# Survivor Oct 31 - Not the only actor on this island **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 1, 2012, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-oct-31-not-the-only-actor-on-this-island/639588 "2012-11-01T16:57:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Just\_Ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Just\_Ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Ed)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-oct-31-not-the-only-actor-on-this-island/639588/21 "2012-11-02T13:34:43Z")
> [@Weedy](#): > > I get the impression that Jeff Kent is trying to apply some strategy he has learnt outside Survivor to Survivor. He just decided Penner was the enemy, and he would go after him. Like he needed to give himself some structure. > > The basic boot order now would be: > > Penner -\> Skupin -\> Kent -\> Carter -\> Denise -\> Malcolm -\> Lisa -\> Artis -\> Abi & Pete > > I cant see a lot Penner and Skupin can do, cos even if Malcolm wants to make a move, he is better off waiting to deal with Carter or Kent. Any bigger alliance is too unstable. Unstable? Abi is the epitome of unstable all by herself. I can’t see her making the final. If Denise and Malcolm get serious about their newfound alliance with Lisa, they can pull in Skupin and Penner (who now knows he was betrayed) and see what they can do. Or maybe Artis - though he doesn’t much like Skupin . . . > [@muldoonthief](#): > > The funny thing is that could easily have been the plot of a “Facts of Life” Episode. Blair, in an attempt to butter up her roommates, decides to do everyone’s laundry. She accidently finds Natalie’s birth control pills/Tootie’s crack pipe/Jo’s lesbian porn. She and her accidental victim agonize a bit over her discovery, and decide to come clean to Mrs. Garrett, and they all learn something at the end. I think I saw that one. Or maybe dreamed it (at least the part about the lesbian porn and Jo and Blair). What? ---
**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-oct-31-not-the-only-actor-on-this-island/639588/22 "2012-11-02T14:07:10Z")
I sort of glossed over the final strategy/alliance part befor tribal, but I thought it was strange that Abi Normal voted for Penner instead of RC. I know the plan was to split the vote so RC would go if Penner played the idol, but it seemed like Penner had a few more votes than RC. I guess I thought Abi Normal would vote for RC come hell or high water. ---
**Author:** ![ekweizn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7c8e57/32.png) [@ekweizn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekweizn)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-oct-31-not-the-only-actor-on-this-island/639588/23 "2012-11-02T14:12:42Z")
> [@kiz](#): > > There’s part of me that is dumbfounded that more people haven’t figured out her identity. I know part of it is generational, like Penner said, but still you’d think that more of them would have at least caught a Facts Of Life rerun, and Lisa basically looks the same, albeit older (if they hadn’t advertised her being on, I would’ve picked her out in an instant). > > OR…maybe more people do know her background but they’re keeping quiet about it? I tend to think that’s not the case, though. > > Jeff is easier. Unless you’re a huge baseball fan, you wouldn’t know who he is. I certainly didn’t. While I was aware pre-Survivor: Phillippines that there were characters named Blair, Tootie, Jo, and Mrs. Garrett on Facts of Life, I have never seen an episode and would never have picked out Lisa. I’m 28, which seems to be older than the remaining people who don’t recognize her. Jeff Kent is well-known to anyone to followed baseball casually in the mid-90’s to the mid-00’s. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-oct-31-not-the-only-actor-on-this-island/639588/24 "2012-11-02T14:17:22Z")
> [@Duke\_of\_Rat](#): > > I sort of glossed over the final strategy/alliance part befor tribal, but I thought it was strange that Abi Normal voted for Penner instead of RC. I know the plan was to split the vote so RC would go if Penner played the idol, but it seemed like Penner had a few more votes than RC. I guess I thought Abi Normal would vote for RC come hell or high water. She must have just followed the plan of splitting the votes, and was assigned Penner. Skupin was the extra vote for Penner - when they made the 4-4 plan, they just assumed Skupin would go along with whatever Penner & RC told him, based on the red team flipping him & RC. The final vote was: Penner: 5 - 4 of the plotters, plus Skupin RC: 4 - other 4 plotters Pete: 2 - Penner & RC, thinking they were following the red team + Skupin & RC flipped plan. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-oct-31-not-the-only-actor-on-this-island/639588/25 "2012-11-02T14:41:48Z")
As a male who is about the same age of Lisa, and who crushed on her a little, I would not have recognized her on the island. I would not have even recognize her if I had not been announced prior to the show. So if I am any indication, it is not automatic. Penner recognize her, partly IMO, because he is the business. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-oct-31-not-the-only-actor-on-this-island/639588/26 "2012-11-02T15:00:25Z")
Same here. What’s Penner’s business? ---
**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-oct-31-not-the-only-actor-on-this-island/639588/27 "2012-11-02T15:29:26Z")
He is an [actor](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0672103/). Hence the additional irony of the title. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-oct-31-not-the-only-actor-on-this-island/639588/28 "2012-11-02T15:32:26Z")
The only thing I’ve seen that he’s been in is _Coneheads_. I caught it once on TV. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-oct-31-not-the-only-actor-on-this-island/639588/29 "2012-11-02T16:16:48Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > The only thing I’ve seen that he’s been in is _Coneheads_. I caught it once on TV. He was also in Arrested Development once, which is another thing Dopers might have seen him in. It’s the one where everybody brings their daughter to work. And a Seinfeld episode. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-oct-31-not-the-only-actor-on-this-island/639588/30 "2012-11-02T16:22:37Z")
Never watched _Arrested Development_ or _Seinfeld_. ---
**Author:** ![fiddlesticks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddlesticks/32/18129_2.png) [@fiddlesticks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fiddlesticks)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-oct-31-not-the-only-actor-on-this-island/639588/31 "2012-11-02T17:28:26Z")
He also fills in for Alan Alda’s voiceover work. /joke ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-oct-31-not-the-only-actor-on-this-island/639588/32 "2012-11-02T17:40:26Z")
Anyone know what happened to Dalton Ross and his EW column and Q&A about Survivor for this week? ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Just\_Ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Ed)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-oct-31-not-the-only-actor-on-this-island/639588/33 "2012-11-02T17:59:25Z")
Recap is up, but it’s not Dalton Ross: > [@](#): > > [Bad news, folks! Your faithful Survivor recapper, Dalton Ross, is still without power as a result of Hurricane Sandy, and he’s unable to recap this week’s episode of Survivor.](http://tvrecaps.ew.com/recap/survivor-philippines-episode-7/) ---
**Author:** ![Moonlitherial](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4bbf92/32.png) [@Moonlitherial](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moonlitherial)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-oct-31-not-the-only-actor-on-this-island/639588/34 "2012-11-02T18:03:40Z")
> [@tsm](#): > > I’m pretty sure Probst said “first member of the jury.” The first ponderosa videos are up, RC is definitely the first member of the jury. Oddly now that I’ve watched the ponderosa vidoes I have started to hate RC. She has this laugh and in the interview videos it’s CONSTANT. I’m going to stick something sharp in my ear if it continues in next week’s videos. ---
**Author:** ![LH75](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lh75/32/4438_2.png) [@LH75](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LH75)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-oct-31-not-the-only-actor-on-this-island/639588/35 "2012-11-02T18:14:23Z")
My two daughters are the prime age to be fans of Lisa as Blair in The Facts of Life. I am pretty sure they never missed it. I recognized her voice right away. Now she looks like Blair’s mom. ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-oct-31-not-the-only-actor-on-this-island/639588/36 "2012-11-02T21:14:24Z")
> [@ekweizn](#): > > While I was aware pre-Survivor: Phillippines that there were characters named Blair, Tootie, Jo, and Mrs. Garrett on Facts of Life, I have never seen an episode and would never have picked out Lisa. I’m 28, which seems to be older than the remaining people who don’t recognize her. > > Jeff Kent is well-known to anyone to followed baseball casually in the mid-90’s to the mid-00’s. Yes, Jeff Kent was a star baseball player and recently retired, but he doesn’t look that much like he did in his playing days. Amongst other things, he’s not nearly as muscular. I actually wonder if there was some producer influence involved with that one woman recognizing him because her explanation sounded so sketchy(My boyfriend’s a baseball fan and I know who Jeff Kent is and that he’s worth 35 million dollars, as opposed to just saying "he’s loaded). It reminded me of Gary Hogeboom, who’d been retired for 15 years and looked nothing like he did as a player and yet Danni recognized him right off the bat. ---
**Author:** ![Disheavel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e274bd/32.png) [@Disheavel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Disheavel)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-oct-31-not-the-only-actor-on-this-island/639588/37 "2012-11-02T22:09:54Z")
> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#): > > It reminded me of Gary Hogeboom, who’d been retired for 15 years and looked nothing like he did as a player and yet Danni recognized him right off the bat. I’ve always been curious if there isn’t some prompting to get them to the correct conclusion. I think the lawsuits about fairness would be fastcoming if there was feeding of information, but if the question from the cameraman or producer in an interview was, “Does Lisa remind you of anyone? or Some of the other contestants have said that Lisa seems familiar, what do you think?” or “Wow, that Jeff sure can throw things fast! Have you noticed?” just to get the wheels turning. I think that could be enough to get people to figure it out, especially if they are already familiar with the field. Give just enough information to instill the question but enough plausible deniability if needed. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-oct-31-not-the-only-actor-on-this-island/639588/38 "2012-11-02T22:18:47Z")
Didn’t Danni Boatwright (recongnized Hogeboom) work in Sports before she went on Survivor? ---
**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2012, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-oct-31-not-the-only-actor-on-this-island/639588/39 "2012-11-03T00:29:48Z")
> [@notfrommensa](#): > > Didn’t Danni Boatwright (recongnized Hogeboom) work in Sports before she went on Survivor? Yes, but she would have been about 15 when he retired, and in single digits when he was a starter in the league. [Gary Hogeboom the football player](http://truedorktimes.com/survivor_guatemala/images/cast/preshow/garyh.jpg) [Gary Hogeboom on Survivor](http://www.bootsandsabers.com/images/uploads/hogeboom_i.jpg) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-oct-31-not-the-only-actor-on-this-island/639588.md?page=1)