# Survivor: Redemption Island Starts tonight

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-redemption-island-starts-tonight/571609>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [February 16, 2011, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-redemption-island-starts-tonight/571609 "2011-02-16T18:23:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2011, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-redemption-island-starts-tonight/571609/61 "2011-02-20T17:31:20Z")

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…with the power to peer into men’s souls.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2011, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-redemption-island-starts-tonight/571609/62 "2011-02-20T18:06:51Z")

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But not women’s?

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2011, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-redemption-island-starts-tonight/571609/63 "2011-02-20T18:47:33Z")

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Women have souls?

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**Author:** ![Red\_Barchetta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@Red\_Barchetta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Barchetta)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2011, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-redemption-island-starts-tonight/571609/64 "2011-02-21T01:56:52Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> I am also not happy with Jeff no longer having a real blog after each show.

Any reason why he stopped?

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2011, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-redemption-island-starts-tonight/571609/65 "2011-02-21T02:49:22Z")

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> [@Red\_Barchetta](#):
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> Any reason why he stopped?

No idea. Looks like EW is doing a question and answer session with him weekly. Weird.

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**Author:** ![LH75](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lh75/32/4438_2.png) [@LH75](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LH75)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2011, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-redemption-island-starts-tonight/571609/66 "2011-02-21T02:58:17Z")

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It looks like Jeff moved his blog from EW to here:

[http://www.jeffprobst.com/2011/02/17/survivor-redemption-island-episode-one-blog-21711/](http://www.jeffprobst.com/2011/02/17/survivor-redemption-island-episode-one-blog-21711/)

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2011, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-redemption-island-starts-tonight/571609/67 "2011-02-21T03:10:25Z")

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> [@LH75](#):
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> It looks like Jeff moved his blog from EW to here:
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> [http://www.jeffprobst.com/2011/02/17/survivor-redemption-island-episode-one-blog-21711/](http://www.jeffprobst.com/2011/02/17/survivor-redemption-island-episode-one-blog-21711/)

Thanks for that!

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2011, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-redemption-island-starts-tonight/571609/68 "2011-02-21T03:42:51Z")

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I keep posting to the wrong thread…Nevermind

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2011, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-redemption-island-starts-tonight/571609/69 "2011-02-21T03:51:56Z")

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> [@](#):
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> I took my boombox, yes I still have a boombox, and I gathered the Survivors around me in a circle. They still couldn’t talk because the game hadn’t yet started. I then put on LOSE YOURSELF by Eminem. I blasted it from the speakers. I had the words printed on a sheet of paper. I went from one person to another singing the song.. well talking the song… well actually just basically screaming the song. I wanted them to feel the energy I felt – that we were sitting on the edge of something really special.

Jeff is an Assistant Manager at a corporate team building retreat.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2011, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-redemption-island-starts-tonight/571609/70 "2011-02-21T18:01:43Z")

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> [@AlsoNamedBort](#):
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> 1. Because you’re dumb and you’re only knowledge of strategy is from watching other HII finders revealing theirs.
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> When did he cheat?

Actually, playing the HII is only half it’s value, the other half is others knowing you have it, which makes them less likely to vote you out. Sometimes.

He took other peoples property, and that’s against the rules.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2011, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-redemption-island-starts-tonight/571609/71 "2011-02-21T18:14:25Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> He took other peoples property, and that’s against the rules.

Remind us.

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**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2011, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-redemption-island-starts-tonight/571609/72 "2011-02-21T18:23:16Z")

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Russell stole Jaison’s socks & burned them. Hardly what I’d call “cheating” though, and its a rule that’s been violated before & since without on-screen implications. Sandra tossed Russell’s hat in the fire in Heroes vs. Villains, and they let her keep the million bucks.

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**Author:** ![Red\_Barchetta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@Red\_Barchetta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Barchetta)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2011, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-redemption-island-starts-tonight/571609/73 "2011-02-21T18:47:37Z")

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> [@muldoonthief](#):
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> Russell stole Jaison’s socks & burned them. Hardly what I’d call “cheating” though, and its a rule that’s been violated before & since without on-screen implications. Sandra tossed Russell’s hat in the fire in Heroes vs. Villains, and they let her keep the million bucks.

And Rupert stole shoes in his first season.

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**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2011, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-redemption-island-starts-tonight/571609/74 "2011-02-21T20:03:43Z")

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> [@muldoonthief](#):
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> Russell stole Jaison’s socks & burned them. Hardly what I’d call “cheating” though, and its a rule that’s been violated before & since without on-screen implications. Sandra tossed Russell’s hat in the fire in Heroes vs. Villains, and they let her keep the million bucks.

And someone else stole & destroyed Dan’s alligator shoes (supposedly worth like $1600) in the most recent season.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2011, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-redemption-island-starts-tonight/571609/75 "2011-02-21T20:50:16Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> He took other peoples property, and that’s against the rules.

So, since others have burned or stolen others goods, is there something Russell did that was worse?

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2011, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-redemption-island-starts-tonight/571609/76 "2011-02-21T22:46:56Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> So, since others have burned or stolen others goods, is there something Russell did that was worse?

Well, he’s an asshole, but all of them should have been disqualified. Maybe not Rupert given the circumstances.

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2011, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-redemption-island-starts-tonight/571609/77 "2011-02-22T00:34:51Z")

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The fact that they weren’t means its not against the rules. Unless it’s in your bag, everything is fair game.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2011, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-redemption-island-starts-tonight/571609/78 "2011-02-22T01:16:20Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Well, he’s an asshole, but all of them should have been disqualified. Maybe not Rupert given the circumstances.

Why? What’s against the rules?

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**Author:** ![tsm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/db5fbb/32.png) [@tsm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tsm)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2011, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-redemption-island-starts-tonight/571609/79 "2011-02-22T01:22:19Z")

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How do we know stealing is against the rules? It looks to me like it isn’t, since a lot of it seems to happen with no penalty.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2011, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-redemption-island-starts-tonight/571609/80 "2011-02-22T01:28:30Z")

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> [@tsm](#):
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> How do we know stealing is against the rules? It looks to me like it isn’t, since a lot of it seems to happen with no penalty.

That’s what I don’t get, but DrDeth insists it is and Russell is a cheater. I don’t get it.

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