# "Survivor" Season 29 Starts Sept 24, 2014 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 13, 2014, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-29-starts-sept-24-2014/698429 "2014-09-13T22:57:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2014, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-29-starts-sept-24-2014/698429/162 "2014-11-06T15:07:34Z")
> [@singular1](#): > > Oops - I thought you meant the hidden immunity idol. Yeah, that Individual Immunity was neutered. I think if they hadn’t lost two people right at the start of the game they would’ve still gone to tribal. They have in the past. But the schedule has already been messed up by the initial withdrawal. Who did they lose at the beginning of the game, that messed up the schedule? ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2014, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-29-starts-sept-24-2014/698429/163 "2014-11-06T15:16:43Z")
Another couple, two women who dropped out at the last second with a medical issue. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2014, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-29-starts-sept-24-2014/698429/164 "2014-11-06T15:52:12Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > Actually, he has (had?) both. He still has a HII. :smack: I completely forgot about that! ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2014, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-29-starts-sept-24-2014/698429/165 "2014-11-06T17:06:30Z")
Quick question – I spaced on watching last night. Worth watching, or will Dalton Ross’s recap suffice? ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2014, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-29-starts-sept-24-2014/698429/166 "2014-11-06T17:11:24Z")
> [@twickster](#): > > Quick question – I spaced on watching last night. Worth watching, or will Dalton Ross’s recap suffice? So-so. Not critical but a few moments. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2014, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-29-starts-sept-24-2014/698429/167 "2014-11-06T17:22:08Z")
Thanks. I’ve got shit to do today, will skate by on the recap. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2014, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-29-starts-sept-24-2014/698429/168 "2014-11-06T17:23:15Z")
Oh wait. The summary of the recap is “Julie conceals food from the rest of the tribe, and then asks to leave the game after they find out.” – think I’ll go ahead and watch. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2014, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-29-starts-sept-24-2014/698429/169 "2014-11-06T18:28:50Z")
God, what a spoiled brat. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2014, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-29-starts-sept-24-2014/698429/170 "2014-11-06T20:20:06Z")
[Jeff speculates](http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/11/06/survivor-jeff-probst-julie-quit/) that she quit, rather than allowing herself to be voted out, so that she could be reunited with her boyfriend faster. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Just\_Ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Ed)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2014, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-29-starts-sept-24-2014/698429/171 "2014-11-06T21:46:59Z")
> [@twickster](#): > > [Jeff speculates](http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/11/06/survivor-jeff-probst-julie-quit/) that she quit, rather than allowing herself to be voted out, so that she could be reunited with her boyfriend faster. Just read that, and I think it makes a lot of sense. Probst cautions that it’s all speculation, but he obviously knows these people pretty well. The important thing is that she would not have been reunited with Rocker if she wasn’t voted out immediately because the _next_ vote-out (i.e. next week) would make the jury, and non-jury vote-outs do not mingle with jury members until it’s all over (which I didn’t know, but I guess makes sense). The interesting thing to me is Probst taking full responsibility for the quitters in the game: > [@](#): > > Personally, I still get frustrated but now it’s directed at myself. We are the ones who put the contestants on the show. We test them, we talk to them, we study their psych reports and then we make a decision to give them one of our very valuable spots. If they quit, it’s on us. But he then continues on to say “We either missed it, or in the case of Julie we anticipated it but put them on anyway. They were always going to quit — it was just a matter of when.” So in Julie’s case, they anticipated (rightly, of course) that she wasn’t going to be able to go the distance, but they must have been gambling on Rocker getting further in the game to keep her around. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2014, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-29-starts-sept-24-2014/698429/172 "2014-11-06T22:00:57Z")
From the linked article: > [@Jeff Probst](#): > > I do think it says much about a person’s drive for life when they voluntarily quit. It’s not someone I want in my foxhole, that’s for sure. What a fucking asshole. I’ve always thought Probst was a dick; this just proves it. You put people in the hardest situation they’ve ever been in, with the ability to walk away at any time, and when the y take it you say it says “much about a person’s drive for life” ? From a guy who usually lives in a fucking hotel while they’re filming and gets chauffered to the 2 hrs a day he actually has to work? Hopefully some veterans read the “foxhole” part and rake him over the coals for it. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2014, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-29-starts-sept-24-2014/698429/173 "2014-11-06T22:40:36Z")
a) It’s a metaphor. b) Lighten up, Francis. c) Probst is right. I wouldn’t want any of the quitters in _my_ foxhole or working for me, that’s for sure.\* \*- Medical evac excepted. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2014, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-29-starts-sept-24-2014/698429/174 "2014-11-06T22:42:46Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > a) It’s a metaphor. > b) Lighten up, Francis. > c) Probst is right. I wouldn’t want any of the quitters in _my_ foxhole or working for me, that’s for sure.\* > \*- Medical evac excepted. I agree. I mean, things like medical aside, of course. Jeff makes a good point. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2014, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-29-starts-sept-24-2014/698429/175 "2014-11-07T00:41:41Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > What a fucking asshole. I’ve always thought Probst was a dick; this just proves it. You put people in the hardest situation they’ve ever been in, with the ability to walk away at any time, and when the y take it you say it says “much about a person’s drive for life” ? From a guy who usually lives in a fucking hotel while they’re filming and gets chauffered to the 2 hrs a day he actually has to work? Hopefully some veterans read the “foxhole” part and rake him over the coals for it. Nothing about what he said makes him an asshole. He’s right. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2014, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-29-starts-sept-24-2014/698429/176 "2014-11-07T14:16:48Z")
You guys realize this is a game show, right? I won’t argue that quitting is not a dick move sometimes, but to state that quitting a game that is miserable, and you have no chance of winning, somehow reflects on a person’s moral character is ridiculous. Especially coming from a multi-milionaire game show host. I bet you guys complain when you’ve got 85% of the territories in Risk, and your opponent wanders off for a beer instead of watching you roll dice for 45 minutes. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2014, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-29-starts-sept-24-2014/698429/177 "2014-11-07T14:59:45Z")
You’re right - it’s a game show. That they voluntarily signed up for and went through all sorts of crap to get on and play. The pussies then quit rather than see through\*\* what they signed up for.\*\* No fucking sympathy. I think they ought to set up an Exile Island for quitters that just dumps them in the middle of nowhere to really survive on their own - no cameras, no rescue. _Then_ let people quit if they want. She also didn’t quit because she couldn’t win. She quit because she couldn’t stand to be away from her asshole for another minute. Fuck that! She’d better get used to being apart from him, because he is going to dump her sooner or later. Anybody who can’t be apart from a loved one for less than a month for a chance at a million dollars doesn’t love them enough. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2014, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-29-starts-sept-24-2014/698429/178 "2014-11-07T23:11:38Z")
Not that I could care less about Julie, and I usually hate it when people quit, but yeah – it _is_ just a game. She was at least self-aware enough to realize she had zero chance of winning. What she _did_ have was the power to screw up some other peoples’ games by taking her vote away. I’m convinced this was a very big reason she did what she did, which actually kind of deserves some props. Quitting was a _strategic move_! That said, I was disappointed that we didn’t get a TC as well. It would have been a gas watching everybody scramble on short notice. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2014, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-29-starts-sept-24-2014/698429/179 "2014-11-07T23:35:16Z")
> [@Wheelz](#): > > Not that I could care less about Julie, and I usually hate it when people quit, but yeah – it _is_ just a game. She was at least self-aware enough to realize she had zero chance of winning. First place, maybe, but each week you stay wins you more money. > [@muldoonthief](#): > > I bet you guys complain when you’ve got 85% of the territories in Risk, and your opponent wanders off for a beer instead of watching you roll dice for 45 minutes. Wandering off shows much less moral character than conceding the game. It’s called sportsmanship. Of course, making the winner roll it out for 45 minutes shows even less sportsmanship than wandering off. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-29-starts-sept-24-2014/698429.md?page=8)