# Survivor -Season 42 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** reality-or-game-show\ **Created:** [March 10, 2022, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-42/960802 "2022-03-10T06:43:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2022, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-42/960802/41 "2022-04-16T04:59:23Z")
I’m not crazy about the setup whereby there are 12 players left, but only 5 that can be voted for. Of those 5, I thought Lydia was the most expendable, from a viewer’s standpoint. I had nothing against her though, and several of the 7 immune players deserved to go much more. I predict that Tori will be this season’s player that everyone wants to vote out, but somehow never gets voted out. She’ll get to the final and get no votes. I hope I’m wrong though, as she bugs the crap out of me. Maryanne is annoying in an adorable way, but Tori is just _annoying_. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2022, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-42/960802/42 "2022-04-16T06:12:08Z")
> [@Wheelz](#): > > I hope I’m wrong though, as she bugs the crap out of me. Maryanne is annoying in an adorable way, but Tori is just _annoying_ . For me, it is Chanelle, she just constantly lies. ---
**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2022, 11:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-42/960802/43 "2022-04-16T11:29:45Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > They did that **FUCKING** stupid “game changer” thing again. There is no real choice. Of course the dude is gonna pick the choice that gives him immunity. I agree that it’s stupid, especially as presented this season. Last season, it was kind of a “fuck you for sending me away”. This time at least they were warned whoever was send away was going to be offered a game changing deal. I’m not defending the game changer thing, but they could have chosen better. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2022, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-42/960802/44 "2022-04-16T14:07:51Z")
I think I’d rather the person sent away is both immune and doesn’t vote; they essentially just sit out the next tribal council. And Jeff tells the group before picking the person to go that they will be immune and that they won’t vote. Then that person could make a real decision about changing the outcome since it won’t affect them. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2022, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-42/960802/45 "2022-04-16T19:49:59Z")
While that is better, when a team wins, they should get the reward, not the losing team. Otherwise, why exert yourself? ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2022, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-42/960802/46 "2022-04-16T21:54:33Z")
I don’t like the Hourglass twist, but if they are going to have it, there should be some consequence for the contestant like lose Vote in the next two tribal councils or losing the right to play in the next immunity challenge where he/she is at risk. Last season, I heard there was a lot of blowback by Danny (the football player). Probst specifically said that this was an immunity challenge last season (and this season, which Danny claimed (rightfully IMO) was a lie. Most of the complaining by Danny hit the cutting room floor. ---
**Author:** ![Noelq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/noelq/32/16438_2.png) [@Noelq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Noelq)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2022, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-42/960802/47 "2022-04-28T15:25:32Z")
Worst tribal ever. Just awful. I’m not going to say any more until I stop being mad. ---
**Author:** ![Fir\_na\_tine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a587f6/32.png) [@Fir\_na\_tine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fir_na_tine)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2022, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-42/960802/48 "2022-04-29T12:50:26Z")
Well, we know who is going to win this season. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2022, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-42/960802/49 "2022-04-29T13:58:52Z")
Just like how Shan won last season? ---
**Author:** ![Dag\_Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@Dag\_Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dag_Otto)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2022, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-42/960802/50 "2022-04-29T14:35:41Z")
I understand why the second tribal went the way it did, and don’t fault any of the players for it. I do note that had the first tribal gone the way everyone expected it to, a gay man would have been on the bench and everyone would have been just fine with that. Also, if the players knew why Rocks was blindsided, they would understand that he deserved what happen to him. And, of course, the order of the final Tribal councils mattered. From just a pure play point of view, it was pretty good: First Tribal - great blindside. Second Tribal - two idols flushed. Edit: I was amazed that Jonathan didn’t realize that flushing one idol would flush them both when he told Mary Anne that she would be the decoy. Even when this was explained to him, he didn’t get it. What a maroon. ---
**Author:** ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2022, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-42/960802/51 "2022-04-29T15:25:37Z")
> [@Noelq](#): > > Worst tribal ever. Just awful. I’m not going to say any more until I stop being mad. My husband and I were talking during it, about how it seemed that the group of black players was actually one of the largest there. At the start of the night I think there were four black contestants. Out of ten total, that barely qualifies as a ‘minority.’ How many different smaller ‘minorities’ could you have pointed to? There’s one asian man. There’s one muslim. There’s one older person. ---
**Author:** ![Noelq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/noelq/32/16438_2.png) [@Noelq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Noelq)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2022, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-42/960802/52 "2022-04-29T16:23:12Z")
Thank you for stating it so calmly. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2022, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-42/960802/53 "2022-04-29T16:54:05Z")
> [@StarvingButStrong](#): > > At the start of the night I think there were four black contestants. Out of ten total, that barely qualifies as a ‘minority.’ They weren’t talking about being a minority of Survivor castaways but being a minority in general. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2022, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-42/960802/54 "2022-04-29T23:41:54Z")
> [@Dag\_Otto](#): > > Edit: I was amazed that Jonathan didn’t realize that flushing one idol would flush them both when he told Mary Anne that she would be the decoy. Even when this was explained to him, he didn’t get it. What a maroon. Or that was his plan. Note that two idols got flushed, so his plan worked. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2022, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-42/960802/55 "2022-04-29T23:44:51Z")
I think he understood, but he was trying to hide the fact that he wants Maryanne gone. ---
**Author:** ![Jebbilene](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jebbilene/32/3414_2.png) [@Jebbilene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jebbilene)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2022, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-42/960802/56 "2022-05-01T22:14:41Z")
> [@Fir\_na\_tine](#): > > Well, we know who is going to win this season. Omar, right? ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2022, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-42/960802/57 "2022-05-01T23:24:15Z")
> [@Fir\_na\_tine](#): > > Well, we know who is going to win this season I don’t get it. Do we? ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2022, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-42/960802/58 "2022-05-01T23:25:24Z")
Well, I think last season was fixed. The clear best player got no votes. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2022, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-42/960802/59 "2022-05-01T23:42:12Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Well, I think last season was fixed. The clear best player got no votes Is there any evidence for that? I’ve never even heard this theory. ---
**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2022, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-42/960802/60 "2022-05-02T05:35:34Z")
I am certain that neither Chanelle nor Rocksroy getting voted out had anything at all to do with their race. I’m also certain that Drea’s reaction to seeing two black people on the jury was genuine, and I can’t blame anyone for feeling what they feel. It’s a complicated thing. I’m a white cisgender straight male, which kinda doesn’t give me the right to argue with any minority regarding their perceptions of bias and prejudice. I can’t truly understand what they go through, but I try to empathize. I am curious about something Drea said though, which was essentially “black people always get voted out early.” Are there any statistics that bear this out? I can think of several who’ve reached the final four and at least one winner. Anyway, getting back to the game, I am _not_ mad that Tori is out. Didn’t like her. Also not mad that Drea’s idol is out of play. However uncomfortable that tribal council was to watch, I didn’t mind the outcome at all. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-42/960802.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-season-42/960802.md?page=4)