# Survivor Seaon 33 Starts Tonight (Also RE: TAR)

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**Created:** [September 21, 2016, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-seaon-33-starts-tonight-also-re-tar/766528 "2016-09-21T19:54:18Z")\
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**Author:** ![tenacious\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/439d5e/32.png) [@tenacious\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tenacious_j)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2016, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-seaon-33-starts-tonight-also-re-tar/766528/21 "2016-09-23T14:06:42Z")

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> [@magnusblitz](#):
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> Based on the colors they actually ended up wearing, I bet they told the Young Tribe something like “wear warm colors like red, orange or yellow” and the Old Tribe “wear cool colors like blue or purple.”

Yep. That’s all I’m saying. I don’t think they wore those clothes all week during travel and pre show setup, but at least for an hour or two before the buff unveiling.

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**Post date:** [September 23, 2016, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-seaon-33-starts-tonight-also-re-tar/766528/22 "2016-09-23T14:37:24Z")

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But since they don’t talk to each other or congregate before heading out to the island, there is no real significance to the colors they are told to wear. Until later.

For all we know, the costume people just went through each contestants bag and chose the most appropriate color item for them to wear. For the “photo shoot,” of course.

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**Post date:** [September 23, 2016, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-seaon-33-starts-tonight-also-re-tar/766528/23 "2016-09-23T14:39:37Z")

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> [@magnusblitz](#):
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> Based on the colors they actually ended up wearing, I bet they told the Young Tribe something like “wear warm colors like red, orange or yellow” and the Old Tribe “wear cool colors like blue or purple.”

They must either tell the contestants what color clothes to bring before they even leave for the filming location, or provide them clothes. Though they may give them a range of colors to bring. Because if I was packing to go on Survivor, even knowing I’d have to do photo shoots & interviews ahead of time, I’m 99% sure I wouldn’t bring anything that fit either tribe’s scheme.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2016, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-seaon-33-starts-tonight-also-re-tar/766528/24 "2016-09-23T17:32:41Z")

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There are definitely color instructions on what clothes to bring. Some colors just aren’t great for TV. I think black is a big no-no, for example. Or am I thinking of white? I forget. I’ve seen Big Brother contestants discuss it on live feeds. Something like:

I like your shirt.  
Really? I hate it. I always dress in black at home, so when they told us we had to bring colors I just grabbed whatever.

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**Author:** ![Moonchild](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@Moonchild](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moonchild)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2016, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-seaon-33-starts-tonight-also-re-tar/766528/25 "2016-09-23T17:58:12Z")

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The Moonwife is much more into the generation thing than I, but as an “early” (first?) Gen X’er (b. 1965), I hafta say, the notion that Gen X’ers busted their tails for everything they got, understand what family means, ad nauseum, is laying it on a little thick. I grew up middle class, but I had a video game console by the time I was 10 – Pong, but still – watched reruns of Get Smart & Gomer Pyle (justabout) every summer, and I grew up in the midst of a skyrocketing divorce rate when splitting parents seemed pretty clueless (or disinterested) in raising their kids. And I got a participation trophy my final year in Little League. So let’s lose the notion that Gen X’ers spent their formative years in soup lines. (Full disclosure: I did have a paper route.) By the time Millennials are in their 40’s I imagine they’ll mostly have their heads screwed on right.

There does seem to be a bit of chippiness between the two tribes – and maybe not all that forced – which might make for a good season. Alliances tend to remain even after tribe shakeups. What I don’t like – even if it might be a legit characteristic of our age group – is how, for the most part, _doughy_ the Gen X’ers chosen for the season are. Looks like they’re gonna get killed in the more athletic challenges.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2016, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-seaon-33-starts-tonight-also-re-tar/766528/26 "2016-09-23T18:24:30Z")

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Yeah, as a Gen Xer, I remember being considered the “millenial” compared to the baby boomers, at least in terms of entitlement and not working for anything.

The main difference between Gen Xers and Millenials from my perspective is that Gen Xers grew up with unstructured and unsupervised play time. Essentially: “Go outside and play.”

I look at my niece, who was born in 99, and shake my head. Her entire life I don’t think she’s ever just gone outside to play. It seems like every waking minute of her life was structured and supervised: School, soccer, band, dance, etc… What ever happened to just playing?

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**Post date:** [September 23, 2016, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-seaon-33-starts-tonight-also-re-tar/766528/27 "2016-09-23T18:35:49Z")

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> [@MoonMoon](#):
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> I think he looks an awful lot like a scrawny Seth Macfarlane, who, coincidentally, also happens to be a tv writer. [Seth MacFarlane - IMDb](http://m.imdb.com/name/nm0532235/)

Close, but you need to add in some [Moby](https://www.google.com/search?q=moby&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwieuNP4j6bPAhVK72MKHf2bBNcQ_AUICSgC&biw=1920&bih=926).

50% scrawny Seth Macfarlane/50% Moby

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**Post date:** [September 23, 2016, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-seaon-33-starts-tonight-also-re-tar/766528/28 "2016-09-23T19:07:29Z")

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Thankfully I fit into their definition of Gen X. I swear I’d lose my mind on that Millennial tribe. What an annoying group of people. Of course, it’s getting so that there are precious few people on a given season who don’t annoy me, which honestly may be my problem.

These young people getting all starry-eyed over one another drives me crazy. How many seasons have a group of young attractive people bonded too closely right out of the gate and then proceeded to get methodically eliminated? The poor idiots can’t help themselves, even for a million dollars.

Zeke is an early favorite. I could see several on the Gen X tribe being people I could root for.

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**Post date:** [September 24, 2016, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-seaon-33-starts-tonight-also-re-tar/766528/29 "2016-09-24T00:08:12Z")

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> [@EllisDee](#):
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> I look at my niece, who was born in 99, and shake my head. Her entire life I don’t think she’s ever just gone outside to play. It seems like every waking minute of her life was structured and supervised: School, soccer, band, dance, etc… What ever happened to just playing?

George Carlin: Do kids every just go outside and play with a stick? Do today’s kids even know what a stick is anymore?

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**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2016, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-seaon-33-starts-tonight-also-re-tar/766528/30 "2016-09-24T12:30:22Z")

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> [@Moonchild](#):
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> …I…watched reruns of Get Smart & Gomer Pyle (justabout) every summer…

I don’t care whatever else you say or do, now or in the future; because of this line we are brothers.  
mmm

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**Post date:** [September 24, 2016, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-seaon-33-starts-tonight-also-re-tar/766528/31 "2016-09-24T16:08:59Z")

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> [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](#):
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> I don’t care whatever else you say or do, now or in the future; because of this line we are brothers.  
> mmm

My Brother!

(Let’s just not talk about the abomination known as The Nude Bomb.)

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**Post date:** [September 28, 2016, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-seaon-33-starts-tonight-also-re-tar/766528/32 "2016-09-28T14:27:51Z")

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No mention of the challenge yet. I hope the “shortcut” business isn’t a one time thing. I definitely want to see more choices to make in the challenges other than “Who’s going to do the puzzle?” Although I hope the downside of taking a shortcut won’t just be more puzzle pieces.

> [@tenacious\_j](#):
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> I know he’s always showed up as the on-camera production representative, but something last night gave me a sense of “Jeff is running the show” vs. “Jeff is our host.”

I would say that Jeff is the most powerful reality show host. It’s been clear in the past that he does have the authority to make decisions on the fly at challenges and tribals.

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-seaon-33-starts-tonight-also-re-tar/766528/33 "2016-09-29T01:39:56Z")

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MIchelle on millenials looks like Gilly on Game of Thrones - or the actress that plays her (Gilly tends to make the rabbit tooth face).

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David’s imdb page - [David Wright - IMDb](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1807216/?ref_=fn_nm_nm_1)

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-seaon-33-starts-tonight-also-re-tar/766528/35 "2016-09-29T05:41:07Z")

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9/28 show:

Somewhat surprised Paul was okay so fast, and it was just dehydration. He couldn’t feel his hands!

Big boo to the boot, I was hoping Mari would stick around for awhile. Don’t really get why Michaela, Will and Hannah changed their minds after they were the ones who initiated the idea of voting out Figgy. If Hannah’s decision angst at TC is any indication, she does not have the mental/emotional chops for this game.

Lucy better watch her back…

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-seaon-33-starts-tonight-also-re-tar/766528/36 "2016-09-29T13:57:52Z")

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How does one seal a coconut after putting a Hidden Immunity Idol in it?

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> [@AlsoNamedBort](#):
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> I would say that Jeff is the most powerful reality show host. It’s been clear in the past that he does have the authority to make decisions on the fly at challenges and tribals.

Yes, Jeff is a producer/show-runner, not just a host. He’s probably the most powerful guy on set in the actual day-to-day work - location scouting, casting, challenge design and construction, etc.–he’s got supervision over all those areas. I’m sure Mark Burnett can overrule him when he wishes, but I don’t think he has much to do with running the show anymore these days.

Still on the fence about this season. The generational labels are bogus, but the theme rhetoric usually lets up after the first few episodes so I’ll wait that out.

Kind of rooting for underdog David…hoping he turns out to be a Cirie-type, who discovers that he’s capable of so much more than he knows. Am developing a serious crush on Ken, the insecure supermodel who is his partner.

Bummed about the boot…really liked Mari.

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-seaon-33-starts-tonight-also-re-tar/766528/38 "2016-09-29T15:15:01Z")

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> [@notfrommensa](#):
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> How does one seal a coconut after putting a Hidden Immunity Idol in it?

It was a coconut husk, so they sliced it open with a saw or dremel tool, removed the coconut inside, put the idol in and glued it back together. If you look closely when he first picks it up and when he smashes it with a rock, you can see the seam.

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-seaon-33-starts-tonight-also-re-tar/766528/39 "2016-09-29T15:26:48Z")

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My big wish is for a twist that gets Hannah and David both eaten by sharks.

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> [@Dag\_Otto](#):
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> Close, but you need to add in some [Moby](https://www.google.com/search?q=moby&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwieuNP4j6bPAhVK72MKHf2bBNcQ_AUICSgC&biw=1920&bih=926).
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> 50% scrawny Seth Macfarlane/50% Moby

“Scrawny” is an understatement. That is one tiny, under-fed individual – and it’s only day 3. :eek:

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