# Survivor: South Pacific December 14 2011

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [December 15, 2011, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-december-14-2011/606263 "2011-12-15T01:43:27Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2011, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-december-14-2011/606263/1 "2011-12-15T01:43:27Z")

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Dude, Brandon is crazy. We need a season with Philip, Shane, Brandon, Coach, and a few other crazies. Who else should we get?

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2011, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-december-14-2011/606263/2 "2011-12-15T01:46:31Z")

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Oh, come on. He just gave his immunity idol away? Wow.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2011, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-december-14-2011/606263/3 "2011-12-15T01:54:01Z")

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Never give your idol away. Never, folks.

I have to admit, seeing Brandon win at Redemption Sunday would be amazing.

Remember, this ends on Sunday, folks.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Just\_Ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Ed)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2011, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-december-14-2011/606263/4 "2011-12-15T02:04:15Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Dude, Brandon is crazy. We need a season with Philip, Shane, Brandon, Coach, and a few other crazies. Who else should we get?

_Survivor: Asylum_? Interesting as that may be (in the vein of a train wreck), I’m afraid at this point I have to agree with those calling for no more repeat contestants. I want to see how it goes when there are no ready-made mentors in the game.

And Brandon joins Erik(?) in the ignoble pantheon of people who gave away immunity only to be immediately voted off. At this point, I’m torn about the next Redemption challenge, 'cause as much as I’d like to see the upending of Ozzy’s arrogance, I don’t think I can stomach another Brandon victory in God’s name[sup]TM[/sup].

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2011, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-december-14-2011/606263/5 "2011-12-15T02:09:05Z")

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_Survivor: Church_. Bleah.

Brandon just came up against the wall between “We’re going to talk a good game about integrity and honor” and “We want to win a million dollars”.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Just\_Ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Ed)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2011, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-december-14-2011/606263/6 "2011-12-15T02:14:04Z")

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Final Tribal Drinking Game: Take a sip every time someone says:[ul][_]Honor[_]IntegrityValues[/ul]_Finish_ your drink every time someone says _God_, and do a shot and finish your drink whenever someone says _God’s Plan_.

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2011, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-december-14-2011/606263/7 "2011-12-15T02:23:35Z")

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_Survivor: Asylum_ is preferable to _Survivor: Oral Roberts_

Loony Matt from Amazon.  
Crazy Jane from Nicaragua  
Natalie from Fans vs Favorites

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**Author:** ![randwill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@randwill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randwill)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2011, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-december-14-2011/606263/8 "2011-12-15T02:35:31Z")

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[quote=“Just\_Ed, post:6, topic:606263”]

Final Tribal Drinking Game: Take a sip every time someone says:[ul][li]Honor[_]Integrity[_]Values[/ul]_Finish_ your drink every time someone says _God_, and do a shot and finish your drink whenever someone says _God’s Plan_.[/li][/QUOTE]

We’d be passed out and miss seeing who wins.

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**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2011, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-december-14-2011/606263/9 "2011-12-15T03:09:20Z")

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> [@randwill](#):
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> We’d be passed out and miss seeing who wins.

You’d be dead from alcohol poisoning.

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**Author:** ![randwill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@randwill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randwill)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2011, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-december-14-2011/606263/10 "2011-12-15T03:19:14Z")

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I wonder if Probst does an Edward G. Robinson impression? It would have been great if he had given Brandon a, “Where’s your Messiah now, see?” as he descended the Steps of Shame.

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**Author:** ![Drum\_God](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drum_god/32/44_2.png) [@Drum\_God](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drum_God)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2011, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-december-14-2011/606263/11 "2011-12-15T03:24:13Z")

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So, am I right that the fifth vote was God voting Brandon out? If God really intervenes in a TV game show, then I’d say God was a bit of a jerk toward Brandon. The Big Guy has a wicked sense of humor.

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**Author:** ![Ring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Ring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ring)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2011, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-december-14-2011/606263/12 "2011-12-15T04:45:11Z")

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If Ozie wins the final redemption contest and isn’t given a an immunity idol this whole thing sucks canal water.

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**Author:** ![adhemar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@adhemar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adhemar)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2011, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-december-14-2011/606263/13 "2011-12-15T05:09:30Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Dude, Brandon is crazy. We need a season with Philip, Shane, Brandon, Coach, and a few other crazies. Who else should we get?

Russel, Pa Hantz and Brandon all on one season.

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**Author:** ![magnusblitz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@magnusblitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magnusblitz)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2011, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-december-14-2011/606263/14 "2011-12-15T05:57:41Z")

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Man, for the entire show I just kept thinking STOP TALKING ABOUT GOD ALREADY. At least I can be glad that it looks like Sophie and Rick have formed an alliance since they seem the least likely to mention God at the drop of a hat (Sophie definitely is doing a good job of faking it in those prayer circles, I wonder if anyone’s noticed her rolling her eyes at Tribal). Can we just get 16 atheists for next Survivor?

And I suppose that answers my question of _Brandon Hantz: Dumbest Survivor or Genius Survivor?_ I mean, obviously the guy’s a moron, but so many of his moves seemed to work to his advantage because it ruins everyone else’s plans and makes them unsure. I thought this speech to Coach would work great to make sure Coach didn’t vote for him (“I know you won’t vote for me” - if Coach does, then Brandon ruins him at the Jury) but seems Coach is willing to take that risk (and played it well himself by attempting to convince Brandon it’s God’s plan to go to Redemption and take out Ozzy).

Ozzy wins if he gets to the final 3. I was thinking Brandon had no chance, but if he beats Ozzy and makes it to the final 3, and can point that he was the only one who played with Honor and Integrity ™, then he could swing it. Coach probably has the next best chance since he’s seen as the cult leader and no one else has made a move. Albert has zero chance IMO.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2011, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-december-14-2011/606263/15 "2011-12-15T05:58:59Z")

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I hope this is the last _Survivor, Evangelical Island_. I’m an atheist, and this is giving religion a bad name. But really, it’s just tiresome. At least Brandon proved himself to be one of the _Survivor Idiot Hall of Famers_.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2011, 8:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-december-14-2011/606263/16 "2011-12-15T08:57:58Z")

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Man this was god day for some reason. After watching tonight’s Survivor I watched tonight’s Inside the NFL, where the Broncos highlights had Tebow mic’ed for sound. Oofa, these Survivor numbskulls are pikers compared to Tebow.

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**Author:** ![Shark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/73ab20/32.png) [@Shark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shark)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2011, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-december-14-2011/606263/17 "2011-12-15T14:03:40Z")

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Damn, that’s a pretty harsh thing to do God. I mean it wasn’t Coach’s decision, he had to follow God’s orders right.  
I gotta tell ya, I think Coach played that perfectly. All he had to do was tell Brandon that he was going to pray about what to do and in Brandon’s eyes, Coach is absolved of all culpability. He had an easy out. Though frankly, I would have taken Brandon to the end.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2011, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-december-14-2011/606263/18 "2011-12-15T14:09:35Z")

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> [@Shark](#):
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> Though frankly, I would have taken Brandon to the end.

I don’t know…if I were Coach (_shudder_), I’d think that as long as I could deflect primary blame for the ouster (“God told me to!”), Brandon would be an absolutely reliable jury vote for me.

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**Author:** ![Shark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/73ab20/32.png) [@Shark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shark)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2011, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-december-14-2011/606263/19 "2011-12-15T14:28:27Z")

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That’s a good point, who else would Brandon vote for. Certainly not a woman. Right now, the only person who I think Coach could lose to would be Ozzie. Everyone else is a non-entity. My wife and I joke that Rick wasn’t actually part of this season from the beginning. He just walked into camp one day about midway through and nobody noticed. I had to laugh when Albert was talking about his strategic moves. WHAT MOVES? nobody has made a single strategic move in this game besides Cochran.

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2011, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-december-14-2011/606263/20 "2011-12-15T14:39:23Z")

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“I want you to do what God wants you to do, but I don’t think God wants you to vote for me.”

Sometimes I forget why I love this show, and then something like that happens.

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