# Survivor: One World February 29 2012 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 1, 2012, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-one-world-february-29-2012/614413 "2012-03-01T01:55:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Just\_Ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Just\_Ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Ed)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2012, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-one-world-february-29-2012/614413/21 "2012-03-01T21:43:44Z")
> [@FlightlessBird](#): > > Well it’s obvious to me that the ‘Muscle alliance’ originally had 5 members, and I’m not sure who flipped. Maybe Troyzan. Because if they went into game thinking they only needed 4 people to control the vote, they need to take an arithmetic lesson. I was hoping Troyzan would say to him, “It took you until the day we are going to Tribal Council to count to five?!” > > Unfortunately for them, as they start eliminating the strongest, they will probably lose their hold on the game. No, they (specifically Matt) were really that stupid and arrogant. Here’s Matt from the first episode, when the Douchebag Frat-boy Alliance was formed: > [@](#): > > Originally Spoken by **Head Douchebag Frat-boy** > The way _Survivor_ always works, initially, is that the strong stay, because they benefit the tribe, and the weak go. So I’m aligned with Big Mike, Jaybird, and Bill. I mean it’s an easy alliance, we’re the young fit guys, you know, we’re not going to get any Survivor points for that one. I don’t know what more you need to talk about, I mean, everybody else is screwed. I’m in the group, and I’m happy, and it’s the dominant alliance. _Clearly_. So I’m sitting pretty as far as I’m concerned. And yeah, they never did have the hold they thought they did on the game, and the tribe started eliminating the strongest first. Probably because Matt was being such a high-handed jackass about it. And every one of them flipped! What’s odd is they didn’t show Mike hold up his vote at the end, but they showed all 8 others, and Mike’s vote was one of the ones Jeff read (he voted for Bill, by process of elimination. Of the votes they showed, everyone but Matt voted for Matt, and Matt voted for Colton). > [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > Reading that, it’s as if you’re unzipping your pants. To be fair, while not an exact quote, **Johnny** was relaying the sentiment of the men on the show. > [@Billy\_Baroo](#): > > Why the hell aren’t they cohabitating? I can only conclude that the producers mandated they maintain separate camps. I don’t know if it was specifically shown on-air, but yes, the concept for the season is “One Beach, Two Camps” - as evidenced to the players by the separate flags, I guess. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2012, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-one-world-february-29-2012/614413/22 "2012-03-01T21:48:26Z")
When they lost the immunity challenge, Matt said something like “I’m kind of glad this happened. I’ve built up power in the tribe, and I’m looking forward to using it.” Oops. And his whole rooster talk made him sound like like a stupider, less entertaining, first-appearance Coach. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2012, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-one-world-february-29-2012/614413/23 "2012-03-01T22:32:06Z")
> [@Just\_Ed](#): > > To be fair, while not an exact quote, **Johnny** was relaying the sentiment of the men on the show. Yeah, I was going for the Hannibal Lecter thing. ---
**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2012, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-one-world-february-29-2012/614413/24 "2012-03-01T23:27:54Z")
I liked the look on Matt’s face when Colton didn’t play his HII. After he he said he’d be stupid not to. Wa…wait a minute! He didn’t play his idol, somebody’s calling my name, my torch is out. Cock-a-doodle-dooo!!! ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2012, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-one-world-february-29-2012/614413/25 "2012-03-02T02:20:14Z")
Three episodes in, and not a single word about honor or integrity. I know it’s not for everyone, but I am loving this season. A lot of big, different personalities. Also, I see Lief and the sushi chef going far. They are completely under the radar right now, but still smart and helpful. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Just\_Ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Ed)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2012, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-one-world-february-29-2012/614413/26 "2012-03-02T02:48:10Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > Three episodes in, and not a single word about honor or integrity. Yep - and “Troyzan” gleefully proclaiming, “It ain’t _Survivor_ unless you’re lyin’!” I think the absence of returning players is a benefit; these people may be fans of the game, but have no built-in “leaders” to direct them, so they’re playing on their own terms. Makes for a better (more chaotic) mix. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2012, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-one-world-february-29-2012/614413/27 "2012-03-02T03:30:33Z")
> [@Just\_Ed](#): > > What’s odd is they didn’t show Mike hold up his vote at the end, but they showed all 8 others, and Mike’s vote was one of the ones Jeff read (he voted for Bill, by process of elimination. Of the votes they showed, everyone but Matt voted for Matt, and Matt voted for Colton). They didn’t show two votes at the end. EDIT: I’m 99% sure. I rewound it to check because I was curious once Jeff said no. ---
**Author:** ![ekweizn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7c8e57/32.png) [@ekweizn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekweizn)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2012, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-one-world-february-29-2012/614413/28 "2012-03-02T04:22:30Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > No to the bolded. That would constitute assault, which is against the rules and will get you DQ’d immediately. The most important rule of Survivor is that the rules are enforced at the producers’ discretion (e.g. Naonka wasn’t DQ’ed for tackling an amputee at camp in Nicaragua). My guess is that the producers would have allowed a certain amount of physical contact. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Just\_Ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Ed)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2012, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-one-world-february-29-2012/614413/29 "2012-03-02T04:26:07Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > They didn’t show two votes at the end. > > EDIT: I’m 99% sure. I rewound it to check because I was curious once Jeff said no. They showed eight. For some reason they didn’t show “Tarzan” holding his up, but they did show he had written down Matt’s name (the camera changes to a view over his shoulder and you can see what he has written). The only one who wasn’t clear from that segment was Mike, but the only vote unaccounted for was the one for Bill that Jeff actually read. You can see the rundown at the Survivor [Wiki](http://survivor.wikia.com/wiki/Survivor:_One_World#Episode_Guide). ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2012, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-one-world-february-29-2012/614413/30 "2012-03-02T04:41:31Z")
> [@Just\_Ed](#): > > they did show he had written down Matt’s name (the camera changes to a view over his shoulder and you can see what he has written) I thought the over-the-shoulder view only showed a single vertical line as he was starting to write. ---
**Author:** ![Dag\_Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@Dag\_Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dag_Otto)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2012, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-one-world-february-29-2012/614413/31 "2012-03-02T04:53:34Z")
> [@ekweizn](#): > > The most important rule of Survivor is that the rules are enforced at the producers’ discretion (e.g. Naonka wasn’t DQ’ed for tackling an amputee at camp in Nicaragua). My guess is that the producers would have allowed a certain amount of physical contact. I was thinking that the guys just getting between the women and the fire and just sort of walking into the gals to push them away would be OK. Of course, the gals might grab the guys and push back, and that might escalate from there. But I see nothing wrong with nudging them out of the camp. Might speed the process up if the guys were farting while doing it. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Just\_Ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Ed)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2012, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-one-world-february-29-2012/614413/32 "2012-03-02T04:53:59Z")
No, it clearly shows the whole name Matt, which is already written when the camera switches to the over-the-shoulder shot. “Tarzan” is actually in the process of re-capping the marker, and his hands partially obscure the paper, but it’s visible very briefly (and clearly in a digital frame-by-frame on a DVR). Edit: In response to **Ellis Dee**. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2012, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-one-world-february-29-2012/614413/33 "2012-03-02T05:27:04Z")
Thanks much. ---
**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2012, 11:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-one-world-february-29-2012/614413/34 "2012-03-02T11:22:53Z")
I wonder if it would be kosher to go and steal each other’s stuff while they’re at tribal? Obviously, they allow stealing to some degree because at the opening challenge, the boys stole the women’s hatchet, etc. If I were the women, I’d have stolen at least that back. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2012, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-one-world-february-29-2012/614413/35 "2012-03-02T13:48:53Z")
> [@PunditLisa](#): > > I wonder if it would be kosher to go and steal each other’s stuff while they’re at tribal? Obviously, they allow stealing to some degree because at the opening challenge, the boys stole the women’s hatchet, etc. If I were the women, I’d have stolen at least that back. Great question. Why haven’t they done this? ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Just\_Ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Ed)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2012, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-one-world-february-29-2012/614413/36 "2012-03-02T15:00:07Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Great question. Why haven’t they done this? That is a good question. Also - what happened to the chicken(s)? Last we saw, the women had two and the men wanted to barter for one, but the women didn’t want to deal. Seems like they have some bargaining chips now, so they should be looking to make some kind of arrangement for fire or shelter. ---
**Author:** ![singular1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ba9def/32.png) [@singular1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/singular1)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2012, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-one-world-february-29-2012/614413/37 "2012-03-02T17:38:59Z")
The women killed and cooked one chicken soon after catching it - the broken wrist girl was proud of herself for stepping up to be executioner. What’s their hurry!?! I guess they didn’t want to build a coop any more than shelter for firewood. ---
**Author:** ![Billy\_Baroo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/76d3ee/32.png) [@Billy\_Baroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Billy_Baroo)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2012, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-one-world-february-29-2012/614413/38 "2012-03-02T21:06:31Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > When they lost the immunity challenge, Matt said something like “I’m kind of glad this happened. I’ve built up power in the tribe, and I’m looking forward to using it.” Oops. Having watched this show for far too long, I knew he was doomed as soon as those words crossed his lips. Survivor loves to tell that story. They get to serve up a savory ladle of irony and schadenfreude stew with just one talking-head clip. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2012, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-one-world-february-29-2012/614413/39 "2012-03-02T21:10:59Z")
I’m just so glad that there is no Redemption Island and no returning players, just straight up survivor (except for the one world thing) and when you’re voted out you are gone. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Just\_Ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Ed)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2012, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-one-world-february-29-2012/614413/40 "2012-03-02T22:05:23Z")
> [@singular1](#): > > The women killed and cooked one chicken soon after catching it - the broken wrist girl was proud of herself for stepping up to be executioner. What’s their hurry!?! I guess they didn’t want to build a coop any more than shelter for firewood. Thanks. Must have missed that, but yeah, that was awfully quick - and kind of dumb. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-one-world-february-29-2012/614413.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-one-world-february-29-2012/614413.md?page=3)