# Survivor: South Pacific cast revealed(spoilers....sort of) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 22, 2011, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-cast-revealed-spoilers-sort-of/593595 "2011-08-22T01:10:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2011, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-cast-revealed-spoilers-sort-of/593595/21 "2011-08-23T03:49:01Z")
[Here is a good video showing all of the contestants.](http://tv.yahoo.com/show/47227/videos/26378266) It looks like a good cast to me. Yes, a lot of young, good looking ones, but that is preferable to the usual 70 year old who gets kicked off third when he figures out that “this was a lot harder than I thought it would be.” I also am not of the belief that anyone good-looking is necessarily dumb and/or useless. I don’t have a problem either with returning characters, as long as they are good ones, as these two are. It adds an interesting dynamic to the game, unlike the awful Redemption Island concept. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2011, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-cast-revealed-spoilers-sort-of/593595/22 "2011-08-23T13:26:31Z")
I prefer the alpha type personalities to play the game. I would rather see 16 “Boston Robs” than 16 players like the two gals that Boston Rob carried to finals. Remember those two? I remember their butts but I do not remember their names. ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2011, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-cast-revealed-spoilers-sort-of/593595/23 "2011-08-23T13:47:43Z")
Will Nellie Forbush or Emile de Becque be there? ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2011, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-cast-revealed-spoilers-sort-of/593595/24 "2011-08-23T13:57:58Z")
They really need to go back to shuffling the tribes at least once before the merge. Preferably before any one tribe gets an overwhelming advantage. Pagongings are boring. ---
**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2011, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-cast-revealed-spoilers-sort-of/593595/25 "2011-08-23T14:43:57Z")
> [@RealityChuck](#): > > Will Nellie Forbush or Emile de Becque be there? No, but if we are lucky the IJN may attack during filming. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-cast-revealed-spoilers-sort-of/593595/26 "2011-08-24T14:34:14Z")
It’s [official](http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/08/24/survivor-south-pacific-ozzy-coach-return/)– Coach and Ozzy are the returnees. ---
**Author:** ![CapnPitt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/edb3f5/32.png) [@CapnPitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CapnPitt)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-cast-revealed-spoilers-sort-of/593595/27 "2011-08-24T15:09:43Z")
Good lord, really? Coach: pretentious jackass. I hope he has some minor and fully recoverable injury but it’s enough to get him out on medical week one. Ozzy: Amazing player, but he’s had his chances. Could be they want to give him a win like I think they wanted to give Rob the win (But to Rob’s credit, I think he played _the_ perfect game last season). ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-cast-revealed-spoilers-sort-of/593595/28 "2011-08-24T15:40:51Z")
Well, as it says in the linked article, what they have in common is zero ability to play the social game. Alas. I have a massive crush on Ozzy. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-cast-revealed-spoilers-sort-of/593595/29 "2011-08-24T15:57:14Z")
> [@randwill](#): > > I was surprised when I checked out Coach’s (Benjamin Wade) Wikipedia page. They always referred to him as a soccer coach on Survivor, but he is also a classical music composer and symphony conductor. He should insist on being called “Maestro!” ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-cast-revealed-spoilers-sort-of/593595/30 "2011-08-25T00:05:29Z")
> [@twickster](#): > > Well, as it says in the linked article, what they have in common is zero ability to play the social game. Alas. I have a massive crush on Ozzy. That is just bizarre. While Ozzy got voted out with both Idols, he didn’t really suck at the social game. He was the kinda guy that everybody liked and had it good with everyone. He just got cocky because of that. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-cast-revealed-spoilers-sort-of/593595/31 "2011-08-25T13:20:32Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > That is just bizarre. While Ozzy got voted out with both Idols, he didn’t really suck at the social game. He was the kinda guy that everybody liked and had it good with everyone. He just got cocky because of that. But just being good with everyone and well liked by everyone isn’t playing a good social game, _especially_ if you’re a challenge monster like Ozzy. All it does is get a target painted on your back by the actual social players who create a strong alliance with a good strategy. That’s what I think Probst means by “social game” - the ability to work with an alliance or alliances to advance your own cause, including the jury vote. So Russell and Ozzy both sucked at the social game, but for very different reasons - Russell made sure that almost every member of the jury hated him passionately, while Ozzy just tried to coast on his challenge talent and general likability. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-cast-revealed-spoilers-sort-of/593595/32 "2011-08-25T13:30:44Z")
I’ll watch to see Whitney Duncan. I like her music. Also I’ve been following news on her cousin Holly Bobo. Holly was abducted from her parents home in April, and still not found. Whitney blogged that she’ll be wearing a pink bracelet for Holly on Survivor. I imagine they’ll mention it sometime during the show. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-cast-revealed-spoilers-sort-of/593595/33 "2011-08-25T18:17:24Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > But just being good with everyone and well liked by everyone isn’t playing a good social game, _especially_ if you’re a challenge monster like Ozzy. All it does is get a target painted on your back by the actual social players who create a strong alliance with a good strategy. That’s what I think Probst means by “social game” - the ability to work with an alliance or alliances to advance your own cause, including the jury vote. > > So Russell and Ozzy both sucked at the social game, but for very different reasons - Russell made sure that almost every member of the jury hated him passionately, while Ozzy just tried to coast on his challenge talent and general likability. But wasn’t he part of a strong alliance? He just got blindsided in the end. While he wasn’t a social game master, like say Parvati, to say he is as bad as Coach is just ridiculous. I have a feeling that they already decided on Coach to come back, but they either couldn’t decide who else should come back or couldn’t get who they wanted (Phil?) so they just picked Ozzy at random. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-cast-revealed-spoilers-sort-of/593595/34 "2011-08-25T18:21:56Z")
Oh, lord! Coach and Phil on the same island at the same time? The world would shift and the seas would boil! ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-cast-revealed-spoilers-sort-of/593595/35 "2011-08-26T01:56:46Z")
Ugh. Not “Coach”. And not RI again. This show has gone down the tubes. What a shame. It’s the only reality show I watch(ed). ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-cast-revealed-spoilers-sort-of/593595/36 "2011-08-26T02:13:47Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Ugh. Not “Coach”. And not RI again. RI was probably a done deal. I imagine this season was well in the works before the last season aired. Hopefully they get rid of it next season. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-cast-revealed-spoilers-sort-of/593595/37 "2011-09-14T15:30:07Z")
_ **BUMP** _ Survivor-South Pacific Debuts tonight with a 90 minute episode. Coach and Ozzy are back. Uh oh. Hopefully these cast members watched Boston Rob win last time. But probably they will be star-struck. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-cast-revealed-spoilers-sort-of/593595/38 "2011-09-14T16:02:40Z")
[Coach and Ozzy comment on playing against each other.](http://bit.ly/olyWzz) ---
**Author:** ![Billy\_Baroo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/76d3ee/32.png) [@Billy\_Baroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Billy_Baroo)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-cast-revealed-spoilers-sort-of/593595/39 "2011-09-14T20:25:49Z")
Coach and Ozzy aren’t qualified to touch the hem of Rob’s jock in the social game. Zero chance of a repeat of last season’s “returning hero makes his own fate.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-cast-revealed-spoilers-sort-of/593595.md?page=1)