# Survivor: South Pacific premiere September 14 2011 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 15, 2011, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-premiere-september-14-2011/596345 "2011-09-15T00:11:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-premiere-september-14-2011/596345/21 "2011-09-15T21:10:22Z")
I was impressed that Coach spoke Russian. I am very pleased that this season seems to be free from the typecast “characters” of seasons past. Philip, NaOnka, Johnny Fairplay, Russell, etc. Coach is a character, but that’s not all of who he is - you can see that he has things going on behind the scenes. My early money is on the lingerie footballer. She seems to be a hard worker with a good mind. I think she’ll go far. Who will be the first to stumble upon little Russell furiously masturbating while watching said lingerie model bathing on the beach? ---
**Author:** ![ekweizn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7c8e57/32.png) [@ekweizn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekweizn)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-premiere-september-14-2011/596345/22 "2011-09-16T16:23:00Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Is this “hero challenge” going to be a regular thing? I think it was included to give Ozzy and Coach an opportunity to actually faceoff, unlike the Rob vs. Russell gimmick that didn’t actually come off. I could see them doing another reward challenge next episode to fill in the timeslot where the Redemption Island duel will be–maybe with Ozzy/Coach directing their respective teams. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-premiere-september-14-2011/596345/23 "2011-09-16T16:29:01Z")
In a shocking twist, the first person voted out was a hot chick. Never seen that before. I’m worried about the lingerie model who got right in there to help with the shelter and then kicked ass in the challenge. Helps around camp, good at challenges and is hot? Yeah, definitely my favorite. But she’s on the outside looking in on that tribe with the alliance of five, which does not bode well for her future in the game. Bummer. I so want useless uber-geek out of there. He’s going to tank that whole tribe, and that’s the tribe I’m rooting for. ---
**Author:** ![CapnPitt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/edb3f5/32.png) [@CapnPitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CapnPitt)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-premiere-september-14-2011/596345/24 "2011-09-16T17:06:49Z")
Li’l Hantz doesn’t strike me as being as smart as his uncle. Nicer, sure, but he ain’t bright. And I agree, that shot of him looking through the shelter poles was great. Seemed like that tribe had it right on. The picked the two weakest and went from there. I think they made the right choice, but “last name guy” is probably right behind. Here’s hoping Coach isn’t as much of a blowhard as he was in previous seasons. I’ve said this in the BB thread too, but I’m not a fan of having veterans come back unless it’s an all-star show. I think it’s unfair to the new folks. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-premiere-september-14-2011/596345/25 "2011-09-16T18:05:41Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > I’m worried about the lingerie model who got right in there to help with the shelter and then kicked ass in the challenge. Helps around camp, good at challenges and is hot? Yeah, definitely my favorite. But she’s on the outside looking in on that tribe with the alliance of five, which does not bode well for her future in the game. Bummer. Not lingerie model. [Lingerie Football player](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lingerie_Football_League). And that ain’t flag or touch! I think she might just out-tough a lot of the other tribe members… ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-premiere-september-14-2011/596345/26 "2011-09-16T18:22:51Z")
> [@CapnPitt](#): > > Li’l Hantz doesn’t strike me as being as smart as his uncle. Nicer, sure, but he ain’t bright. And I agree, that shot of him looking through the shelter poles was great. I’m hoping that the fact they’re airing this season means he didn’t chop up LFL model with a machete & try to use her skull and/or uterus as an Immunity Idol. Because that wouldn’t surprise me in the least. ETA: And what if Li’l Hantz gets sent to Redemption Island with Poetry Boobs, or another hot woman? He’ll be talking to Jesus more than Matt ever did. ---
**Author:** ![singular1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ba9def/32.png) [@singular1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/singular1)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-premiere-september-14-2011/596345/27 "2011-09-16T18:49:17Z")
Cochran is about to learn a lesson the hard way - in this day and age, your dirty laundry is pretty easily accessible. Turns out he is a former member of a racist homophobic message board called [opa.ages.com](http://opa-ages.com/forums/topic/57671-ex-oaer-gumby-to-be-on-survivor-south-pacific/), in their words, “Opa-Age A community of socially derelict geniuses who discuss videogames, politics, and the melancholy state of our collectively pathetic existence.” (That’s not a pretty site - just a note of caution) He posted lots of photos and videos of himself, so there’s no doubt it’s him. His user name is Gumby, and he got banned from the survivor sucks board for his over-the-top racist and homophobic comments, and if you’ve ever visited that board, you know you’ve really got to be ladling the hatred pretty heavily to get banned. Apparently he had an outraged rant because his father wouldn’t give him $10000 to bid on one of the vote urns they auction off at the end of each season. It will make a difference in how I watch his interactions with the other players. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-premiere-september-14-2011/596345/28 "2011-09-16T21:10:54Z")
> [@CapnPitt](#): > > I’ve said this in the BB thread too, but I’m not a fan of having veterans come back unless it’s an all-star show. I think it’s unfair to the new folks. It wasn’t that bad on the dope, and your comment isn’t bad, but I was super annoyed by the incessant whining over at hamstertime about how unfair it was to have vets against rookies. Sandwiched in between the rampant misandry, of course. I have no problems with bringing a few vets back. If they’ve adopted a new format where two notable veterans come back every season from now on, that’d be fine with me. Nothing unfair about it. The advantage they have from experience is more than offset by the giant neon target on their backs. ---
**Author:** ![Anamorphic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/anamorphic/32/3057_2.png) [@Anamorphic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anamorphic)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-premiere-september-14-2011/596345/29 "2011-09-16T22:14:12Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > I have no problems with bringing a few vets back. If they’ve adopted a new format where two notable veterans come back every season from now on, that’d be fine with me. Nothing unfair about it. The advantage they have from experience is more than offset by the giant neon target on their backs. Plus the fact that the new people know a lot more about them then vice versa. ---
**Author:** ![randwill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@randwill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randwill)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2011, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-premiere-september-14-2011/596345/30 "2011-09-17T15:08:49Z")
> [@Anamorphic](#): > > Plus the fact that the new people know a lot more about them then vice versa. Depends on when the particular veteran is brought back. The players who competed against Russell Hantz when he was brought back hadn’t seen his first season because it aired after their season was taped. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2011, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-premiere-september-14-2011/596345/31 "2011-09-17T15:51:14Z")
> [@randwill](#): > > Depends on when the particular veteran is brought back. The players who competed against Russell Hantz when he was brought back hadn’t seen his first season because it aired after their season was taped. Only in the All-star game. By the time he was brought back for a third chance, they had seen both his appearances. ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2011, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-premiere-september-14-2011/596345/32 "2011-09-17T16:56:24Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Only in the All-star game. By the time he was brought back for a third chance, they had seen both his appearances. That’s why he got booted off so quick. Well that and the fact that he didn’t learn from any of his mistakes and didn’t realize that while he was very good at playing Immunity Idol scavenger hunt, he was terrible at playing Survivor. ---
**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2011, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-premiere-september-14-2011/596345/33 "2011-09-19T15:26:41Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > So far, so good. I don’t hate anyone yet > [@kiz](#): > > I don’t automatically dislike anyone. That’s a first. I was going to agree, then I remembered the blonde lady with the permanent scowl who called Coach and Ozzy “temporary players” and then ran off to search for the idol after about 3 minutes at camp. Don’t remember her name, but she definitely rubs me the wrong way already. ---
**Author:** ![FlightlessBird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/cdc98d/32.png) [@FlightlessBird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlightlessBird)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2011, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-premiere-september-14-2011/596345/34 "2011-09-19T15:59:54Z")
You won’t need to learn her name, she should be the first off from that tribe. I don’t think she has any friends which = death in Survivor. ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2011, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-premiere-september-14-2011/596345/35 "2011-09-19T16:37:50Z")
> [@FlightlessBird](#): > > You won’t need to learn her name, she should be the first off from that tribe. I don’t think she has any friends which = death in Survivor. Christine. She claims [in her bio](http://www.cbs.com/shows/survivor/cast/62880/) that she’s “a born leader,” which is often code for “bossypants,” which does not bode well for her, I don’t think. Although I find Christine to be less annoying than Brandon. Who doesn’t like the way Mikayla “carries herself.” Which is stupid, because Mikayla carries herself like a self-assured person _who happens to be a female with breasts_ who probably – almost definitely, I would wager – would not like the way Brandon leers at her when he thinks nobody is watching. As if the Hantz factor weren’t enough, he’s just an all-around creeper. ---
**Author:** ![tsm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/db5fbb/32.png) [@tsm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tsm)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2011, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-premiere-september-14-2011/596345/36 "2011-09-19T16:43:18Z")
You all do realize that the creepy looks could be – and most likely are – all put together in editing? Take that “creepy” look out of that context and he could have been looking at anything. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2011, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-premiere-september-14-2011/596345/37 "2011-09-19T16:49:08Z")
> [@tsm](#): > > You all do realize that the creepy looks could be – and most likely are – all put together in editing? Take that “creepy” look out of that context and he could have been looking at anything. I agree. It’s fairly cheap editing by the show to do that to him. I tend to give him the benefit of the doubt for now. Jeff Probst has said that unless he is duping everyone, he does seem like a rather nice guy. ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2011, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-premiere-september-14-2011/596345/38 "2011-09-19T18:15:50Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > I agree. It’s fairly cheap editing by the show to do that to him. I tend to give him the benefit of the doubt for now. Jeff Probst has said that unless he is duping everyone, he does seem like a rather nice guy. Possibly. But the guy still gives me the creeps. ---
**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2011, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-premiere-september-14-2011/596345/39 "2011-09-19T18:43:48Z")
Which female biblical character did he compare the football player to? Was it Jezebel or Delilah? Dude’s a creeper, no doubt about it. And yeah, Christine started off really poorly. With “Cochran” right behind - you’d think that watching this show so much would have shown him that making some friends is a good idea… ---
**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2011, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-premiere-september-14-2011/596345/40 "2011-09-19T20:57:14Z")
Johnny Cochran amuses me. How can you be the world’s best student of Survivor, plan on taking a trip to the South Pacific and not get a tan ahead of time? He’s going to be absolutely miserable out there. I’m guessing that he’s the next one gone from his tribe. I hope it’s next week because I’d love to see a death match between him and PB. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-premiere-september-14-2011/596345.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-premiere-september-14-2011/596345.md?page=3)