# SW, Darth Sidious and Palpatine: what the heck? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 5, 2004, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sw-darth-sidious-and-palpatine-what-the-heck/253587 "2004-07-05T03:15:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2005, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sw-darth-sidious-and-palpatine-what-the-heck/253587/41 "2005-04-26T20:54:36Z")
I’m going to risk the wrath of the moderators and point out that anyone who is still wondering if Darth Disious and Emperor Palatine are or are not the same person should not look too closely at the _Star Wars_ action figures currently on sale. In a related vein, here’s an interesting article on Lucas trying to reinvent himself post-_Star Wars_: [Life After Death.](http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/13.05/lucas.html) ---
**Author:** ![Max\_Carnage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/max_carnage/32/12775_2.png) [@Max\_Carnage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_Carnage)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2005, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sw-darth-sidious-and-palpatine-what-the-heck/253587/42 "2005-04-26T21:17:37Z")
Yep, that’s exactly how I stumbled upon the “truth”. Thanks Hasbro :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Ghanima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Ghanima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ghanima)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2005, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sw-darth-sidious-and-palpatine-what-the-heck/253587/43 "2005-04-26T21:27:13Z")
It has been obvious from TPM that Palpatime was Sidious. But I think its remaining a “mystery” because in the film it is a mystery to the players. I don’t forsee any special surprise twist coming out of this. ---
**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2005, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sw-darth-sidious-and-palpatine-what-the-heck/253587/44 "2005-04-26T21:43:40Z")
**Bippy** , when have we seen Greedo grow up? I didn’t see any reason to think the green kid playing with Anakin was Greedo himself. And **Soapbox Monkey** do we know that Chewie, specifically will be in III? ---
**Author:** ![Ghanima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Ghanima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ghanima)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2005, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sw-darth-sidious-and-palpatine-what-the-heck/253587/45 "2005-04-26T22:04:53Z")
We know it was Greedo because of the deleted scene on the DVD. I don’t know if that counts as “canon” to the die-hards or not. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2005, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sw-darth-sidious-and-palpatine-what-the-heck/253587/46 "2005-04-26T22:05:45Z")
> [@Soapbox Monkey](#): > > I’m curious as to how we are even going to know which Wookie is Chewbacca. None of the Wookies can speak english, so unless one of the english speaking characters learns his name and refers to him by it, how will we know _that_ Wookie right there is Chewbacca, and not just random Wookie extra #3? 😕 Actually, _all_ Wookies speak English; Chewie just has a massive speech impediment. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2005, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sw-darth-sidious-and-palpatine-what-the-heck/253587/47 "2005-04-26T22:31:16Z")
> [@Soapbox Monkey](#): > > I find it mind boggling that you can watch Episodes 1 and 2, ESPECIALLY the Anakin & Palpatine scene from 2 and not KNOW that Palp and Sidious are one in the same. How 'bout we just leave it at > [@](#): > > I find it mind boggling that you can watch Episodes 1 and 2 full stop? ---
**Author:** ![Arch\_Trout](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9f8e36/32.png) [@Arch\_Trout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arch_Trout)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2005, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sw-darth-sidious-and-palpatine-what-the-heck/253587/48 "2005-04-26T22:44:38Z")
They could be twins. “So what’s your brother up to these days Senator Palpatine?” “Ah, you know, he amassed an army in order to fight his own brother, if only I hadn’t stolen his lollipop. Having an identical twin can be so hard” “Identical? Just think, since no one knows you’re twins it looks like you control both armies and you’re fighting yourself” “Ah ha, ha ha ha ha ha…mmmmmm, yes I wish he didn’t die all those years ago in a freak speeder bike accident, it’s rubbish playing soldiers with yourself” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sw-darth-sidious-and-palpatine-what-the-heck/253587.md?page=2)