# Survivor: One World May 13 2012 "Perception is Not Always Reality" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 14, 2012, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-one-world-may-13-2012-perception-is-not-always-reality/621825 "2012-05-14T00:59:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2012, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-one-world-may-13-2012-perception-is-not-always-reality/621825/81 "2012-05-17T16:38:41Z")
> [@storyteller0910](#): > > [spoiler]He was on the second season, in the Australian Outback. He was a pretty intense guy, and by about halfway through the season he had gone just about native. In those days, they _really_ left them to fend mostly for themselves when it came to food - they give them a lot more food and other provisions now than when the show was in its early days. At first, Mike did a lot of fishing, but eventually he became obsessed with killing a wild boar. You know, for the food. And because he was Colonel Kurtz. So one day… he just _did it_. And not with a trap, or a bow, or a rifle, but with a spear he made by tying a knife to a stick. After he’d killed it, he put some of its blood on his face. > > Then, he was tending a fire and passed out, falling face first into the fire and burning his hands and face badly enough that he had to be removed from the game. > > He was a very scary man in the Outback. In real life he ran a software publishing company. So.[/spoiler] Who was the one that carved a Blackberry out of driftwood and looked at the camera with Jerry Springer eyes and said “I’m talking to people . . . not on the island.” ---
**Author:** ![Angie1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/65b543/32.png) [@Angie1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Angie1)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2012, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-one-world-may-13-2012-perception-is-not-always-reality/621825/82 "2012-05-17T16:38:59Z")
> [@storyteller0910](#): > > [spoiler]He was on the second season, in the Australian Outback. He was a pretty intense guy, and by about halfway through the season he had gone just about native. In those days, they _really_ left them to fend mostly for themselves when it came to food - they give them a lot more food and other provisions now than when the show was in its early days. At first, Mike did a lot of fishing, but eventually he became obsessed with killing a wild boar. You know, for the food. And because he was Colonel Kurtz. So one day… he just _did it_. And not with a trap, or a bow, or a rifle, but with a spear he made by tying a knife to a stick. After he’d killed it, he put some of its blood on his face. > > Then, he was tending a fire and passed out, falling face first into the fire and burning his hands and face badly enough that he had to be removed from the game. > > He was a very scary man in the Outback. In real life he ran a software publishing company. So.[/spoiler] Oh gosh yes now I recall, I borrowed a friends DVD’s of that season and watched it and do recall what happened to him. Yeah then let it be him to blind side Colton or have an confrontation with him. ---
**Author:** ![Angie1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/65b543/32.png) [@Angie1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Angie1)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2012, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-one-world-may-13-2012-perception-is-not-always-reality/621825/83 "2012-05-17T16:40:22Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > The earlier seasons where food was a really big issue were a lot more fun to watch. I’ll never forge the episode where the rains came in, the river flooded and washed away most of one tribe’s food. It was tough going, back in the day! That was the Australian Outback but didn’t one of the women, I think it was Tina swim in the water and get their rice back for them? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2012, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-one-world-may-13-2012-perception-is-not-always-reality/621825/84 "2012-05-17T16:56:37Z")
> [@Angie1](#): > > That was the Australian Outback but didn’t one of the women, I think it was Tina swim in the water and get their rice back for them? Yeah, I think they did recover some of it, but the looks on their faces when they first saw what happened. That was also the season where Colby handed $1M to Tina a silver platter. Now he’s hosting some B rated reality show on The History Channel or someplace. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2012, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-one-world-may-13-2012-perception-is-not-always-reality/621825/85 "2012-05-17T17:02:49Z")
Hey, **Top Shot** is a neat show! I’ll bet he’s got more money than Tina has got right now. ---
**Author:** ![Angie1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/65b543/32.png) [@Angie1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Angie1)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2012, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-one-world-may-13-2012-perception-is-not-always-reality/621825/86 "2012-05-17T17:03:04Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Yeah, I think they did recover some of it, but the looks on their faces when they first saw what happened. > > That was also the season where Colby handed $1M to Tina a silver platter. Now he’s hosting some B rated reality show on The History Channel or someplace. LOL yes I remember that and thinking that he is insane! I saw the ads for his reality show a few months ago. Poor Colby, he could not cut it in All Stars or Heroes Vs. Villains. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2012, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-one-world-may-13-2012-perception-is-not-always-reality/621825/87 "2012-05-17T17:13:20Z")
I met Michael Skupin back when season 2 aired. He actually seemed like a pretty nice, normal guy. He still had his cast on. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2012, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-one-world-may-13-2012-perception-is-not-always-reality/621825/88 "2012-05-17T17:16:55Z")
For anyone who is having trouble remembering the three spoiled names, or who doubt if those will be the actual three people:[spoiler]At the end of Sunday’s finale when they showed the promo material for next season explaining the gimmick, those three people featured prominently. Also, not related to anything, Jonathan Penner was a [reasonably successful actor](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0672103/). His highest profile gig was probably being one of the two leads (opposite Sherilyn Fenn) in a 90s Showtime sitcom that ran for three seasons called [Rude Awakening](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0672103/).[/spoiler] ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2012, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-one-world-may-13-2012-perception-is-not-always-reality/621825/89 "2012-05-17T17:21:44Z")
Regarding villians on Survivor: I’m okay with someone who is devious and dishonest in the context of the game, I find that enjoyable to watch. I don’t enjoy watching a racist spout hateful crap. If Survivor is not enjoyable to watch, I won’t watch it. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2012, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-one-world-may-13-2012-perception-is-not-always-reality/621825/90 "2012-05-17T17:55:01Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > Who was the one that carved a Blackberry out of driftwood and looked at the camera with Jerry Springer eyes and said “I’m talking to people . . . not on the island.” That was Shane Powers. He was also a 3 packs/day smoker right up until they started filming, which may have inspired some of his craziness. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2012, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-one-world-may-13-2012-perception-is-not-always-reality/621825/91 "2012-05-17T18:05:34Z")
Too late to edit - here’s a clip of Shane & his wooden blackberry: [![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/6etK0-ShYqE/hqdefault.jpg "Blackberry and Survivor") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6etK0-ShYqE) Jump to 0:50 or so for the crazy eyes. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2012, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-one-world-may-13-2012-perception-is-not-always-reality/621825/92 "2012-05-17T20:01:21Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > That was Shane Powers. He was also a 3 packs/day smoker right up until they started filming, which may have inspired some of his craziness. We affectionately called him “Inshane”, IIRC. ---
**Author:** ![ekweizn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7c8e57/32.png) [@ekweizn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekweizn)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2012, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-one-world-may-13-2012-perception-is-not-always-reality/621825/93 "2012-05-18T13:47:29Z")
> [@Angie1](#): > > I hate to tell you all this but I just heard from a very reliable source that one of the returning Survivor’s next season is indeed Colton. I nearly vomited when I heard that and I pray it isn’t so but the source is reliable so I guess like Russell, we are going to get another dose of Colton. Given his reputation, I can’t imagine him lasting very long before being voted out. Colton’s been tweeting this entire season, but filming for Survivor: Philippines started in March and wrapped just before the season finale aired. Can’t be Colton. ---
**Author:** ![ekweizn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7c8e57/32.png) [@ekweizn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekweizn)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2012, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-one-world-may-13-2012-perception-is-not-always-reality/621825/94 "2012-05-18T13:57:37Z")
> [@storyteller0910](#): > > [spoiler]Russell Swan was in, I think, Samoa; he was a lawyer in his forties. He seemed smart and reasonably athletic but wound up - I don’t remember exactly - injured knee or something? > > Jonathan Penner was on twice. I don’t remember his first season, but he was on Micronesia (The Fans vs. Favorites season). He was kind of a smart-ass, and a lot of audience members liked him a lot but he seemed to rub people actually in the game with him the wrong way.[/spoiler] [spoiler]Russell Swan’s tribe was dominating Russell Hantz’s tribe when he passed out in an immunity challenge. Had Swan not “died”, it’s possible the entire Hantz family franchise would have been squashed early on. Jonathan Penner was key to the two big moves on Cook Islands (his first season) in Yul’s victory as we discussed earlier in the thread. Jonathan got an infection in his knee in Micronesia.[/spoiler] ---
**Author:** ![Cate06](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a4c791/32.png) [@Cate06](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cate06)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2012, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-one-world-may-13-2012-perception-is-not-always-reality/621825/95 "2012-05-18T15:19:04Z")
> [@Minnie\_Luna](#): > > I thought the same thing. No to mention that one of your tribe mates is a surgeon you would think he would have noticed and asked about it. Tarzan wasn’t exactly shy. I thought the same thing…a scar would be noticable. But as I was watching the reunion show, at the 22 minute, 24 second mark, right after she says “and I am a hundred percent…”, she starts moving around. To the left of the CBS logo, you can see a very thin shiny scar. ---
**Author:** ![randwill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@randwill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randwill)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2012, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-one-world-may-13-2012-perception-is-not-always-reality/621825/96 "2012-05-18T15:37:40Z")
> [@Cate06](#): > > I thought the same thing…a scar would be noticable. But as I was watching the reunion show, at the 22 minute, 24 second mark, right after she says “and I am a hundred percent…”, she starts moving around. To the left of the CBS logo, you can see a very thin shiny scar. So it seems that her tribemates would have seen it and possibly asked about it. Which makes me wonder if her revelation at the final tribal council was news to them or if it was a manufactured moment by the producers. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2012, 8:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-one-world-may-13-2012-perception-is-not-always-reality/621825/97 "2012-05-19T08:13:36Z")
> [@Angie1](#): > > If they brought back the useless people there would be a tribe of over 100. For instance this season, I can’t understand these bimbo’s that follow the leader (Kim) and do everything she says to catapult her up to the top? Why would you do that? Troyzan offered them a good blind side that would shake up the game and get rid of the strongest player (Kim) and they just ingored him. Kim deserved to win since she outwitted, outplayed, outsmarted everyone! Well, Kim was just that good. I mean she had everyone buffaloed into think Kim was going to take them with her all the way, and then at the end she won challenge after challenge. Sure, it was a little boring, but she was a gifted player on many levels. I agree with most everyone- whatever, who-ever- **NO COLTON**!!! Sure, there were villians before, but Colton’s just a racist entitled escape’ from the Jerry Springer show. Bring him back and you might as well start stocking the island with folding chairs- and making the next game “Transexual hookers vs guys who got teens pregnant”. No doubt, 3 Russells was at least 1 too many, but he was fun to hate. Colton- _you just hate_, like that “grandma’s dead liar”. And also- Jeff? Don’t mix returnees with newbies. Too unfair. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2012, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-one-world-may-13-2012-perception-is-not-always-reality/621825/98 "2012-05-19T22:57:29Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Sure, there were villians before, but Colton’s just a racist entitled escape’ from the Jerry Springer show. Bring him back and you might as well start stocking the island with folding chairs- and making the next game “Transexual hookers vs guys who got teens pregnant”. . I suggested a [Survivor: Jerry Springer](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=532267) several years ago. We came up with a these contestant profiles: (1) Tranny (2) Hooker (3) Gigolo (4) Dominatrix (5) Gay for Pay Porn model 6) Morbidly Obese (7) pregnant teen (8) bigamist (9) anorexic (10) guy addicted to porn (11) girl looking for sugar daddy (12) cougar (13) Nazi Skin-head (14) Amish Rumspringer kid (15) Elvis Impersonator (16) Goth (17) Rehabbing Junkie (18) Normal person. ---
**Author:** ![randwill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@randwill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randwill)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2012, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-one-world-may-13-2012-perception-is-not-always-reality/621825/99 "2012-05-19T23:15:10Z")
> [@notfrommensa](#): > > I suggested a [Survivor: Jerry Springer](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=532267) several years ago. > > We came up with a these contestant profiles: > > (1) Tranny > (2) Hooker > (3) Gigolo > (4) Dominatrix > (5) Gay for Pay Porn model > 6) Morbidly Obese > (7) pregnant teen > (8) bigamist > (9) anorexic > (10) guy addicted to porn > (11) girl looking for sugar daddy > (12) cougar > (13) Nazi Skin-head > (14) Amish Rumspringer kid > (15) Elvis Impersonator > (16) Goth > (17) Rehabbing Junkie > (18) Normal person. That ratings gold, Jerry. Gold! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-one-world-may-13-2012-perception-is-not-always-reality/621825.md?page=4)