# Survivor: South Pacific - Oct 19th **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 20, 2011, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-oct-19th/600245 "2011-10-20T13:44:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![ekweizn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7c8e57/32.png) [@ekweizn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekweizn)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-oct-19th/600245/21 "2011-10-20T22:19:22Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > I am not a hard core fan of the show, so this may be a stupid question, but is it ever a good idea to announce that you have an idol? Has there ever been a time when that helped a contestant? Yes, announcing the idol has worked when the rules were different–there were two seasons when the idol could be played _after_ the votes were read. In these two seasons, the idol holder basically went unopposed to the end; notably, Yul (who went on to beat Ozzy in the final tribal council), used it to flip a player at the bottom of the opposing majority alliance. ---
**Author:** ![Ring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Ring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ring)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-oct-19th/600245/22 "2011-10-21T03:36:57Z")
I had to to watch today on the DVR and I’m very happy so many nice looking women are left. It just adds a little enjoyment to my evening. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-oct-19th/600245/23 "2011-10-21T06:58:03Z")
I dunno, seems like the mass exodus of hot chicks began last week and remains in full swing. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-oct-19th/600245/24 "2011-10-21T12:01:29Z")
I finally figured out why I think [Brandon looks like a dyke.](http://www.google.com/search?q=gertrude+stein+image&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=yQZ&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&prmd=imvnso&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=hF6hTsJbw_XSAerI6dgE&ved=0CCEQsAQ&biw=1024&bih=642) ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-oct-19th/600245/25 "2011-10-21T17:54:01Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Yeah, but I don’t judge a season until I see who is in the merge and who is on the jury. Yeah, I’m underwhelmed but agree with you that we need to wait for the merge. Things usually pick up then. I can’t believe that Brandon basically swung the vote. What a dumb-ass move to vote out a stronger player instead of a weak one. They can’t afford to lose more ICs. Did I catch the “I love you” exchange at the end? Was that Coach and Brandon proclaiming their bromance? Coach is, of course, lying. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-oct-19th/600245/26 "2011-10-21T21:06:15Z")
I’ve never seen a season with Coach before, but man is he boring. I thought he was going to be crazy like Phillip, instead he’s just kind of weird like the guy who works in the copy room of my office, just weird enough that I don’t want to go out to a happy hour if he is there, not weird enough that I have to to to a happy hour if he is going to be there. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-oct-19th/600245/27 "2011-10-21T21:36:59Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > I’ve never seen a season with Coach before, but man is he boring. I thought he was going to be crazy like Phillip, instead he’s just kind of weird like the guy who works in the copy room of my office, just weird enough that I don’t want to go out to a happy hour if he is there, not weird enough that I have to to to a happy hour if he is going to be there. Nah, he was never “crazy” like Philip. He has calmed down a lot since his original appearance, though. He actually is trying to be normal, which I can see is making him more boring. Check out his first season. He was a hoot. [Like, he dubbed himself “Dragon Slayer”. Then, watch how he tells his brother(or friend or whatever) that the other players are calling him Dragon Slayer…which none of them did. He kind of makes it sound like amazing things are said about him and happen to him, when it appears to most that he’s full of crap.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOZ7l7lN4M4&feature=related#t=1m49s) ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-oct-19th/600245/28 "2011-10-21T21:39:02Z")
[I also like Coach’s poem at this tribal council.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVyj4zxLE8Y&feature=related) Hard to explain how he was, but look at everyone’s reaction. He’s crazy. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-oct-19th/600245/29 "2011-10-21T23:29:38Z")
He’s repulsive because he has such an extremely high (and extremely unwarranted) opinion of himself. And he has some crazy idea that you’re supposed to play this game “with honor”, although he’ll find 10 excuses whenever he has to do something “dishonorable”. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2011, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-oct-19th/600245/30 "2011-10-22T00:26:42Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > He’s repulsive because he has such an extremely high (and extremely unwarranted) opinion of himself. And he has some crazy idea that you’re supposed to play this game “with honor”, although he’ll find 10 excuses whenever he has to do something “dishonorable”. Yeah, I would wish he would drop the “honor” thing. He’s clearly realized that the honor thing is a bad strategy. If he tries to really play the game while still spouting that “honor” crap it’s going to bite him in the ass if he makes it to the end. ---
**Author:** ![Moonchild](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@Moonchild](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moonchild)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2011, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-oct-19th/600245/31 "2011-10-22T07:07:12Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > He’s repulsive because he has such an extremely high (and extremely unwarranted) opinion of himself. And he has some crazy idea that you’re supposed to play this game “with honor”, although he’ll find 10 excuses whenever he has to do something “dishonorable”. Another passenger here riding Coach on the (no) Love Train. Most. Pretentious. Person. EVAR. The way this guy deludes himself into believing that his every action and choice is made with righteousness and honor irks me to no end. Mikayla didn’t disobey your orders… because you didn’t give any: you made a limp suggestion and she declined. It’s so transparently obvious about Edna being in your back pocket and yet it seems like the only one who doesn’t recognize that is YOU! (Umm, and it started as an alliance of five, not six, Brandon – Edna was not part of it.) Beyond that, I do enjoy this season for the most part and appreciate there being some intelligence in the group with the likes of Jim, Albert, Cochrane and… Albert’s closest ally, her name escapes me. I agree, though, that the whole returning contestant thing blows. That was an awesome dissolve from Brandon to Russell and back… but not really accurate. The two couldn’t be more different when playing the game of Survivor. Brandon’s nuts, but I give him an out because he’s a kid who was raised poorly and is still blinded by youth. Trust me, kid, if you grow up, you’ll see a world comprised of many shades of gray – and I’m bettin’ you’ll start to see them some time this season… or immediately thereafter. BTW, Elyse was runner-up in a Miss American Contest? Boo-ya. ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2011, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-oct-19th/600245/32 "2011-10-22T12:16:36Z")
> [@Moonchild](#): > > Brandon’s nuts, but I give him an out because he’s a kid who was raised poorly and is still blinded by youth. Trust me, kid, if you grow up, you’ll see a world comprised of many shades of gray – and I’m bettin’ you’ll start to see them some time this season… or immediately thereafter. I’ve never particularly liked Brandon, he’s always given off a major creeper vibe to me, but that bit about how “there is no gray, only black or white” really made the hair on the back of my neck. That’s the kind of stuff that people start saying before they’re sharpening their machetes 24/7 and the rest of the camp has to start sleeping in shifts so that nobody starts getting big chunks of their hair cut off during the night. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2011, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-oct-19th/600245/33 "2011-10-22T12:35:30Z")
Hair? That’s the best case scenario if Brandon starts wandering around with a machete in the middle of the night. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-oct-19th/600245.md?page=1)