# Survivor \*Open Spoilers\* Nov 10, 2010 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 11, 2010, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-open-spoilers-nov-10-2010/560261 "2010-11-11T02:02:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-open-spoilers-nov-10-2010/560261/1 "2010-11-11T02:02:16Z")
Great Reward Challenge. Love the “Three Little Pigs” allusion. Too bad there was not “a huff and a puff.” Quote of the Season: “I hate playing stupid so much, but it is the smartest thing to do right now” So that was Fabio’s plan all along. Nice to know that NaOnka is just the same out of the game that she is while in the game. ---
**Author:** ![randwill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@randwill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randwill)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-open-spoilers-nov-10-2010/560261/2 "2010-11-11T02:10:01Z")
What happened to Marty’s Hidden Immunity Idol? I know he gave it to Sash (?) a couple of episodes back, but I thought it was with the understanding that it would be returned to him at some point. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-open-spoilers-nov-10-2010/560261/3 "2010-11-11T02:13:07Z")
> [@randwill](#): > > What happened to Marty’s Hidden Immunity Idol? I know he gave it to Sash (?) a couple of episodes back, but I thought it was with the understanding that it would be returned to him at some point. Psyche! ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-open-spoilers-nov-10-2010/560261/4 "2010-11-11T02:41:12Z")
> [@randwill](#): > > What happened to Marty’s Hidden Immunity Idol? I know he gave it to Sash (?) a couple of episodes back, but I thought it was with the understanding that it would be returned to him at some point. According to Sash last episode, he promised Marty he would give it back to him if he felt at risk at the next tribal **only.** So since he didn’t use it last time, the deal is over. And judging by his confessional, Marty was little blindsided, so he might not have even asked. I’m bummed that Marty went, he was definitely the most fun to watch person on the show. Outside of Sash and Brenda now, it doesn’t even seem like anyone is even trying. I’m not sure they even care about winning. Of course, now I’m interested who’s going next. Alina and Marty were on the chopping block for so long, that no one else’s name ever came up other than Jane. I did like Fabio’s “playing dumb” comment. While he’s definitely an airhead, I think he really is playing a lot dumber than he really is. He has good ideas, and he always seems to be very frustrated when no one listens to him. One last thing, I missed a couple minutes, how did everyone find out Nay has the idol? Did they just assume because of the whole “pushing the one legged girl over to a get a clue” incident? ---
**Author:** ![Southpaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a587f6/32.png) [@Southpaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southpaw)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-open-spoilers-nov-10-2010/560261/5 "2010-11-11T02:51:02Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > One last thing, I missed a couple minutes, how did everyone find out Nay has the idol? Did they just assume because of the whole “pushing the one legged girl over to a get a clue” incident? Nay told Brenda she had it. Things are looking up, there seemed to be less stupidity this episode. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-open-spoilers-nov-10-2010/560261/6 "2010-11-11T02:55:32Z")
> [@Southpaw](#): > > Nay told Brenda she had it. > > Things are looking up, there seemed to be less stupidity this episode. I knew Brenda knew (wasn’t she there when Nay found it). Did she tell everyone else? ---
**Author:** ![judikium](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a9adbd/32.png) [@judikium](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/judikium)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-open-spoilers-nov-10-2010/560261/7 "2010-11-11T02:58:21Z")
Glad Marty is gone. Interesting that there are two clear camps right now…looks like Holly, Fabio, and Dan are in trouble now? This seems like it’ll be a pretty fluid game though, no one seems too tied to actual alliances. I’m thinking that Marty was probably the only one who had a chance to overthrow the Sash/Brenda regime. Not saying it won’t happen- but they’ve got their feelers out really strong and if they stick together, they’ve got a clear path to the end. Who could successfully take them down now? Chase? Don’t think it’s going to happen… ---
**Author:** ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-open-spoilers-nov-10-2010/560261/8 "2010-11-11T04:58:00Z")
You’ve got to admire people with rock hard egos. Marty didn’t lose because he didn’t play the game well enough, he lost because the OTHERS didn’t play the game well enough. Uh-huh. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-open-spoilers-nov-10-2010/560261/9 "2010-11-11T06:01:38Z")
I loved the moment when NaOnka didn’t play her idol. You could see the dime drop in Marty’s head. The look on his face went from “so smug you want to slap him” to “Uhhh…what?” I can’t even imagine how annoying it is to be around him 24/7. I only see him for one hour out of 168 and I was ready to vote him out myself. Sooo arrogant…“Here’s the plan”…when did you become the big chief, Marty? ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Barchetta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@Red\_Barchetta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Barchetta)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-open-spoilers-nov-10-2010/560261/10 "2010-11-11T06:25:56Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > I can’t even imagine how annoying it is to be around him 24/7. I only see him for one hour out of 168 and I was ready to vote him out myself. Sooo arrogant…“Here’s the plan”…when did you become the big chief, Marty? In his defense, we’re no doubt seeing the most arrogant footage of him they could find–across a span of 3 days no less. And we also don’t know how truthful their editing is. It’s entirely possible there was a prefix to his “here’s the plan” statement. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 8:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-open-spoilers-nov-10-2010/560261/11 "2010-11-11T08:39:44Z")
Awesome challenge, woohoo! Loved it, though it was made a little comical (and maybe even more awesome) by the random guys-vs-girls split. I totally agree with Brenda that Chase was a moron for choosing the girls. Just when I finally warmed up to Marty in lieu of Alina, he’s out. Who do I root for now? I don’t totally hate Benry, I guess, and Fabio is kinda funny. Not that it much matters, since the Alliance of Racism is going straight to the final 3. _sigh_ ---
**Author:** ![LH75](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lh75/32/4438_2.png) [@LH75](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LH75)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-open-spoilers-nov-10-2010/560261/12 "2010-11-11T13:48:10Z")
Considering that NaOnka is a teacher, one wonders if she will have a job by the time this season is over. ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-open-spoilers-nov-10-2010/560261/13 "2010-11-11T14:28:57Z")
> [@LH75](#): > > Considering that NaOnka is a teacher, one wonders if she will have a job by the time this season is over. It’s LA…they’ll probably fucking promote her. ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-open-spoilers-nov-10-2010/560261/14 "2010-11-11T15:02:57Z")
Has anybody recognized Shawn Johnson the gymnast in this cast? How wonderful would it be if Jane and Dan are the last two standing? Who of those two would win? I so want Sash to be blindsided and unanimously voted out! ---
**Author:** ![singular1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ba9def/32.png) [@singular1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/singular1)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-open-spoilers-nov-10-2010/560261/15 "2010-11-11T15:22:14Z")
Well, in the first place, it’ll probably be a final three, so you might as well put NaOinka in there, because she’s the perfect goat. Unfortunately, that means at least $75K in her pocket for being horrible. But it’ll be Jane, hands down. Dan brags about his Mazerati, his house in the Hamptons - who’d give him a million? Apparently NaOinka has been getting some blowback on her facebook page, all of which she dismisses as “racist”. Shocking.:rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-open-spoilers-nov-10-2010/560261/16 "2010-11-11T15:26:46Z")
NaOnka’s name reminds me of a donkey. The ‘Onk’ sounds like ‘donkey’. Nay-OnnnnnnKA! Nay-OnnnnnKA! ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-open-spoilers-nov-10-2010/560261/17 "2010-11-11T15:32:24Z")
It seemed that Marty (and maybe everyone else) is clueless about the “minority alliance” between Sash, Brenda, and Naonka. Marty just assumed that Brenda would be on board with flushing Naonka’s immunity idol out, and no one else who voted with Marty seemed to question whether Brenda or Sash would go along with that plan. I have mixed feelings about Brenda: pro - she’s hot con - I get a bitch vibe from her, though it may be unjustified. pro - she seems fairly intelligent con - she’s allied with Naonka pro - she’s actually strategizing and playing the game con - she’s picking off some of the more interesting players (good for her game, not so great for the viewers) pro - she’s hot > [@Zeldar](#): > > Has anybody recognized Shawn Johnson the gymnast in this cast? I assume you’re joking. Who do you think looks like Shawn Johnson? Purple Kelly? ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-open-spoilers-nov-10-2010/560261/18 "2010-11-11T15:49:03Z")
Just saw the Ponderosa videos, Marty is just as smug and arrogant in those videos as he was in the game. Ponderosa has better digs this season. Pretty plush. ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-open-spoilers-nov-10-2010/560261/19 "2010-11-11T16:04:09Z")
> [@Tangent](#): > > I assume you’re joking. Who do you think looks like Shawn Johnson? Purple Kelly? > **[CBS Shows - Popular Primetime, Daytime, Late Night & Classics](https://www.cbs.com/shows/)** > > Watch full episodes and clips of Popular Primetime, Daytime, Late Night and Classic shows on CBS.com. Talk with other fans, catch up with your favorite shows and more. [http://www.vettri.net/gallery/celeb/shawn\_johnson/2009-CMT-Music-Awards/ShawnJohnson\_2009-CMT-Music-Awards\_Vettri.Net-04.jpg](http://www.vettri.net/gallery/celeb/shawn_johnson/2009-CMT-Music-Awards/ShawnJohnson_2009-CMT-Music-Awards_Vettri.Net-04.jpg) The resemblance has been better in some of the closeups on the show. Yes, I was mostly joking. ---
**Author:** ![Dag\_Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@Dag\_Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dag_Otto)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-open-spoilers-nov-10-2010/560261/20 "2010-11-11T16:36:08Z")
> [@Tangent](#): > > I have mixed feelings about Brenda: > pro - she’s hot I was with you up until this point. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-open-spoilers-nov-10-2010/560261.md?page=2)