# Survivor: One World March 7 2012

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 8, 2012, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-one-world-march-7-2012/615094 "2012-03-08T01:47:33Z")\
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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2012, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-one-world-march-7-2012/615094/21 "2012-03-08T14:03:51Z")

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[According to Jeff,](http://insidetv.ew.com/2012/03/08/jeff-probst-episode-4-survivor-one-world/) yes, it had to be unanimous.

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**Author:** ![The\_Controvert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dec6dc/32.png) [@The\_Controvert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Controvert)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2012, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-one-world-march-7-2012/615094/22 "2012-03-08T14:09:00Z")

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> [@FlightlessBird](#):
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> So you’re saying that Tarzan’s spiel about how horrible Lief was, was just a ruse known to everyone but Bill?

Yes, I suspect this is the case. Everyone on the show has seen Survivor. I think Colton is probably a bit of a “rules lawyer”. Colton understands the Producer’s desire to make good TV and is playing into that role. It’s very meta and by now I know not to take everything depicted on reality TV at face value.

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**Author:** ![Lare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/53a042/32.png) [@Lare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lare)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2012, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-one-world-march-7-2012/615094/23 "2012-03-08T14:13:49Z")

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> [@twickster](#):
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> [According to Jeff,](http://insidetv.ew.com/2012/03/08/jeff-probst-episode-4-survivor-one-world/) yes, it had to be unanimous.

That’s not the way I’m reading it, Twicks. Dalton said “All eight people had to agree…” But Jeff only said “What’s crazy is that all eight agreed.” He then comments on peer pressure, but I wondered if someone had decided not to go along if they would have done so anyway.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2012, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-one-world-march-7-2012/615094/24 "2012-03-08T14:19:42Z")

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> [@Lare](#):
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> That’s not the way I’m reading it, Twicks. Dalton said “All eight people had to agree…” But Jeff only said “What’s crazy is that all eight agreed.” He then comments on peer pressure, but I wondered if someone had decided not to go along if they would have done so anyway.

Hm, yeah, good point.

I still think so, but agree that my cite isn’t definitely proof.

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**Author:** ![Anonymous\_Coward](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/94ad74/32.png) [@Anonymous\_Coward](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anonymous_Coward)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2012, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-one-world-march-7-2012/615094/25 "2012-03-08T14:54:43Z")

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> [@twickster](#):
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> [According to Jeff,](http://insidetv.ew.com/2012/03/08/jeff-probst-episode-4-survivor-one-world/) yes, it had to be unanimous.

Interesting, he gave a small tiny spoiler for next week that requires guessing on our part (spoiler follows that’s so damn vague it can mean anything) next week “history repeats itself”. I’m going to guess someone gets booted off with an idol in their pocket.

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**Author:** ![Moonlitherial](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4bbf92/32.png) [@Moonlitherial](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moonlitherial)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2012, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-one-world-march-7-2012/615094/26 "2012-03-08T16:36:25Z")

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Just Monday I was complaining to a friend of mine that the women’s team this year was making me despair about the brains of female reality show contestants. Now I guess it’s just reality show contestants. What a giant clusterfuck.

Oh well, idiocy is entertaining 🙂

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**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2012, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-one-world-march-7-2012/615094/27 "2012-03-08T16:36:32Z")

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> [@notfrommensa](#):
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> I sure glad they sub-titled “bum-puzzled” or else my DVR would have got worn rewinding trying to figure out what he said.

Apparently, the transcriptionist had as much difficulty as you, because what he actually said was [bumfuzzled](http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/bumfuzzled).

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**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2012, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-one-world-march-7-2012/615094/28 "2012-03-08T16:38:21Z")

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> [@Tangent](#):
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> The men really need to blindside Colton.

I can’t believe no one has brought up the idea. What a craven bunch.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2012, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-one-world-march-7-2012/615094/29 "2012-03-08T17:01:22Z")

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> [@Tangent](#):
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> Wow, what a massively stupid thing to do.
> 
> The men really need to blindside Colton.

That will be the most gratifying blindside in Survivor history. I don’t think I’ve every seen a more unlikeable character.

He’s like a psychotic despot: the Stalin, or Pol Pot of Survivor.

And despite Tarzan’s rant and Probst’s leading questions at TC, it’s not about black vs white, or gay vs straight, or rich vs poor. It’s about Assholes vs Non-Assholes.

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**Author:** ![Moonlitherial](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4bbf92/32.png) [@Moonlitherial](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moonlitherial)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2012, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-one-world-march-7-2012/615094/30 "2012-03-08T17:01:35Z")

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> [@Spoke](#):
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> I can’t believe no one has brought up the idea. What a craven bunch.

Of course no one has brought it up, they don’t trust each other. The one time someone tried to have a non Colton approved conversation someone outside their alliance ran and squealed to him. The only way blindsiding works is if the person you’re talking to about it trusts you more than the person you’re trying to blindside.

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**Author:** ![FlightlessBird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/cdc98d/32.png) [@FlightlessBird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlightlessBird)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2012, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-one-world-march-7-2012/615094/31 "2012-03-08T17:21:42Z")

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Colton was hanging around the women so much early on because he was such an outsider with the men. Now that he’s controlling the men, I can’t imagine him running to be bottom totem with the women. But if it’s a just a mixup, he may switch up his final-5 alliance. I wouldn’t put much faith in Colton’s allegiance.  
Also Alicia needs to go too. After her and Colton I can live with everyone else. (Although Lief’s indian-dance has me scratching my head)

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2012, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-one-world-march-7-2012/615094/32 "2012-03-08T17:38:12Z")

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> [@Moonlitherial](#):
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> Just Monday I was complaining to a friend of mine that the women’s team this year was making me despair about the brains of female reality show contestants. Now I guess it’s just reality show contestants. What a giant clusterfuck.
> 
> Oh well, idiocy is entertaining 🙂

I was worried from episode 1 that this may be a season where I hate nearly the entire cast. It’s coming true, so far.

Great casting in principle, but I think ultimately, these folks are behaving worse than the producers hoped.

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**Author:** ![ekweizn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7c8e57/32.png) [@ekweizn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekweizn)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2012, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-one-world-march-7-2012/615094/33 "2012-03-08T17:43:46Z")

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> [@Anonymous\_Coward](#):
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> Interesting, he gave a small tiny spoiler for next week that requires guessing on our part (spoiler follows that’s so damn vague it can mean anything) next week “history repeats itself”. I’m going to guess someone gets booted off with an idol in their pocket.

My guess: Colton gets possession of both immunity idols.

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**Author:** ![phungi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/phungi/32/395_2.png) [@phungi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phungi)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2012, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-one-world-march-7-2012/615094/34 "2012-03-08T18:05:38Z")

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> [@The\_Controvert](#):
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> Here’s probably what happened. Colton gets the idea to give away immunity. He asks the producers if that’s allowed. Producers love unprecedented “big risk” moves, have a pow-wow and tell Colton they can do it only if it is a unanimous decision.
> 
> That’s fair, since the men won the immunity challenge together as a tribe. And it seems inconceivable for Bill and Leif to go along with it.
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> But given these parameters, Colton hatches a plan to get out Bill (his target all along) by getting Leif and the others to play along with a manufactured story. This suckers Bill into consenting to give away their immunity. The other men figure they’re in no danger, so they go along.
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> By voting as a team, they solidify their tribal dynamic, cut out the annoying “cancer”, make Colton feel like he’s the big shot and possibly gain some good will with the women tribe. Bill did seem to be a rather annoying clown, so perhaps he was insufferable.

I just don’t get the timing of all this… the “justification” is to get Lief out for “treason” of some sort… under this ruse they get Bill to go along, but are lying to Bill and vote him out…

Why give up immunity for this? All because Colton said so? It could be achieved the next time the tribe lost an IM…

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**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2012, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-one-world-march-7-2012/615094/35 "2012-03-08T18:15:16Z")

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> [@Anonymous\_Coward](#):
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> I’m going to guess someone gets booted off with an idol in their pocket.

Please Og, let it be so.

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**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2012, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-one-world-march-7-2012/615094/36 "2012-03-08T18:19:36Z")

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> [@Lare](#):
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> That’s not the way I’m reading it, Twicks. Dalton said “All eight people had to agree…” But Jeff only said “What’s crazy is that all eight agreed.” He then comments on peer pressure, but I wondered if someone had decided not to go along if they would have done so anyway.

I think that Jeff would have corrected Dalton if it hadn’t had to have been a unanimous decision. Jeff is right, it was crazy that they all agreed.

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**Author:** ![Lare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/53a042/32.png) [@Lare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lare)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2012, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-one-world-march-7-2012/615094/37 "2012-03-08T18:29:30Z")

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> [@Nars\_Glinley](#):
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> I think that Jeff would have corrected Dalton if it hadn’t had to have been a unanimous decision. Jeff is right, it was crazy that they all agreed.

Ahh but I could interpret it like this:  
Dalton: “All eight people had to (have) agreed…”  
Jeff: Says nothing because he wants to get to the question about his movie.  
🙂  
Really doesn’t matter, I guess. We normally don’t get all the specifics on the rules and often think that something should have been done differently than the way it was. In this case, either way, the tribe made their (incredibly stupid IMO) decision and we’ll see how it plays out. Have to admit it’s much more entertaining to have started my Thursday with these discussions than just about how glad/surprised I am that the women voted out what’s-her-name.

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**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2012, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-one-world-march-7-2012/615094/38 "2012-03-08T21:03:13Z")

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Jeff must have been thrilled. He managed to be contemptuous to both teams this week. The woman for not getting the immunity puzzles and the men for voluntarily going to a tribal council. Do producers screen these people for brains? Because I did not see any on display at all last night.

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**Author:** ![Moonchild](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@Moonchild](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moonchild)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2012, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-one-world-march-7-2012/615094/39 "2012-03-08T21:29:45Z")

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> [@Moonlitherial](#):
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> Just Monday I was complaining to a friend of mine that the women’s team this year was making me despair about the brains of female reality show contestants. Now I guess it’s just reality show contestants. What a giant clusterfuck.
> 
> Oh well, idiocy is entertaining 🙂

Clearly, Moon people think alike. 😃

All I’m hanging my hat on this season is the fun in watching idiots make perplexing moves.

My greatest concern – which will halt my viewing this season – is if Colton survives the merge. Because he will be the guy nobody votes out because they want to be sitting next to him in the Final Tribal Council. Sorry, not going to blow my Wednesdays watching some racist, elitist twit spout off for a season – and get away with it.

But for now, he’s so much fun to hate.

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**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2012, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-one-world-march-7-2012/615094/40 "2012-03-08T21:31:17Z")

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> [@Moonchild](#):
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> Clearly, Moon people think alike. 😃
> 
> All I’m hanging my hat on this season is the fun in watching idiots make perplexing moves.
> 
> My greatest concern – which will halt my viewing this season – is if Colton survives the merge. Because he will be the guy nobody votes out because they want to be sitting next to him in the Final Tribal Council. Sorry, not going to blow my Wednesdays watching some racist, elitist twit spout off for a season – and get away with it.
> 
> But for now, he’s so much fun to hate.

How can he be racist? His housekeeper is black, and she’s just like family!

What are you, some sort of Oompa Loompa or something?

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