a fight, and while Jerri & Colby make pretty weak competition in a final 3 scenario, that also makes them less than surefire as allies up that point, too. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2010, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-may-6-2010/538571/91 "2010-05-11T19:25:23Z")
> [@](#): > > without Parvati or Sandra throwing a wrench in the works. Plus Sandra has the ACE up her sleeve. The Hidden Immunity Idol which no one else knows she has. ---
**Author:** ![BMada](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@BMada](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMada)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2010, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-may-6-2010/538571/92 "2010-05-11T23:05:43Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > Yes you do, actually. Russell has been doing this to great effect two seasons running. If this is your only reason that JT’s move was dumb, that’s no case at all. I love it how you leave the second part of the sentence in the quote out. JT used it to try and gain a person into his alliance of Heroes. That is dumb. Russell used his to deflect votes off of him by telling people he has it. Knowing where the votes were going, he gave it to HIS own alliance member Parv (twice) to save her which in turn him/his alliance. He used it to help his existing alliance gain strength. He even had it so he made a speech to garner favor with others to show that he’s “a man of his word” and grew more standing with Jerri and Coach. To put it in a similar situation as JT, Russell would have to have given Coach his HII to gain his favor. But he didn’t, he told him he had it, used it on Parv, gave a little speech and gained Coach’s favor. Erik did the exact same thing, believing in an alliance that wasn’t there to begin with, giving his immunity, and hoping beyond all hope that there will be an alliance afterwards, then paying the price. You do not give HII or immunity to another alliance to gain their favor. You use the HII or immunity to help your immediate and well-established alliance. Or you can use it like Yul and parlay it into power, but the rules changed and now you can only play HII before the votes are read. Yul had it so you can use it after the votes have been read. ---
**Author:** ![gonzoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a6a055/32.png) [@gonzoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzoron)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2010, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-may-6-2010/538571/93 "2010-05-12T14:35:22Z")
> [@ArchiveGuy](#): > > This makes a lot of sense, but I’m hard-pressed to imagine how he can configure these as the final 3 without Parvati or Sandra throwing a wrench in the works. Yeah, I have no idea how he can get there. I just think it’s his best shot. 🙂 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-may-6-2010/538571.md?page=4)