# Survivor: Redemption Island Starts tonight **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 16, 2011, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-redemption-island-starts-tonight/571609 "2011-02-16T18:23:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![gonzoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a6a055/32.png) [@gonzoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzoron)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2011, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-redemption-island-starts-tonight/571609/101 "2011-02-24T15:06:24Z")
> [@storyteller0910](#): > > It wouldn’t have worked even then, because Rob and company had definitive plans to split the vote between Francesca and Kristina. All that would have happened had Phillip kept his mouth shut is that Kristina would have burned her idol and Francesca would have gone home. True. That would have forced a revote, and Francesca would have gone home IF Rob’s crew stayed solid and didn’t take the chance to turn on him. But at the time Kristina didn’t know how obvious she’d been about her idol hunt. There would have been no reason to split the vote on the very first TC except that Rob was smart/experienced enough to spot an idol hunter. ---
**Author:** ![shijinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@shijinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shijinn)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2011, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-redemption-island-starts-tonight/571609/102 "2011-02-24T15:15:11Z")
kristina did not use her HII - was it a blind gamble or did she speculate that the Former Federal Agent? would vote for franchequeska? i thought the latter but that would mean she would have considered the split vote too. ---
**Author:** ![gonzoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a6a055/32.png) [@gonzoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzoron)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2011, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-redemption-island-starts-tonight/571609/103 "2011-02-24T17:22:32Z")
> [@shijinn](#): > > kristina did not use her HII - was it a blind gamble or did she speculate that the Former Federal Agent? would vote for franchequeska? i thought the latter but that would mean she would have considered the split vote too. Speculate nothing. FFA? outright _said_ he’d do it at tribal. And once the idol was out in the open, with Rob’s confident public declaration to his alliance that he was going to continue with the plan, at that point, Kristina must have known it would be a split vote and that FFA? would make the tie-breaker. No need to play the idol anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Meatros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Meatros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meatros)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2011, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-redemption-island-starts-tonight/571609/104 "2011-02-24T19:44:06Z")
> [@The\_Controvert](#): > > This is one of the most frequently asked Survivor questions. The answer is because in order to obtain ownership of a Hidden Immunity Idol, you have to either be the person to originally find it or you have to have the owner transfer it to your possession in a formal declaration in front of cameramen. > > Would the show be watchable if anyone could just take it? The strongest, meanest contestant would always wrestle it away. > > I suspect the players can’t even hide or destroy another player’s HII. In one season, I think a tribe threw it into the ocean, but only because nobody took formal possession. If someone had, the owner could throw away “their” HII, but if another person throws it away, the producers should return it to the rightful owner or return a substitute idol. > > You might as well wonder why someone doesn’t take a machete to the other tribemates in their sleep or kick Jeff Probst in the nuts. Fair enough. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2011, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-redemption-island-starts-tonight/571609/105 "2011-02-24T19:48:33Z")
> [@The\_Controvert](#): > > You might as well wonder why someone doesn’t … kick Jeff Probst in the nuts. TBH that question has crossed my mind. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2011, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-redemption-island-starts-tonight/571609/106 "2011-02-24T20:08:49Z")
I liked that smile Kristina cracked when she had two votes and she thought she’s just made the smartest move in the game. She’s on the outside and knows it. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2011, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-redemption-island-starts-tonight/571609/107 "2011-02-25T01:28:04Z")
Watched both episodes last night. I was very suspicious in Ep 1 why they were showing so much of Francheskwa, and I figured she was a goner. Then in Ep 2 there is suddenly pre-dreadlock-guy who I never even noticed in the first Ep. But I have to say, I’m very disappointed in the whole HII thing. I think they are purposely hiding them in obvious places so people find them without clues. Red haired hick guy is so far my favorite, and I hope he gets Russell out ASAP. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2011, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-redemption-island-starts-tonight/571609/108 "2011-02-25T04:19:14Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Red haired hick guy… Ralph Roosterman. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2011, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-redemption-island-starts-tonight/571609/109 "2011-02-25T04:27:58Z")
Just to let you know guys, we’ve already got another topic on the second episode: > **[Survivor Redemption Island Feb 23, 2011](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=598246)** > > I hope the producers start playing this song when Special Agent Phillip Shepherd is on the screen. They have showing more craziness in the promotional ads. ---
**Author:** ![shijinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@shijinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shijinn)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2011, 9:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-redemption-island-starts-tonight/571609/110 "2011-02-26T09:02:08Z")
> [@gonzoron](#): > > Speculate nothing. FFA? outright _said_ he’d do it at tribal. … ah, i must have missed that. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-redemption-island-starts-tonight/571609.md?page=5)