# Survivor: South Pacific September 28 2011 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 29, 2011, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-september-28-2011/597950 "2011-09-29T00:13:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Saltire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saltire/32/553_2.png) [@Saltire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saltire)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2011, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-september-28-2011/597950/21 "2011-09-29T18:51:08Z")
Were I in his tribe, I’d try to subtly make sure the machete is always somewhere out of Brandon’s reach. His repressed anger at himself could actually lead to a complete loss of self-control at some point. ---
**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2011, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-september-28-2011/597950/22 "2011-09-29T20:13:45Z")
Brandon’s backstory makes him even more of an asshole creep than he comes across as on the show. (Beating your 16 year old pregnant wife. Forcing her to walk behind him with her head down so she doesn’t look at any guys. What a charmer.) ---
**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2011, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-september-28-2011/597950/23 "2011-09-29T20:18:07Z")
Link? ---
**Author:** ![Acid\_Lamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Acid\_Lamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acid_Lamp)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2011, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-september-28-2011/597950/24 "2011-09-29T21:32:23Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > While we’re bitching about things, I want to know when _Survivor_ turned into _Big Brother_. There are no **surviving** challenges any more. They get all worked up over Reward of coffee? They’ve been on the island for a week. They have fire and fishing equipment? Nobody had to spend a day trying to bow a fire into existence? What kind of pussy summer camp has this show turned into? Bring back the days of mental collapse due to starvation and stress. I’m with you. While we are at it, the challenges should actually be survival oriented. Some demonstration of a useful skill, or a team effort that needs everyone to help. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Barchetta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@Red\_Barchetta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Barchetta)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2011, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-september-28-2011/597950/25 "2011-09-29T21:32:36Z")
> [@Rebo](#): > > Link? Seconded. ---
**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2011, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-september-28-2011/597950/26 "2011-09-29T22:38:58Z")
> [@Rebo](#): > > Link? There was a post from Brandon’s wife at the bottom of [this online article](http://www.sloppynoodle.com/wp/sacred-romance-discovering-what-true-love-really-is/) that appears to have now been removed. The post was from July 2010, so it was before anyone knew who he was. The text read: > [@Candace Hantz](#): > > candace July 16, 2010 5:38 am (random comment) > > As I was reading this I could’nt help but look back on mine and my husbands mariage and dating relationship! (please do not judge me or my husband in this story for we have both changed and gave our lives to the lord) > First of all I would like to tell you that I am 17 years old and my husband, Brandon, is 18 we have a little boy, Elijah who is 6 months old and we have been married for a year and 2 months(we got married on my 16th birthday, may 15th) we have our own apartment..etc.. > Well we have had a REALLY rough relationship full of arguments and fights we even used to hit each other. Our relationship was no romance thats for sure to me it was HELL. > I met him at a rodeo he was a bullrider and i wanted to find that “true love” you where talking about and i thought i had! > We even tried to run away together but that didnt work out so brandon left for texas to work in his familys bussiness as a tankerman pumping oil and gas and etc. > Well I begged and prodded at my mom to let me go live with him and at that time he was so mean to me he would tease me about leaving me and i would get so upset i would threaten my life just to be with him. > My mom of course said NO and i told her i would kill myself because brandon said if i didnt get her to say yes he would leave me so she put me in the hospitol to teach me a lesson and im glad she did!!! > After that she decided if i wanted to go so bad she would let me so the day after christmas i arrived in texas to live with brandon!!! > From then on our relationship went downward WAYYYYYY DOWNWARD to make a very long story short he was extremely jealouse i was extremely tired of it and we fought like cats and dogs, i couldnt go anywhere without him and when i did i had to put my head down just so he wouldnt think i was looking at anyone. > But one day he mad me so frusterated i tryed to stab myself with a knife and i succeded i stabbed my leg and didnt even notice brandon noticed before i did and he wrapped it up and a couple of days later we went to get it stitched up. > After that whole incident we went to live with brandons grandfather in louisianna everyone wanted us to be apart but we did and said anything to be together!!! > We fought there also and then went to live with his aunt in louisianna also and there it just got worse. > We eventually moved back to north carolina from where we first left and lived with his mom and dad (let me just put in this,the whole time we are trying to get pregnant) and there we still had fights and we hit each other but it got a little better and throughout these times i would fervently pray for gods help but no answer because i wasnt doint right with god. > We found out a month before my 16th birthday that i was pregnant and we were sooooooo excited even though we had stopped trying we were glad we where finally going to have a family!!! > Well anyways the day before we went to get married he hit me, we had gotten into an argument and we went at it!!! > We still got married of course and his mom and dad kicked us out of their house because we fought too much so we moved to lancaster ohio where things got worse again….to be short we lived in a trailer with nothing at all in it except our clothes etc, no air or heat, no electricity, nothing, after a week we got our water turned and electricity turned on but we had no money to get food or anything else. > Brandons mom once in a while orderd us a pizza and drink but i was scared for my health so brandon walked everyday to find a job so he could support us, once he found one he walked everyday miles and miles to get to work while i stayed home reading my bible trying to fix this whole mess not seeing what IM doing wrong!!! > Well we found a place to rent and then moved from there to another aparment across the street all this time we only one time had a car and we had to sell it because it didnt work anymore and we needed the money so we walked EVERYWHERE, to get grocerys with foodstamps, to walmart anywhere you can think. > Well we ended up loosing our house and we were living in our car wondering what to do next so we ended up that night driving all the way to texas AGAIN his mother and father now lived there at this time so we stayed with them a couple of days then with his aunt and then with our pastor and from this point on our marriage got better!!! we started going to church, we took marriage counseling and we endured so much pain together and no matter what happened we never abbandoned each other i might have threatened to leave a lot but i never did and he stuck right with me also. > We now have a wonderful apartment in texas which we’ve been living in for 7 months and we don’t hit each other, we have given our lives over to the lord and its all because of GODS mighty power and he put us together for a reason!!! > I am telling you this story to show you that true love also means being there when you dont want to be, enduring through all the pain and that has been our whole relationship and now we also enjoy each other and selflessly give to one another our love and kindness!!! > I hope my story has helped someone, encouraged someone out there because no matter what situation your going through GOD can bring you out of it all you have to do is give him your all and he will heal every affliction, but be patient because GODS perfect will has to be done and thats all in HIS timing!!! > thank you for reading, candace hantz!!! > ~ ---
**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2011, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-september-28-2011/597950/27 "2011-09-29T23:02:57Z")
Oh, my. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Gfactor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de053/32.png) [@Gfactor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gfactor)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2011, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-september-28-2011/597950/28 "2011-09-29T23:20:33Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > While we’re bitching about things, I want to know when _Survivor_ turned into _Big Brother_. There are no **surviving** challenges any more. They get all worked up over Reward of coffee? They’ve been on the island for a week. They have fire and fishing equipment? Nobody had to spend a day trying to bow a fire into existence? What kind of pussy summer camp has this show turned into? Bring back the days of mental collapse due to starvation and stress. Thought the same thing. There is zero surviving going on here. This is waiting. ---
**Author:** ![interface2x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c0e974/32.png) [@interface2x](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/interface2x)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2011, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-september-28-2011/597950/29 "2011-09-29T23:32:00Z")
> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#): > > There was a post from Brandon’s wife at the bottom of [this online article](http://www.sloppynoodle.com/wp/sacred-romance-discovering-what-true-love-really-is/) that appears to have now been removed. The post was from July 2010, so it was before anyone knew who he was. The text read: Holy crap. ---
**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2011, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-september-28-2011/597950/30 "2011-09-30T00:29:56Z")
> [@Gfactor](#): > > Thought the same thing. There is zero surviving going on here. This is waiting. A year or two ago OLN showed the previous seasons in order and the ones where they got nothing were awful. The contestants spent the entire time between challenges sitting around and whining about how tired and hungry they were. There were no confrontations like the one between Hantz and Mikayla because no one had the energy to do something like that. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2011, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-september-28-2011/597950/31 "2011-09-30T13:23:00Z")
I watch pretty much everything on my DVR now, so I just FF through the whole RI bullshit. I don’t care about any of it. Do the producers even know if people like this or not? I can’t imagine it gives the show any better ratings. The white chick who got voted off last week… Why are these people so much in denial? The tribe wasn’t “ready” for someone who was playing the game right off the bat? Yeah, right. It’s always someone else’s fault. They need to get rid of Brandon. He really is dangerous and disruptive. And what is he… about 5 ft 0 inches? He’s the scary kind of religious. ---
**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2011, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-september-28-2011/597950/32 "2011-09-30T13:23:36Z")
I just got caught on episodes 1-3, thanks to Primetime on Demand. Some comments: 1. Yeah, poetry lady is nuts. Although I don’t believe for one second that Jeff Probst yawned and shuffled his feet during her Redemption Island challenge psyche-up babbling. He’s a gentleman if nothing else. So I firmly believe that he listened politely and his reactions were just clever editing. 2. Brandon is in need of some serious counseling. He’s very close to wanting women to walk around in burquas so as to not tempt the weak men. Hint to Brandon: This is what happens when you get married before you’ve exited adolescence. Most men your age don’t feel shackled by a lifelong commitment to one woman because they’re not ready yet. 3. Christine from Long Island sealed her fate with her big mouth. I think it’s funny that she’s so obviously bitter at Coach when she’s the one who began the animosity with her “Welcome to you, temporarily.” Pretty bold words from someone who just started the game 5 minutes ago. 4. I hate when the Producers stack up 15 20 and 30 year olds against 2 people over 40. At the very least, they should give them a fighting chance by evening the age brackets 5. Chris the marijuana dispensary guy is as abrasive and unlikeable as anyone I’ve ever seen on Survivor. 6. I don’t know what to make of Coach. The editors have either worked hard to redeem his image as a vulnerable nutcase, or he’s actually found his way back to sanity. 7. The black woman (name begins with an S?) on Coach’s tribe has been seething with anger from Day 1. She needs to dial back the 'tude. 8. It’s seems apparent that if Ozzy’s tribe loses another immunity challenge, that Cochran will be off the show. That’s a shame because he’s one of the few people who actually has a personality. Though it’d be nice if he’d quit channeling Woody Allen because I can’t stand him. 9. Has the Rancher said two words? 10. I actually like that they are feeding them more this season. I could do without the obligatory pixellations as their clothing gets looser and looser. 11. I felt bad for Papa Bear when he tried to salvage himself with the fake HII. He seemed like a nice chap and I wish he’d have lasted longer in the game. 12. Still hate Redemption Island. ---
**Author:** ![Acid\_Lamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Acid\_Lamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acid_Lamp)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2011, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-september-28-2011/597950/33 "2011-09-30T13:33:50Z")
> [@Lamar\_Mundane](#): > > A year or two ago OLN showed the previous seasons in order and the ones where they got nothing were awful. The contestants spent the entire time between challenges sitting around and whining about how tired and hungry they were. There were no confrontations like the one between Hantz and Mikayla because no one had the energy to do something like that. Can’t say as that’s a bad thing in my book. I can’t stand it when they need to manufacture drama. Split the difference so that the blow outs are really good and they actually have to survive a bit. ---
**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2011, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-september-28-2011/597950/34 "2011-09-30T14:06:04Z")
> [@PeskiPiksi](#): > > Brandon is certifiably insane. Don’t they screen these people for psychological problems? Or did he just get a pass because he’s related to the troll? I’m certain that there is no way in hell he would ever be on Survivor if not for the family connection. Coach observed last week that Brandon has “Demons.” If by “Demons” he meant “Mental Illness” then I agree. > [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#): > > There was a post from Brandon’s wife at the bottom of [this online article](http://www.sloppynoodle.com/wp/sacred-romance-discovering-what-true-love-really-is/) that appears to have now been removed. The post was from July 2010, so it was before anyone knew who he was. The text read: Wow. Just, wow. If this is legit, it’s seriously disturbing. [QUOTE=Brandon’s Wife (allegedly)] We found out \*\*a month before my 16th birthday \*\*that i was pregnant and we were sooooooo excited even though we had stopped trying we were glad we where **finally** going to have a family!!! [/QUOTE] Bwuh???!! > [@minlokwat](#): > > Looks like Coach is beginning to (finally) emerge as the leader he always claimed to be. > > If you remember his first run, he was an insufferable twit who constantly sang his own laurels recounting what a great guy he was and how people were naturally drawn to his warrior spirit. The reality which he couldn’t grasp, was that he was all talk and no game. > > It looks like he’s come to understand that it is through one’s actions that the more powerful statement is made. > > I have to say, he doesn’t appear to be such a bad guy this time around. Coach does seem to have much more self-awareness this time around. Though, in past seasons his full crazy took a while to emerge, as I recall. There’s still time. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2011, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-september-28-2011/597950/35 "2011-09-30T14:09:47Z")
Does no one else like my idea for a season in which the teams are made up entirely of weirdos from previous seasons? I’ve even thought up a name: Survivor; Special Teams. ---
**Author:** ![Billy\_Baroo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/76d3ee/32.png) [@Billy\_Baroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Billy_Baroo)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2011, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-september-28-2011/597950/36 "2011-09-30T14:31:08Z")
> [@Batsinma\_Belfry](#): > > I’m a little disappointed that Brandon didn’t go into an evangelistic bible thumping frenzy, when he gathered everyone together. Although, he almost made up for it, when he pointed to God triumphantly, while being propelled across the water. That finger point sucked so bad. I interact regularly with folks whose theology includes a God who makes your traffic lights green. If Jesus had to spend an hour with Brother Brandon, he’d be quotin’ The Dude: “Brandon, I love you but sooner or later you’re going to have to face the fact you’re a goddamn moron.” The Candace Hantz post is too good to be true. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2011, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-september-28-2011/597950/37 "2011-09-30T14:53:57Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > Does no one else like my idea for a season in which the teams are made up entirely of weirdos from previous seasons? > > I’ve even thought up a name: Survivor; Special Teams. Let’s cast it, then. We need 18, with a good mix of girls and guys. Philip Brandon Hantz That singing lady who got kicked off before the show began(We’re on Survivor!) Coach(though he has been more normal lately) Poetry Lady ---
**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2011, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-september-28-2011/597950/38 "2011-09-30T14:58:36Z")
NaOnka - the one who stole food, and tackled the one-legged girl. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2011, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-september-28-2011/597950/39 "2011-09-30T15:02:56Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > Does no one else like my idea for a season in which the teams are made up entirely of weirdos from previous seasons? > > I’ve even thought up a name: Survivor; Special Teams. I suggested **Survivor: Jerry Springer** a [couple of years ago](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=532267&highlight=Survivor+Springer). Apparently, there is already a wife beater, but we need trannies, cougars, whores, goths, head bangers, Gay for pay, dominatrix, pregnant teen, gigolo, morbidly obese, anorexic, bigamist, Amish Rumspringa dude. It would be awesome! ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2011, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-september-28-2011/597950/40 "2011-09-30T15:04:27Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > That singing lady who got kicked off before the show began(We’re on Survivor!) Wanda, whose name I remember only because, ebarrassingly enough, she’s local. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-september-28-2011/597950.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-south-pacific-september-28-2011/597950.md?page=3)