# Survivor: PI - 9/18/03 (Premier) - Probable spoilers **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 19, 2003, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-pi-9-18-03-premier-probable-spoilers/202517 "2003-09-19T01:21:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![androyd\_nyc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f17d59/32.png) [@androyd\_nyc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/androyd_nyc)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2003, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-pi-9-18-03-premier-probable-spoilers/202517/41 "2003-09-19T14:34:47Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Lady of the Lake \* > \*\*I thought the dread pirate Rupert was the most entertaining of the bunch as well. \*\* Absolutely must concur. Did anyone note Rupert’s hearty “Aaarrgh” as he was pushing the cannon through the rocky part of the course? ---
**Author:** ![AbbySthrnAccent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@AbbySthrnAccent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AbbySthrnAccent)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2003, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-pi-9-18-03-premier-probable-spoilers/202517/42 "2003-09-19T14:42:26Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Jadis \* > I’m putting money on Rupert to take it all. Dude, he’s wearing a _dress_ and doing it with complete aplomb. I dig this guy. 😃 \*\* I am so getting a kick out of him as well. I was a tad appalled when he stole the shoes from the other tribe. However he is [b/]so\*\* doing a great job of wearing a homemade skirt. I’m rooting for him even though the previews look like he comes a bit undone next week. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2003, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-pi-9-18-03-premier-probable-spoilers/202517/43 "2003-09-19T14:52:34Z")
I think it’s fine being a scout leader…but, uh, I think I might’ve chosen something else to wear on my big road trip outing on national TV. Lil might’ve gone beyond Dedication and into Obsession. I was really looking forward to see what became of the strapless blue dress over the next 39 days. Damn. I can’t believe I’m in the minority on this, but I thought Rupert’s shoe theft was totally Uncool. Conniving and backstabbing is part of the game, but theft of personal property is not. When the first words out of Jon’s mouth were “I don’t play fair…hee hee”, I knew I was going to hate him. Now I’ve forgotten…which two were the druggies outed by Smoking Gun? ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2003, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-pi-9-18-03-premier-probable-spoilers/202517/44 "2003-09-19T15:04:32Z")
jsc, you equate a road trip outing on national TV to a photo shoot? ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2003, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-pi-9-18-03-premier-probable-spoilers/202517/45 "2003-09-19T15:21:22Z")
True…she didn’t know she would be stuck in her uniform for the duration. I’ll give her the benefit of the doubt. On the other hand…I’m a fanatically dedicated Little League umpire; but I wouldn’t have packed my chest protector and mask on my trip to Survivor, and worn it to the photo shoot. ---
**Author:** ![Black\_Train\_Song](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4da419/32.png) [@Black\_Train\_Song](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Black_Train_Song)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2003, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-pi-9-18-03-premier-probable-spoilers/202517/46 "2003-09-19T15:33:17Z")
Rupert stealing that stuff was a show of brilliance. They’re pirates for crying out loud! (I don’t think he took their sneakers) What struck me as odd (among other things) is that they all stayed on one group while they looked for water. I feel bad for Ryan S. He seems like he landed in the wrong tribe. He’s the one (I think) that wanted to stay behind to spend ALL of the money. He’s the one who noted how nobody celebrated their arrival to camp. I hope he gets spared. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2003, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-pi-9-18-03-premier-probable-spoilers/202517/47 "2003-09-19T15:35:56Z")
Yeah, but you might have if it was “Survivor: Spring Training”, knowing that the show would primarily focused around baseball and its rules. Being a scout master gives her an identity that is closely related to what goes on during Survivor. Being an ump does not. ---
**Author:** ![Velma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/85e7bf/32.png) [@Velma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velma)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2003, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-pi-9-18-03-premier-probable-spoilers/202517/48 "2003-09-19T15:40:30Z")
**Smeghead** , it was my understanding that they traded Morgan’s stuff for supplies, so Morgan might not have ever known it was gone (if they assumed someone on their own team had traded it). It’s possible they are just finding out now as they watch the show! At first I thought he was trading the tennis shoes Jeff gave back to them and I thought he was a little mean, but when I realized it was just the sandals and stuff they wore for the supposed photo shoot, I thought it was pretty funny. If it was the tennis shoes they would have had a really, really hard time with challenges. Was anyone else laughing at the “I’ll trade it for your eyes” exchange? Sandra got her out of there quick! ---
**Author:** ![annieclaus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b5a626/32.png) [@annieclaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/annieclaus)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2003, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-pi-9-18-03-premier-probable-spoilers/202517/49 "2003-09-19T15:54:06Z")
I’m a SURVIVOR virgin, so I have a couple of comments to add to the preceding about last night’s premiere. Rupert creeps me out. I wouldn’t trust him with MY troubled teen. Too scruffy. And whatever happened to his serious sunburn??? Looked like it wasn’t a problem at all after his fishing expedition. Osten = mighty fine eye candy. But he’s not a real brainy guy. Lawyer Guy = Why wear an Armani suit to begin the SURVIVOR game? Buddy, you’re just asking for trouble. But I suppose the fine folks at Armani will come up with a substitute as thanks for all the fine mentions. Ryan S = I don’t think he’s as wimpy as he seemed last night. Nicole = Buh-bye! Glad she’s gone. Tijuana = What kind of pharmaceuticals do you sell, sweetheart? And I don’t know enough about any of the others yet. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2003, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-pi-9-18-03-premier-probable-spoilers/202517/50 "2003-09-19T16:11:52Z")
A few questions from this Survivor newbie: Am I correct in assuming the whole season is already in the can? Because I’ll be looking at what they decide to show and not show differently if it isn’t. Is there anything the contestants _have_ to do for the show besides the imunity challenges? Or do they spend the bulk of their time chasing their food, scratching their bites and scheming? Can you vote for yourself to be booted? Is Jeff Probst as smug and as pleased with himself as he appeared during this show? ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2003, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-pi-9-18-03-premier-probable-spoilers/202517/51 "2003-09-19T16:13:14Z")
annieclaus, regarding the Armani, he didn’t intend to start out that way. At the very beginning, everyone thought they were going to a photoshoot. In Survivors past, they arrive to a city near their location weeks in advance. These survivors were under the impression the game wasn’t to begin for several days - thus, they weren’t prepared, and were dressed to the nines to look nice for the camera (except for Hagrid’s tiedyed shirt). ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2003, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-pi-9-18-03-premier-probable-spoilers/202517/52 "2003-09-19T16:16:11Z")
Biggirl: Yes, the season is in the can, except the revelation of the final vote (that’s done live now). Supposedly even Burnett doesn’t know the final outcome, but there’s nothing to suggest he doesn’t peak. There will also be reward challenges, but that’s all they’re required to do. They don’t even have to do those, but they don’t get to win, obviously, if they don’t. Nope, can’t vote for yourself. I believe so. He was the same on Rock n’ Roll Jeopardy. ---
**Author:** ![Jadis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/87869e/32.png) [@Jadis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jadis)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2003, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-pi-9-18-03-premier-probable-spoilers/202517/53 "2003-09-19T16:25:03Z")
**Biggirl** …some answers for you. 🙂 1. Yes, the entire season is in the can before the show airs. The winner has already been voted for/decided upon, although the cast members do not know who won, since the votes are sealed until the live reveal at the end of the TV show airing. 2. The only command performances are the reward and immunity challenges, and the subsequent appearance at Tribal Council for the team the loses the immunity challenge. Everything else they do on in their free time, including how they split up labor, is entirely up to the teams. 3. No, you cannot vote for yourself to be booted. 4. Yes, Jeff Probst is quite full of himself…still not a bad host, though. After 5 seasons (I didn’t get to see Season 1), he sort of grows on you. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2003, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-pi-9-18-03-premier-probable-spoilers/202517/54 "2003-09-19T16:35:58Z")
I think the deal with Jeff is that he has definite opinions about how the game is being played, and what the contestants are up to–and he lets it show, during the challenges and at TC. So he’s not a totally disinterested observer, like an Alex Trebek. ---
**Author:** ![mcms\_cricket](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@mcms\_cricket](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mcms_cricket)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2003, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-pi-9-18-03-premier-probable-spoilers/202517/55 "2003-09-19T16:36:21Z")
Loved Rupert, hated “Johnny Fairplay” and Ryan S. On Ryan S.‘s bio on the CBS Web site, under “favorite alcoholic drink” "drinking is for boring people’ or something like that, which rubbed me the wrong way. Also, he struck me as being kind of dumb as to what the game is all about. Of course shelter and water should be your first priority, not a group hug and celebration! In all the interviews I’ve read, Probst keeps referring to some big lie a player tells that’s brilliant and ballsy and changes everything. I’m worried that it’s Johnny Fairplay (“because I don’t play fair”) who tells the lie. I’m hoping he gets voted off right away but if it IS him, that sounds like he could stick around for a while. Yuck. Not sure yet about Lill. I wasn’t impressed, but for some reason I have a feeling she could turn out to be a good player. None of the women are really sticking out yet, though I did like Sandra. She showed some real ingenuity in the town (and not just due to her Spanish speaking ability). I thought the nudity thing was kind of silly too, but really, it did make sense. Osten (as someone already noted) has been having problems with his shorts falling down. So I thought the whole “if they fall down, we’ll all go nude with you” was a good move in terms of fostering a team spirit sort of feeling (which could make you all work harder and work together better), and a good move in terms of ensuring that Osten wasn’t going to start worrying more about his shorts instead of working his butt off to win the challenge. If everyone else is nude, too then you’re not thinking about it as much. Ah, Survivor. ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2003, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-pi-9-18-03-premier-probable-spoilers/202517/56 "2003-09-19T16:45:07Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by nineiron \* > \*\*The Mexican town is spelled “Tijuana,” like her name. Sometimes people pronounce it as “Tiajuana,” but it’s “Tijuana.” > \*\* You’re right, my bad. ---
**Author:** ![handy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5a626/32.png) [@handy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handy)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2003, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-pi-9-18-03-premier-probable-spoilers/202517/57 "2003-09-19T16:45:23Z")
“I thought the nudity thing was kind of silly too, but really, it did make sense.” I didn’t think they should have done it, they risked getting their noodle caught on thorns. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2003, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-pi-9-18-03-premier-probable-spoilers/202517/58 "2003-09-19T16:46:53Z")
Somehow, I get the feeling that Osten wasn’t the _least_ bit worried about his shorts falling down. If he was, he could’ve kept his pants on. A bit of a flasher, I think. And I didn’t see ep 1 of season 1, but I think this is the first time a Hottie was voted off first. ---
**Author:** ![In\_Conceivable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/4bbf92/32.png) [@In\_Conceivable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/In_Conceivable)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2003, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-pi-9-18-03-premier-probable-spoilers/202517/59 "2003-09-19T16:47:27Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by mcms\_cricket \* > \*\*Osten (as someone already noted) has been having problems with his shorts falling down. So I thought the whole “if they fall down, we’ll all go nude with you” was a good move in terms of fostering a team spirit sort of feeling (which could make you all work harder and work together better), and a good move in terms of ensuring that Osten wasn’t going to start worrying more about his shorts instead of working his butt off to win the challenge. \*\* I would foster team spirit by making “crack boy” a belt. Thats just me though. ---
**Author:** ![mcms\_cricket](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@mcms\_cricket](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mcms_cricket)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2003, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-pi-9-18-03-premier-probable-spoilers/202517/60 "2003-09-19T16:51:48Z")
All right, all right. So it wasn’t the most sensible of ideas. 🙂 Although I will say that I don’t think Osten was worried about flashing people so much as he was worried that pants-around-his-ankles might impede his ability to help with the challenge. But OK, I’ll abandon my thought that the whole “we’ll-all-go-nude” idea might have made some sense. This is why I’d never be a contestant! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-pi-9-18-03-premier-probable-spoilers/202517.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-pi-9-18-03-premier-probable-spoilers/202517.md?page=4)