# Survivor: Palau 5/5 - "We'll Make You Pay" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 5, 2005, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-palau-5-5-well-make-you-pay/302584 "2005-05-05T20:12:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2005, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-palau-5-5-well-make-you-pay/302584/81 "2005-05-09T18:14:19Z")
> [@rockle](#): > > Pixy Stix and Mountain Dew for him. Oh, _quelle coincidence_! Those are MY favorite foods, too! Must be kismet or something. Mmmm…sugar and caffeine; got your basic food groups right there. Chocolate Frosted Sugar Bombs for breakfast, maybe? Buzzy the Hummingbird much? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2005, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-palau-5-5-well-make-you-pay/302584/82 "2005-05-09T18:29:39Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > Mmmm…sugar and caffeine; got your basic food groups right there. Chocolate Frosted Sugar Bombs for breakfast, maybe? Buzzy the Hummingbird much? > > 🙂 Hey, it got me through 4 years of college, _cum laude_. Or maybe that was the microwave popcorn? ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2005, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-palau-5-5-well-make-you-pay/302584/83 "2005-05-09T18:34:03Z")
Can’t argue with success. It shows the difference in our ages – when I was in college we had to cook popcorn on wood-burning stoves. ---
**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2005, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-palau-5-5-well-make-you-pay/302584/84 "2005-05-09T18:51:42Z")
> [@rockle](#): > > Yeah, me too. I’m 4’ 11½" and my husband is 6’ 2" and that’s already a problem. Good thing Ian has those “long monkey arms” or he’d never be able to reach me while I’m standing on the top step and he’s at the bottom. Well, I’m _at least_ a quarter of an inch taller than you, so I feel somewhat better. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2005, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-palau-5-5-well-make-you-pay/302584/85 "2005-05-09T23:49:39Z")
> [@Slacker](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > After the vote, Jeff revealed that a tie had indeed occurred – two votes against Neleh and two votes against Kathy. He then explained that the Final Four would have two minutes to reach a majority consensus whether Neleh or Kathy should be voted out of the tribe and that, if they failed to, all of them except Vecepia, who had Immunity, would have to pick colored rocks out of a sack. The person to pick the only purple rock out of the bag would have to leave the tribe. > > The final four were given an opportunity to break the tie themselves before the Rock came and took Paschal away. When the tie happened this season, the team was given the opportunity to break it again, and they did. > > If they hadn’t, who knows what would have happened. Were I in their shoes, I wouldn’t be so quick to assume the rock wasn’t coming out. > [@Little Nemo](#): > > I’m going to assume that the players are aware of what the rules are, even if the producers don’t bother explaining everything on the air. I believe **Little Nemo** is right – the players do know what the rules are, and the way Tom described them was exactly how Probst said the dreaded purple rock was _supposed_ to have worked in Marquesas, which is something that the viewers supposedly never knew about. > [@Jeff Probst](#): > > “…The most interesting thing about Marquesas – **and what nobody knows** – is that we screwed up on the colored-rock tiebreaker that knocked out Paschal. In the event of a Tribal Council tie, Survivors pull rocks out of a bag, and whoever pulls the colored rock is eliminated. **Th[e] way it’s supposed to work is that once the tie is revealed, the people for whom votes have been cast, and the person with immunity all become safe; the others have to pull rocks.** We didn’t realize the process works for all numbers except four. (With four people left, only one person is eligible to pull a rock since one has immunity and two have recieved votes.) I realized something was wrong about halfway through as Paschal, Neleh and Kathy were all pulling their rocks out. Even if I had figured out exactly what was wrong, there would have been no way to correct it because we had already done it. Let me be clear – no rules were violated. It’s just not what we meant to happen. And that’s the truth.” > > [http://boards.muchmusic.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB6&Number=1353224&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=2](http://boards.muchmusic.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB6&Number=1353224&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=2) This interview was after the most recent season, season 9; Vanuatu (we’re in season 10), and note that he says “the way it **[is]** supposed to work…,” which I infer to mean that it’s a current rule, not something they did in the past and may or may not do in the future. And that’s exactly how Tom described it. So since he’s never seen it actually play out that way, it seems that the only way he’d know the detail about the voted-on parties becoming immune, too, would be if they were told by Jeff or the producers. ---
**Author:** ![singular1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ba9def/32.png) [@singular1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/singular1)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2005, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-palau-5-5-well-make-you-pay/302584/86 "2005-05-10T11:42:13Z")
> [@Draelin](#): > > Well, I’m _at least_ a quarter of an inch taller than you, so I feel somewhat better. 🙂 Woo-hoo! 5’7", baby, and y’all are gonna have to climb me to get to him! (Fortunately for you guys, there’s plenty of handholds :o ) ---
**Author:** ![Mama\_Tiger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6de8d8/32.png) [@Mama\_Tiger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mama_Tiger)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2005, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-palau-5-5-well-make-you-pay/302584/87 "2005-05-10T14:39:48Z")
Well, I’m 5’9" so looks like I get to go to the head of the line! > [@](#): > > It shows the difference in our ages – when I was in college we had to cook popcorn on wood-burning stoves. Yeah, well, we had to walk 6 miles uphill in the snow both ways to get our popcorn to cook on our wood-burning stoves! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2005, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-palau-5-5-well-make-you-pay/302584/88 "2005-05-10T14:46:06Z")
OK, now, girls, all y’all just stop it. We can all share Ian. Right after I’m finished with him. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-palau-5-5-well-make-you-pay/302584.md?page=4)