# "Survivor" Season 29 Starts Sept 24, 2014

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 13, 2014, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-29-starts-sept-24-2014/698429 "2014-09-13T22:57:27Z")\
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**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2014, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-29-starts-sept-24-2014/698429/42 "2014-09-27T17:53:36Z")

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> [@McDeath\_the\_Mad](#):
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> I’m always in for Survivor! It’s funny, everytime John Rocker started talking he sounded just like Kenny powers from “East Bound and Down”, he was just missing a mullet!

Pretty sure the Kenny Powers character was based on Rocker.

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**Author:** ![Charlie\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4bbf92/32.png) [@Charlie\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Wayne)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2014, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-29-starts-sept-24-2014/698429/43 "2014-09-27T22:35:23Z")

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I started watching about half way through and one of the first things I saw was Nadiya talking, “Yaketty, Yaketty, Yaketty”. She gave me a headache after about one minute.

I turned to my wife and said, “There is your first boot.”

It was the first time I ever got that correct. But I think her sister could wind up going very far. They don’t seem very much alike. Specifically, her sister doesn’t seem anywhere near as annoying as Nadiya seems to be.

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2014, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-29-starts-sept-24-2014/698429/44 "2014-09-28T12:06:30Z")

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I thought it was hilarious that people couldn’t spell her name when she’s wearing a necklace with her name on it. Hell, one person couldn’t even _remember_ her name.

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**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2014, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-29-starts-sept-24-2014/698429/45 "2014-09-29T18:58:54Z")

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> [@randwill](#):
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> Regarding the stuff Jeff always says. There was something written about that somewhere at some point (!) that indicated that this is a deliberate choice made by the show. Apparently viewers are comforted by hearing the exact same thing all the time.

And I always cringe over the redundant “Once again, Immunity is back up for grabs!”

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2014, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-29-starts-sept-24-2014/698429/46 "2014-09-29T19:39:18Z")

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> [@Spoke](#):
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> Pretty sure the Kenny Powers character was based on Rocker.

Yup. Although when I see Rocker, I always think of those Conan bits they used to do about him.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2014, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-29-starts-sept-24-2014/698429/47 "2014-10-02T01:40:28Z")

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Not sure if we’re doing a season thread or individual episodes. I’ll post this here for now, and if a new episode thread appears I’ll copy & paste it over.  
I don’t understand why the winner of the duels doesn’t just send themself to exile island. It’s a day or two you get to spend with your loved one without any distractions, plus you can both benefit from HII clues. (Which are ALWAYS on exile island.) Especially if it’s your significant other.

Man, John Rocker is surprisingly worthless in challenges. Plus he’s kind of a dick. Hopefully he gets voted off next.

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**Author:** ![tsm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/db5fbb/32.png) [@tsm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tsm)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2014, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-29-starts-sept-24-2014/698429/48 "2014-10-02T03:14:01Z")

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I’ve thought that too, but I’m guessing they’re not allowed to. Of course, we don’t know because Probst hasn’t mentioned it, but that’s my guess.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2014, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-29-starts-sept-24-2014/698429/49 "2014-10-02T03:20:15Z")

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Jesus, I always knew John Rocker was a dick but he proves it with everything he says and does.

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2014, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-29-starts-sept-24-2014/698429/50 "2014-10-02T14:34:13Z")

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New Survivor Drinking game. Guaranteed to get you drunk

Drink a shot every time Probst says “Loved One” or a there is a Talking Head about a Loved One getting voted out.

I would rather have returning contestants and redemption island than the manufactured drama of Blood vs Water.

And yes, John Rocker is a douche bag. “Worse than Losing? Losing to a girl!”

Considering his past statements, I wonder what he would said if he had lost to Reed? (or is it Josh?)

How do you lose your flint?

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2014, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-29-starts-sept-24-2014/698429/51 "2014-10-02T14:42:43Z")

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> [@notfrommensa](#):
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> How do you lose your flint?

That’s my question. Hang it from a tree limb. Put it in your pack. Stash it **somewhere**. Just losing it is stupid in the extreme.

The parent/child dynamic is proving to be deadly to the parent.

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2014, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-29-starts-sept-24-2014/698429/52 "2014-10-02T14:53:43Z")

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My wife and I have done our traditional “pick the winner” as we always do on _Survivor_ and _Big Brother_ and I’ve picked Jeremy to go all the way! The pick that goes further gets $5 from the loser.

I had to look at [Survivor 41 Cast: Official Pics, Bios, and more from CBS](http://www.cbs.com/shows/survivor/cast/) to see that she’s picked one of the brothers [Christy](http://www.cbs.com/shows/survivor/cast/214917/) and I’m thinking Alec :dubious: but they so seldom have the names in the captions that I’m not sure.

I almost went with Keith but I figured older good-ole-boys don’t last that long. Has anybody else noticed the resemblance of his son Wes to the Everly Brothers?

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2014, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-29-starts-sept-24-2014/698429/53 "2014-10-02T15:02:24Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> That’s my question. Hang it from a tree limb. Put it in your pack. Stash it **somewhere**. Just losing it is stupid in the extreme.
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> The parent/child dynamic is proving to be deadly to the parent.

I was thinking that someone HANTZed\* the Flint, but since their was no Talking Head owning up to hiding it, the flint must have been truly lost.  
\*To HANTZ: To sabotage the tribe

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2014, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-29-starts-sept-24-2014/698429/54 "2014-10-02T15:05:32Z")

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On the other hand: Rocker and Jeremy made some kind of pact to look out for each other’s loved ones, and Rocker seems to be taking that seriously (indicating some primitive sense of honor)…he’s genuinely concerned that Jeremy will blame him for Val shooting herself in the foot.

They keep saying “flint” but they’re not actually using flint and steel, right? It’s one of those [magnesium bars](http://www.rei.com/product/407152/magnesium-fire-starting-tool) that readily emit showers of sparks?

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2014, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-29-starts-sept-24-2014/698429/55 "2014-10-02T15:25:46Z")

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Correct. And none of them really know how to use it properly.

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2014, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-29-starts-sept-24-2014/698429/56 "2014-10-02T16:05:56Z")

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Yes, Val is the one that screwed the pooch with her claim to have a Hidden Immunity Idol. The guys wanted to Smoke it out.

I do think Rocker intended on keeping Val safe. He is still a douche-bag though.

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2014, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-29-starts-sept-24-2014/698429/57 "2014-10-02T16:53:15Z")

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> [@notfrommensa](#):
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> Yes, Val is the one that screwed the pooch with her claim to have a Hidden Immunity Idol. The guys wanted to Smoke it out.
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> I do think Rocker intended on keeping Val safe. He is still a douche-bag though.

My thought on Rocker. I get the impression he’s trying (in vain) to redeem his reputation. The fun will be seeing if Jeremy will buy his version of why sweet li’l ole Val got shitcanned. I sense that Jeremy may have had a dose or two of Val along the way! 😃 He might even believe Rocker.

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**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2014, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-29-starts-sept-24-2014/698429/58 "2014-10-02T18:36:02Z")

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So, did anyone else think that Baylor totally scammed her mother during the immunity challenge? The tears stopped immediately after she won the point, and her “injury” was quickly forgotten. Well played!

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2014, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-29-starts-sept-24-2014/698429/59 "2014-10-02T18:41:19Z")

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> [@Wheelz](#):
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> So, did anyone else think that Baylor totally scammed her mother during the immunity challenge? The tears stopped immediately after she won the point, and her “injury” was quickly forgotten. Well played!

Yep. Total brat!

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2014, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-29-starts-sept-24-2014/698429/60 "2014-10-02T20:16:44Z")

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Speaking of losing the flint, unless someone deliberately threw it in the water, it’s still sitting right there. I would have adamantly refused Jeff’s offer, and told the tribe that we would organize a search to find it. If an exhaustive search doesn’t turn it up, the only explanation is deliberate sabotage, like J’Tia and the rice.

Didn’t they give J’Tia’s tribe more rice?

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**Author:** ![Charlie\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4bbf92/32.png) [@Charlie\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Wayne)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2014, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-29-starts-sept-24-2014/698429/61 "2014-10-02T20:46:01Z")

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I’d like to suggest that one of the monkeys probably stole the flint.

It is well known that some monkeys are thieves and scavengers. They love to steal small shiny objects and then hide them somewhere.

If that tribe continues to leave their flint lying around in the open, the new one will prob get stolen too.

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