# Suspended/Banned Poster links

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suspended-banned-poster-links/701461>\
**Category:** About This Message Board\
**Created:** [October 16, 2014, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suspended-banned-poster-links/701461 "2014-10-16T01:53:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 18\
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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2014, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suspended-banned-poster-links/701461/61 "2014-10-17T21:23:45Z")

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Six warnings in less than 10 months is a lot. I’ve seen posters banned with 3 or 4 over longer spans of time, IIRC. From the four warnings that I sampled, three were pretty clear cut.  
There are some posters who understand the lines pretty well and manage to irk massive numbers of posters while still remaining active members. Shodan and Der Trihs are 2 examples. After much wrangling and the appointment of Jon Chance, standards in GD were risen to the point that encompassed Der’s problematic behavior. He received moderator direction and adjusted his habits accordingly.

Sticking around is pretty simple actually. Just follow moderator instructions and if you don’t understand them, seek clarification. Try not to rules lawyer: that’s just whiny. Act, you know, constructively.

The comparison with Terr is inappropriate. That said, I have never noticed bad or problematic behavior on his part before his suspension. Other posters have behavior that is more noticeable. Part of this is inevitable. Part of it is related to the fact that annoying behavior doesn’t conflict with the standards of this board _per se_. Personally, I don’t have a problem with that, but many here do. Also, eye of the beholder, etc.

I also argue that bad behavior generally conflicts with the goal of fighting ignorance. Of course certain clever zingers can run afoul of board rules. Luckily 99% of the warnings are not prompted by quality wisecracks.  
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> [@Marley23](#):
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> If you institute automatic suspensions at set numbers of warnings, people will say you’re inflexible and that not all violations are equally serious.

Yes, and mods have been accused of inflexibility (and the opposite), so the issue is real.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2014, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suspended-banned-poster-links/701461/62 "2014-10-17T21:31:13Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> It’s a tough question, but that inconsistency does shade the appearance of fairness in moderation. (no, I don’t think mods are prejudice towards any of the members, but I think the current procedure sometimes make it appear that way)

Unless both posters said exactly the same things in exactly the same circumstances over exactly the same period of time, it would still lead to complaints of bias and inconsistency.

If we went to some robotic model of moderation, I suspect posters would like it much less. I for one give mod notes for a lot of offenses that technically are liable for a warning. If I enforced the rules “by the book” I would probably issue five times more warnings than I currently do.

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**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2014, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suspended-banned-poster-links/701461/63 "2014-10-17T21:42:02Z")

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> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#):
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> Surely you mean Miller.

**Miller** did it, but I’m sure it’s **Marley** ’s fault. Or something. Crap, I’ve gotta learn to read.

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**Author:** ![Leo\_Bloom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leo_bloom/32/10377_2.png) [@Leo\_Bloom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Bloom)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2014, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suspended-banned-poster-links/701461/64 "2014-10-17T22:01:44Z")

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I, for one, have never been irked by **Shodan**.

Regards,  
Leo

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2014, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suspended-banned-poster-links/701461/65 "2014-10-17T22:31:55Z")

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> [@Irishman](#):
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> **Miller** did it, but I’m sure it’s **Marley** ’s fault.

For the record, this reasoning applies any time I make a mistake.

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2014, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suspended-banned-poster-links/701461/66 "2014-10-17T22:37:02Z")

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Hey, me too!

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**Author:** ![Digital\_is\_the\_new\_Analog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a88e4f/32.png) [@Digital\_is\_the\_new\_Analog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Digital_is_the_new_Analog)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2014, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suspended-banned-poster-links/701461/67 "2014-10-18T00:56:34Z")

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> [@Irishman](#):
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> **Miller** did it, but I’m sure it’s **Marley** ’s fault.

> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#):
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> Hey, me too!

Ok. \*\*Miller \*\*did it, but I’m sure it’s **Jonathan Chance** ’s fault.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2014, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suspended-banned-poster-links/701461/68 "2014-10-18T12:15:43Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> There’s no such thing as a reversion to mod notes.

This is false. **Jonathan Chance** said that he chose to employ a mod note instead of a warning so that he would be taken seriously. My question is why this was done for **Der Trihs** and not for **Terr**.

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> Notes and warnings are both given out on a case-by-case basis as the mods deem appropriate.

True, hence my question - why is it appropriate to Warn and then mod note in one case, and Warn and then suspend in another?

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2014, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suspended-banned-poster-links/701461/69 "2014-10-18T12:35:24Z")

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Can you cite what you’re talking about? A link to the action you mean for Der Tris? It’s hard to follow the bouncing ball when there’s no ball.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2014, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suspended-banned-poster-links/701461/70 "2014-10-18T12:47:05Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> This is false. **Jonathan Chance** said that he chose to employ a mod note instead of a warning so that he would be taken seriously. My question is why this was done for **Der Trihs** and not for **Terr**.True, hence my question - why is it appropriate to Warn and then mod note in one case, and Warn and then suspend in another?
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> Regards,  
> Shodan

It’s conceivable that the offenses were of both a different character and a different magnitude, right?

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**Author:** ![C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C_K_Dexter_Haven)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2014, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suspended-banned-poster-links/701461/71 "2014-10-18T14:00:23Z")

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> [@Steophan](#):
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> No, I meant exactly what I said. Thankyou for granting me the benefit of the doubt, but in this case it wasn’t necessary, and if you feel the need to take further action based on the literal reading of my post you should do so.

Well, of course, I knew what you said and what you meant, I was trying to find an excuse not to give you an Official Warning. You seem to be saying that you did it deliberately and want the warning, so I’m obliged to comply.

OFFICIAL WARNING: **Steophan** , name-calling addressed at other posters in an insulting manner is not permitted in this forum. Please re-read the [Registration Agreement](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=650726f) and the [Rules on Posting at the Straight Dope Message Boards](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=384736), especially [Are there any rules on insulting other posters?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=7697044#post7697044)

Please don’t do this again.

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**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2014, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suspended-banned-poster-links/701461/72 "2014-10-18T14:14:02Z")

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That would be laughable if it wasn’t so pathetic. When you’ve come down off your power trip, try moderating some of the other, far more egregious, offences that occur on this board, such as the ongoing junior modding by [REDACTED] that spoils so many threads.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2014, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suspended-banned-poster-links/701461/73 "2014-10-18T16:16:46Z")

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> [@Steophan](#):
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> That would be laughable if it wasn’t so pathetic. When you’ve come down off your power trip, try moderating some of the other, far more egregious, offences that occur on this board, such as the ongoing junior modding by [REDACTED] that spoils so many threads.

**Moderator Warning**

**Steophan** , responding to a warning by doing the same thing over again isn’t appropriate (and using the [REDACTED] ploy doesn’t obscure the intent). In addition, discussion in ATMB should remain civil. Your post is inappropriate on these grounds also. This is an additional warning for being a jerk.

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**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2014, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suspended-banned-poster-links/701461/74 "2014-10-18T16:40:19Z")

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If that post was your idea of “uncivil”, your job as a moderator, should you make even a vague attempt to be impartial, will be quite a large one. To put it mildly.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2014, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suspended-banned-poster-links/701461/75 "2014-10-18T16:52:38Z")

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Dude, it might be easier just to throw your username off the Golden Gate Bridge.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2014, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suspended-banned-poster-links/701461/76 "2014-10-18T17:12:16Z")

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> [@Steophan](#):
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> If that post was your idea of “uncivil”, your job as a moderator, should you make even a vague attempt to be impartial, will be quite a large one. To put it mildly.

If that’s your idea of civil, you’re posting on the wrong board.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2014, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suspended-banned-poster-links/701461/77 "2014-10-18T19:32:04Z")

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Aaaaaand we’re about done here.

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**Author:** ![C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C_K_Dexter_Haven)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2014, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suspended-banned-poster-links/701461/78 "2014-10-19T04:06:04Z")

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Yep, I agree. Closing the thread.

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