# Survivor: Samoa **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 28, 2009, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-samoa/508080 "2009-08-28T20:36:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-samoa/508080/1 "2009-08-28T20:36:43Z")
I dibs Marissa! Some studs for some, some eye-candy for others. Most of the under-30 guys seem like real dicks. Could be an interesting season. [Cast photos.](http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32598760/?pg=01#Survivor_Samoa_090828) ---
**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-samoa/508080/2 "2009-08-28T20:44:29Z")
Not much geographic diversity there. _Spanning the US, from north LA to San Diego!_ ---
**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-samoa/508080/3 "2009-08-28T20:50:55Z")
Seriously, 10 of the 20 cast members are from California, including 7 from LA. What the hell? ---
**Author:** ![judikium](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a9adbd/32.png) [@judikium](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/judikium)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-samoa/508080/4 "2009-08-28T21:04:46Z")
I’m used to the California-centrism by now. It’s just kind of a given. I assume it’s producer laziness more than anything- Survivor’s going to be a cheap show with solid ratings as long as Probst is onboard. Why go out of their way to find contestants? I can’t imagine they’re watching tapes anymore, really. At least we’ve got the rare Minnesotan on board this season - Ashley. The only other one I can think of is Sally from Exile Island. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-samoa/508080/5 "2009-08-28T21:12:47Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Most of the under-30 guys seem like real dicks. Could be an interesting season. Agreed on both counts. Nearly every under-30 guy felt the need to throw some variation of “I could charm the pants off any woman” into his blurb. :rolleyes: Early pick to go all the way: Mick ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-samoa/508080/6 "2009-08-28T21:23:02Z")
There might some interesting conflict between the bartender and the “mixologist.” ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-samoa/508080/7 "2009-08-28T21:34:35Z")
Monica, Russell, and Mick don’t make me hate them on sight, plus the older guy, the chef. The rest – ai yi yi. And 20 is a huge number to start with – will there be some big eliminations early on, do you think? (Five teams of four, and one _team_ gets eliminated?) ---
**Author:** ![LH75](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lh75/32/4438_2.png) [@LH75](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LH75)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-samoa/508080/8 "2009-08-28T21:34:37Z")
It looks like the Bulgarian game is a little tougher than the one we watch: [Bulgaria Survivor contestant dies while filming](http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31036263/ns/entertainment-reality_tv/) ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-samoa/508080/9 "2009-08-28T21:44:39Z")
> [@LH75](#): > > It looks like the Bulgarian game is a little tougher than the one we watch: > > [Bulgaria Survivor contestant dies while filming](http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31036263/ns/entertainment-reality_tv/) That article says that Survivor orginated in the U.S. That’s not true, is it? I recall there being some controversy when it debuted in the US because of something that had happened in another version, like someone had committed suicide. ---
**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-samoa/508080/10 "2009-08-28T22:13:24Z")
There are rumors that another show just started filming, also in Samoa, and it is an All-Star cast. If the rumors are true, it has a f’ing awesome cast. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-samoa/508080/11 "2009-08-28T22:22:12Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > That article says that Survivor orginated in the U.S. That’s not true, is it? I recall there being some controversy when it debuted in the US because of something that had happened in another version, like someone had committed suicide. [It’s based on a Swedish show](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivor_(U.S._TV_series)), apparently, though the Survivor “brand” spins off from the American version. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-samoa/508080/12 "2009-08-28T22:46:03Z")
> [@Lamar\_Mundane](#): > > There are rumors that another show just started filming, also in Samoa, and it is an All-Star cast. If the rumors are true, it has a f’ing awesome cast. Ick. Not from the list I read. The only way to make All-Stars work any more is by doing the **Fans vs Favorites** thing. All you get for All-Stars are contestants with no lives. Although I would watch if there was a chance Coach would get eaten by a crocodile. eta: That’s it! Make the All-Star show a true “Survivor” show. Put some blood into it. Leave open the possibility that all the contestants might not make it out alive. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-samoa/508080/13 "2009-08-28T23:06:52Z")
Two Guys named Russell? And one of them looks like the Russell that just got evicted from Big Brother last night. Shannon (Chunky?) Waters is scary. She looks like she might hurt someone in bed. Betsy Bolan is a 48 yr old police officer from New Hampshire. Don’t ask me why I remember this but IIRC, Debb (Survivor; Australia) was a corrections officer from New Hamphire. They must be planning to have the reunion in LA so they can save on Air Fares to LA. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-samoa/508080/14 "2009-08-28T23:17:26Z")
> [@Lamar\_Mundane](#): > > There are rumors that another show just started filming, also in Samoa, and it is an All-Star cast. If the rumors are true, it has a f’ing awesome cast. As a rule I don’t go searching the net for Survivor news (because the spoilers are always brutal), but could you post the possible cast in a spoiler box? ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-samoa/508080/15 "2009-08-28T23:21:02Z")
Potential All-Star cast members: Survivor Australia: Jerri Manthey and Tina Wesson Survivor Africa: Tom Buchanan Survivor Amazon: Jenna Morasca Survivor Pearl Islands: Rupert Boneham, Johnny Fairplay, and Sandra Diaz-Twine Survivor Vanuatu: Twila Tanner Survivor Palau: Stephenie LaGrossa and Tom Westman Survivor Panama: Cirie Fields and Shane Powers Survivor Cook Islands: Ozzy Lusth and Parvati Shallow Survivor China: Jean-Robert Bellande, James Clement, and Amanda Kimmel Survivor Micronesia: Natalie Bolton Survivor Gabon: Randy Bailey, Ace Gordon, and Jessica “Sugar” Kiper Survivor Tocantins: Sierra Reed and Benjamin “Coach” Wade ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-samoa/508080/16 "2009-08-28T23:34:42Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Potential All-Star cast members: > > Survivor Australia: Jerri Manthey and Tina Wesson > Survivor Africa: Tom Buchanan > Survivor Amazon: Jenna Morasca > Survivor Pearl Islands: Rupert Boneham, Johnny Fairplay, and Sandra Diaz-Twine > Survivor Vanuatu: Twila Tanner > Survivor Palau: Stephenie LaGrossa and Tom Westman > Survivor Panama: Cirie Fields and Shane Powers > Survivor Cook Islands: Ozzy Lusth and Parvati Shallow > Survivor China: Jean-Robert Bellande, James Clement, and Amanda Kimmel > Survivor Micronesia: Natalie Bolton > Survivor Gabon: Randy Bailey, Ace Gordon, and Jessica “Sugar” Kiper > Survivor Tocantins: Sierra Reed and Benjamin “Coach” Wade Didn’t several of those already play in all-star versions? Johnny Fairplay and Ozzy, for two – that’s just off the top of my head. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-samoa/508080/17 "2009-08-28T23:54:18Z")
Yep. Like I said, people with no lives. ---
**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2009, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-samoa/508080/18 "2009-08-29T00:48:54Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Potential All-Star cast members: > > Survivor Australia: Jerri Manthey and Tina Wesson > Survivor Africa: Tom Buchanan > Survivor Amazon: Jenna Morasca > Survivor Pearl Islands: Rupert Boneham, Johnny Fairplay, and Sandra Diaz-Twine > Survivor Vanuatu: Twila Tanner > Survivor Palau: Stephenie LaGrossa and Tom Westman > Survivor Panama: Cirie Fields and Shane Powers > Survivor Cook Islands: Ozzy Lusth and Parvati Shallow > Survivor China: Jean-Robert Bellande, James Clement, and Amanda Kimmel > Survivor Micronesia: Natalie Bolton > Survivor Gabon: Randy Bailey, Ace Gordon, and Jessica “Sugar” Kiper > Survivor Tocantins: Sierra Reed and Benjamin “Coach” Wade [spoiler]I like this cast, with the exception of Rupert and Fairplay. They are useless. You have some of the strongest challenge monsters in Survivor history (Stephanie, James, Tom, and Ozzy) some of the social game players (Tina, Jenna, Parvati, Amanda), some characters (Jerri, Tom, Twila, John-Robert, Coach), and the ultimate schemer and I think the greatest player in Survivor history in Cirie. I will love this season, if indeed true. [/spoiler] ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2009, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-samoa/508080/19 "2009-08-29T00:58:53Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Potential All-Star cast members: > > Survivor Australia: Jerri Manthey and Tina Wesson > Survivor Africa: Tom Buchanan > Survivor Amazon: Jenna Morasca > Survivor Pearl Islands: Rupert Boneham, Johnny Fairplay, and Sandra Diaz-Twine > Survivor Vanuatu: Twila Tanner > Survivor Palau: Stephenie LaGrossa and Tom Westman > Survivor Panama: Cirie Fields and Shane Powers > Survivor Cook Islands: Ozzy Lusth and Parvati Shallow > Survivor China: Jean-Robert Bellande, James Clement, and Amanda Kimmel > Survivor Micronesia: Natalie Bolton > Survivor Gabon: Randy Bailey, Ace Gordon, and Jessica “Sugar” Kiper > Survivor Tocantins: Sierra Reed and Benjamin “Coach” Wade [spoiler]Geez that’s 24 players!! and there isn’t island big enough for the egos of Rupert, Ace and Coach. Please put them on the same tribe. Does anyone know if Amanda and Ozzy are still an item? Where’s HATCH? Still in jail? [/spoiler] ---
**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2009, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-samoa/508080/20 "2009-08-29T00:59:34Z")
I forgot to add that I’ve seen a different list. Rupert Boneham - Survivor: Pearl Islands and All Stars JT Thomas - Survivor: Tocantins, winner James Clement - Survivor China, Survivor: Micronesia Tom Westman - Survivor: Palau, winner Colby Donaldson - Survivor: Australian Outback, Survivor: All Stars Coach Ben Wade - Survivor: Tocantins Tyson Apostol - Survivor: Tocantins Randy Bailey - Survivor: Gabon Rob Mariano - Survivor Marquesas, Survivor: All Stars Unknown Male: Survivor: Samoa ? Stephenie LaGrossa - Survivor: Palau, Survivor: Guatemala Sugar Smith - Survivor: Gabon Amanda Kimmel - Survivor: China, Survivor: Micronesia Candice Woodcock - Survivor: Cook Islands Jerri Manthey - Survivor: Australian Outback, Survivor: All Stars Courtney Yates - Survivor: China Danielle DiLorenzo - Survivor: Exile Island Parvati Shallow - Survivor: Cook Islands, Survivor: Micronesia Sandra Diaz-Twine - Survivor: Pearl Islands Unknown Female - ? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-samoa/508080.md?page=2)