# SW: Clone Wars - Best kept secret in the universe **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 7, 2003, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sw-clone-wars-best-kept-secret-in-the-universe/211829 "2003-11-07T04:17:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Gumbercules](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a183cd/32.png) [@Gumbercules](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gumbercules)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2003, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sw-clone-wars-best-kept-secret-in-the-universe/211829/1 "2003-11-07T04:17:31Z")
Star Wars: Clone Wars premiers tomorrow on Cartoon Network. We have known about this for months, but why has there been next to no publicity? I never saw a commercial on CN until last night. The only place that seems to care is [theforce.net](http://theforce.net) Please don’t turn this into a “god i hate the new star wars movies george lucas ruined star wars blah blah blah” thread. There are plenty of people who do like the new Star Wars who would probably like to find out what happens in between episodes II and III. I think they should have advertised this a lot more. ---
**Author:** ![Vezer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b38774/32.png) [@Vezer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vezer)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2003, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sw-clone-wars-best-kept-secret-in-the-universe/211829/2 "2003-11-07T05:00:42Z")
I recall hearing about it many moons ago. The fact of the matter is that these last two movies were attrocious. “Droids” and other animated adventures turned out to be dismal. Wish the series the best and hope it provides well scripted and well done episodes though. Promise lies in Genndy Tartakosky (of “Samurai Jack” fame) helming it. They are only 3 minutes in length so the stories will hopefully avoid that pitfull of prolonged blabbering that was Episode II! ---
**Author:** ![ResIpsaLoquitor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b3f665/32.png) [@ResIpsaLoquitor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ResIpsaLoquitor)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2003, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sw-clone-wars-best-kept-secret-in-the-universe/211829/3 "2003-11-07T05:01:37Z")
HA! The cartoon is a SMALL part of what happens between Episodes II and III. “Clone Wars” has been an ongoing event that encompasses not just the cartoon, but: [UL] [LI]The _Clone Wars_ video game for GameCube, PS2 and XBox; [LI]The Boba Fett “junior” novels; [LI]Several novels from Del Rey, including the recently published _Shatterpoint_; and [LI]All recent issues of Dark Horse Comics’ _Star Wars: Republic_ monthly, including several _Jedi_ specials. The last of these is particularly important, since the bulk of the Clone Wars stories will be told in the comics. Several major characters (Durge, Asajj Ventress and the ARC Troopers) made their first appearances there. Oh, yeah, and ALL of the Gungans were killed in _Republic_ #51. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2003, 7:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sw-clone-wars-best-kept-secret-in-the-universe/211829/4 "2003-11-07T07:43:53Z")
> [@](#): > > Oh, yeah, and ALL of the Gungans were killed in _Republic_ #51. And there was much rejoicing. Were the Ewoks wiped out by ticks and worms, too? Please? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2003, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sw-clone-wars-best-kept-secret-in-the-universe/211829/5 "2003-11-07T07:44:08Z")
Seriously? You haven’t seen _any_ commercials? Man, I’m seeing them all over the place. Adult Swim has been thick with them for the last two months. And speaking as someone who disliked the first one and detested the second one, I cannot wait. If it’s half as good as _Samurai Jack_ it’ll still be the second coolest thing on TV. ---
**Author:** ![Suzene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7cd45c/32.png) [@Suzene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suzene)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2003, 8:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sw-clone-wars-best-kept-secret-in-the-universe/211829/6 "2003-11-07T08:42:18Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Larry Mudd \* > \*\*And there was much rejoicing. Were the Ewoks wiped out by ticks and worms, too? Please? \*\* Endor Holocaust: [http://www.theforce.net/swtc/holocaust.html](http://www.theforce.net/swtc/holocaust.html) Suzene ---
**Author:** ![widdershins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f0a364/32.png) [@widdershins](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/widdershins)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2003, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sw-clone-wars-best-kept-secret-in-the-universe/211829/7 "2003-11-07T12:02:23Z")
I’ve only casually been watching CN lately, mostly for FLCL reruns and _Sealab 2021_, and the ads for the micro-series were all over. It’s also dominant on CN’s website, so they aren’t exactly hiding it. I’ll give it a shot, hopefully at three minutes per episode it can’t be any worse than the two prequels so far even if it sucks. Then again since Tartakosky apparently wrote it rather than Lucas at least some coherent thought might have gone into othings like plot and dialogue rather than just how it looks on the screen. Sorry **Gumbercules** , couldn’t resist a cheap shot at Lucas. ---
**Author:** ![ResIpsaLoquitor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b3f665/32.png) [@ResIpsaLoquitor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ResIpsaLoquitor)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2003, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sw-clone-wars-best-kept-secret-in-the-universe/211829/8 "2003-11-07T15:49:32Z")
Larry, you might consider checking out _Star Wars: Infinities–Return of the Jedi_ from Dark Horse comics. It’s an alternate universe retelling of ROTJ where Leia’s negotiations with Jabba go sour, causing Fett to run off with the frozen Han, meaning everybody’s going to be late for the battle of Endor… They’ve billed it as “Now with 99% fewer Ewoks!” ---
**Author:** ![Soapbox\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Soapbox\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soapbox_Monkey)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2003, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sw-clone-wars-best-kept-secret-in-the-universe/211829/9 "2003-11-07T16:08:35Z")
It’s EU, and therefore irrelevant. ---
**Author:** ![Tarrsk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/97f17d/32.png) [@Tarrsk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tarrsk)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2003, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sw-clone-wars-best-kept-secret-in-the-universe/211829/10 "2003-11-07T21:07:02Z")
I dunno about that, **Soapbox Monkey** … Lucas’ last two films make the EU look like masterpieces of storytelling in comparison. I’d ditch the prequel trilogy long before the EU. _Attack of the Clones_ has got nothing on _Traitor_ or _Wraith Squadron_. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2003, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sw-clone-wars-best-kept-secret-in-the-universe/211829/11 "2003-11-07T21:42:52Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Soapbox Monkey \* > \*\*It’s EU, and therefore irrelevant. \*\* Right, beacuse the EU stuff didn’t really happen, whereas the stuff in the movies… also… didn’t… really happen… ---
**Author:** ![Fern\_Forest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/71c47a/32.png) [@Fern\_Forest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fern_Forest)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2003, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sw-clone-wars-best-kept-secret-in-the-universe/211829/12 "2003-11-07T22:00:37Z")
The commercials say the episodes are 5 minutes long. But the length should vary from episode to episode. I’m excited. And for those of you who don’t have CN they’re going to have each episode on their website only the soundtrack will be a commentary. Wont be the same but it’s still something. ---
**Author:** ![ResIpsaLoquitor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b3f665/32.png) [@ResIpsaLoquitor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ResIpsaLoquitor)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2003, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sw-clone-wars-best-kept-secret-in-the-universe/211829/13 "2003-11-07T23:38:05Z")
And I guess since Aayla Secura (the Twilek Jedi in the Geonosis arena) is an EU character, she wasn’t really in the movie… ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2003, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sw-clone-wars-best-kept-secret-in-the-universe/211829/14 "2003-11-08T01:59:20Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Tarrsk \* > \*\*I dunno about that, **Soapbox Monkey** … Lucas’ last two films make the EU look like masterpieces of storytelling in comparison. I’d ditch the prequel trilogy long before the EU. _Attack of the Clones_ has got nothing on _Traitor_ or _Wraith Squadron_. \*\* YAY Wraith Squadron! The Wraiths ROCK! Face and Phanan are the BEST characters in the _Star Wars_ universe! Yub Yub, Commander! And Ewoks rule! Okay, I watched the first episode-taped it, actually. Whoever is doing the voice for Obi-Wan Kenobi sounds so much like Ewan McGregor it’s scary. (And no, it’s not Ewan). I can’t wait until Monday! Oh, and if you haven’t read _Shatterpoint_, I suggest you do so. VERY good. ---
**Author:** ![Gumbercules](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a183cd/32.png) [@Gumbercules](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gumbercules)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2003, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sw-clone-wars-best-kept-secret-in-the-universe/211829/15 "2003-11-08T04:16:17Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Fern Forest \* > \*\*And for those of you who don’t have CN they’re going to have each episode on their website only the soundtrack will be a commentary. Wont be the same but it’s still something. \*\* 'tis a shame. just watched (and taped) episode 1 and the music really made it. About the three-to-five-minute format, not a big fan. It reminds me of the Conan O’Brien bit called Sixty (a spoof of 24 where they follow some spy guy for one second at a time). ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2003, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sw-clone-wars-best-kept-secret-in-the-universe/211829/16 "2003-11-08T05:37:23Z")
Well, once they all come out, it will be like one big cartoon. I love the part where Anakin puts his hand against the glass and the Padme does the same. _sniff sniff_ ---
**Author:** ![Fern\_Forest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/71c47a/32.png) [@Fern\_Forest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fern_Forest)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2003, 10:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sw-clone-wars-best-kept-secret-in-the-universe/211829/17 "2003-11-08T10:43:05Z")
Padme was really cute here. Gendy’s style has produced quite a few slightly odd but damn sexy none the less character designs. In fact she even kinda looked like that actress that Dexter hired to replace Dee Dee after he fired her. I hope we get to see her pout. ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2003, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sw-clone-wars-best-kept-secret-in-the-universe/211829/18 "2003-11-08T15:01:23Z")
Does anyone know when they’ll rerun these? Our local guide said it was on at 8pm, then rebroadcase at midnight, but I checked at midnight and didn’t see anything. ---
**Author:** ![Fern\_Forest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/71c47a/32.png) [@Fern\_Forest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fern_Forest)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2003, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sw-clone-wars-best-kept-secret-in-the-universe/211829/19 "2003-11-08T15:33:21Z")
Hmm, Cartoon Network shows no repeats. But on the plus side I was wrong and you can watch the episodes [on-line](http://www.cartoonnetwork.com/clonewars/main_exclude.html) for free with the commentary off. ---
**Author:** ![Fern\_Forest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/71c47a/32.png) [@Fern\_Forest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fern_Forest)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2003, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sw-clone-wars-best-kept-secret-in-the-universe/211829/20 "2003-11-08T15:39:08Z")
Genndy really needs to work on his commentary skills. He calls Palpatine “the uh head … guy” [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sw-clone-wars-best-kept-secret-in-the-universe/211829.md?page=2)