# Survivor Season 32 -- Is it too soon to care?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [January 22, 2016, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-32-is-it-too-soon-to-care/743911 "2016-01-22T21:51:11Z")\
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**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2016, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-32-is-it-too-soon-to-care/743911/181 "2016-04-08T00:46:26Z")

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Nick being voted off is the highlight of this season. He’s not as handsome as he thinks he is. And his personality detracts from his attractiveness, as evidenced by the fact that he alone led to his ouster.

Deb is a hoot, but she needs some calories.

The previews for next week look interesting.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2016, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-32-is-it-too-soon-to-care/743911/182 "2016-04-08T03:11:59Z")

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I think Tai voted for Kyle Jason because he wanted Scot all to himself.

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**Author:** ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2016, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-32-is-it-too-soon-to-care/743911/183 "2016-04-08T03:29:06Z")

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Tai also knows that Jason has an idol.

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**Author:** ![magnusblitz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@magnusblitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magnusblitz)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2016, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-32-is-it-too-soon-to-care/743911/184 "2016-04-08T05:13:24Z")

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According to [Nick’s interview](http://www.ew.com/article/2016/04/07/survivor-kaoh-rong-nick-maiorano), Tai was involved in the discussion among the women and Joe about who to vote for. They discussed voting for Jason, but then decided to stick with Nick because Debbie said “Joe is already locked in on Nick. Joe won’t remember who to vote for so we cant do that now.”

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**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2016, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-32-is-it-too-soon-to-care/743911/185 "2016-04-08T15:54:43Z")

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I have ZERO respect for anyone who steps out of a challenge for food. No matter how safe you think you are, no matter how little chance you think you have of winning the challenge, it just seems like the wrong way to play the game. I’m surprised we didn’t see any of the other players calling out those who did it. (It may have happened, but we didn’t see it.)

Even so, the Nick blindside was one of the most satisfying TC votes in a long time. At least he had enough self-awareness to realize he was arrogant and overconfident in his closing remarks, unlike Peter.

It truly surprises me that somebody with an autistic child could be such a blatant bully, gleefully talking about things like “stuffing geeks in lockers.” You’d think his experience would have taught him some empathy. It actually makes me like Jason LESS, which I didn’t think was possible.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2016, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-32-is-it-too-soon-to-care/743911/186 "2016-04-08T16:09:24Z")

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> [@StarvingButStrong](#):
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> I found Scott’s try for sympathy over helping his mother rather eye-roll worthy.

No kidding. I just looked it up and in his 11 season NBA career (1997-2008) he had a total total earnings of $38 million. If he’s blown all that another million ain’t gonna go far.

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2016, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-32-is-it-too-soon-to-care/743911/187 "2016-04-08T18:57:50Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> On a tangent, I’m starting to think Joe has pretty much checked out already. He did and said pretty much nothing last night.

Which means he’ll probably get dragged to the very end. He’s not a threat to anyone. They pretty much lost the reward because he couldn’t hold up the post.

Also, no mention about Tai blabbing about the Super Idol? “Someone told me about it.” If everyone didn’t know he had the idol, they do now.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2016, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-32-is-it-too-soon-to-care/743911/188 "2016-04-08T22:35:21Z")

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Mild hijack:

[I may be late to the party, but Skupin from season 2(and one other season) is under child pornography and other criminal charges.](http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/oakland-county/2016/04/08/survivor-star-micheal-skupin-jailed/82789116/)

I met him just after season 2. He had serious burns in Australia, but healed very quickly.

Edit: The other charges are a Ponzi scheme he was running.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2016, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-32-is-it-too-soon-to-care/743911/189 "2016-04-08T23:03:59Z")

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> [@Wheelz](#):
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> I have ZERO respect for anyone who steps out of a challenge for food. No matter how safe you think you are, no matter how little chance you think you have of winning the challenge, it just seems like the wrong way to play the game. I’m surprised we didn’t see any of the other players calling out those who did it. (It may have happened, but we didn’t see it.)

Not necessarily. They’re pretty goddamn calorie-deprived at this point, which is affecting both their physical and mental functioning.

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2016, 11:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-32-is-it-too-soon-to-care/743911/190 "2016-04-09T11:25:45Z")

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> [@Wheelz](#):
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> I have ZERO respect for anyone who steps out of a challenge for food. No matter how safe you think you are, no matter how little chance you think you have of winning the challenge, it just seems like the wrong way to play the game. I’m surprised we didn’t see any of the other players calling out those who did it. (It may have happened, but we didn’t see it.)
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> Even so, the Nick blindside was one of the most satisfying TC votes in a long time. At least he had enough self-awareness to realize he was arrogant and overconfident in his closing remarks, unlike Peter.
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> It truly surprises me that somebody with an autistic child could be such a blatant bully, gleefully talking about things like “stuffing geeks in lockers.” You’d think his experience would have taught him some empathy. It actually makes me like Jason LESS, which I didn’t think was possible.

They definitely want to stir up stuff by having the food there for people to step out. I’m assuming they didn’t have much in the way of comments to work with.

I don’t really blame people too bad for stepping out. Who I felt sorry for was the one young woman who couldn’t make it until Jeff came back with the food! That was rough.

And I have an autistic daughter the exact age of Jason’s (kindergarten age, anyway). It was kind of surreal to hear him say all these things I am really sympathetic to, after I had already fully categorized him as a douchecanoe.

> [@StarvingButStrong](#):
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> I found Scott’s try for sympathy over helping his mother rather eye-roll worthy.

Right, like someone else said, an additional million when you’ve made $38 million…no.

> [@magnusblitz](#):
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> Kinda wonder what was up with Tai’s vote for Jason… could be he was clued into the girl’s plan, but still wanted to be able to say to Nick later “I didn’t vote for you” or something.

Yeah, it’s always weird when you see a random single vote for someone.

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**Author:** ![magnusblitz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@magnusblitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magnusblitz)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2016, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-32-is-it-too-soon-to-care/743911/191 "2016-04-09T20:52:23Z")

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I 100% do not blame someone like Scot or Jason for stepping down out of that challenge. They had zero chance to win - in 32 seasons I have never seen a larger guy win the “stand on a small ledge” challenge, it’s ALWAYS a tiny person. So yeah, in their shoes I would step down for food too. If anything, I would’ve criticized them for NOT stepping down.

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2016, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-32-is-it-too-soon-to-care/743911/192 "2016-04-09T21:23:32Z")

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Good points. Relatedly, I had trouble understanding why Jeff was so astonished that Tai won the challenge. What was that about?

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2016, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-32-is-it-too-soon-to-care/743911/193 "2016-04-09T22:11:56Z")

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But Julia stepped down like five seconds before she could have gotten food for doing it. She claimed on Twitter after the show that she literally could not stay on longer.

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**Author:** ![Chicken\_Fingers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Chicken\_Fingers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chicken_Fingers)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2016, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-32-is-it-too-soon-to-care/743911/194 "2016-04-10T13:24:10Z")

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Is it us, or have they cranked up the volume on the “background” music and sound effects this season and last? We can’t hear what anyone says anymore.

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**Post date:** [April 10, 2016, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-32-is-it-too-soon-to-care/743911/195 "2016-04-10T18:49:54Z")

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> [@Chicken\_Fingers](#):
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> Is it us, or have they cranked up the volume on the “background” music and sound effects this season and last? We can’t hear what anyone says anymore.

That kind of thing annoys me, but so far this season I haven’t noticed anything.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2016, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-32-is-it-too-soon-to-care/743911/196 "2016-04-10T22:49:24Z")

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> [@muldoonthief](#):
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> Survivor recapper Dalton Ross [asked Jeff that very question](http://www.ew.com/article/2016/03/31/survivor-jeff-probst-kaoh-rong-medical-evacuation) - Jeff said everyone does get checked out by medical before and after each challenge and tribal council. And after the challenge where they had multiple problems, they started checking them every day on the beach as well. So the whole boat arrives & Dr Rupert makes a decision scene was basically staged for the cameras - they had already decided to pull Neal at that point based on the previous off-camera exam.

I am not entirely sure, I think it more that Dr Rupert & the Producers had decided it was likely they have to pull Neal, but not 100%.

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**Author:** ![magnusblitz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@magnusblitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magnusblitz)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2016, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-32-is-it-too-soon-to-care/743911/197 "2016-04-10T23:46:34Z")

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> [@SlackerInc](#):
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> Good points. Relatedly, I had trouble understanding why Jeff was so astonished that Tai won the challenge. What was that about?

Tai was my predicted winner going into the challenge, but during it, he was wiggling around in pain the whole time while Cydney was just a block of stone. So by the time it was just the two of them left, Cydney definitely looked like she was going to pull it out.

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**Post date:** [April 11, 2016, 9:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-32-is-it-too-soon-to-care/743911/198 "2016-04-11T09:27:05Z")

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Yeah, I think that’s just his personality.

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**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2016, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-32-is-it-too-soon-to-care/743911/199 "2016-04-11T12:09:27Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> I am not entirely sure, I think it more that Dr Rupert & the Producers had decided it was likely they have to pull Neal, but not 100%.

There’s no way to know for certain, but here’s an [interview with Neal](http://www.ew.com/article/2016/03/31/survivor-neal-insidetv-podcast-norman-reedus-rachel-bloom) where he says as soon as he saw the boat pull up with Jeff, he knew he was being pulled. Apparently a doctor had examined him off camera earlier in the day, and drained some of the pus, and he thinks that when it was decided. In his opinion, Jeff showing up with Dr. Rupert was pure theater.

And added interesting point - when they pulled him, Jeff forgot to tell everyone else there wouldn’t be a TC, so he had to go back in the boat and tell them.

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**Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-32-is-it-too-soon-to-care/743911/200 "2016-04-12T14:04:03Z")

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was tai outing the super idol stupidity or part of the game plan?

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