# Swap Biden for Clinton?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/swap-biden-for-clinton/631667>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [August 16, 2012, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/swap-biden-for-clinton/631667 "2012-08-16T13:59:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2012, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/swap-biden-for-clinton/631667/41 "2012-08-17T03:38:00Z")

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[Here](http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/completelist/0,29569,1895156,00.html) is a top-ten list of his gaffes, from Time Magazine. I particularly liked when he said, “I’m told Chuck Graham, state senator, is here. Stand up Chuck, let 'em see you. Oh, God love you. What am I talking about. I’ll tell you what, you’re making everybody else stand up, though, pal.” It was a gaffe because he had forgotten (or didn’t know) that Chuck Graham (state senator from Missouri) is wheelchair-bound, due to paraplegia.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2012, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/swap-biden-for-clinton/631667/42 "2012-08-17T12:12:08Z")

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He’s not notably gaffe-prone if your metric is gaffes _per million words_. 😉  
The man’s simply in love with the sound of his own voice. It gets him into trouble sometimes.

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**Author:** ![Engineer\_Dude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9fc29f/32.png) [@Engineer\_Dude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Engineer_Dude)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2012, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/swap-biden-for-clinton/631667/43 "2012-08-17T19:49:21Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> [Here](http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/completelist/0,29569,1895156,00.html) is a top-ten list of his gaffes, from Time Magazine. I particularly liked when he said, “I’m told Chuck Graham, state senator, is here. Stand up Chuck, let 'em see you. Oh, God love you. What am I talking about. I’ll tell you what, you’re making everybody else stand up, though, pal.” It was a gaffe because he had forgotten (or didn’t know) that Chuck Graham (state senator from Missouri) is wheelchair-bound, due to paraplegia.

My favorite one is not on that list:

[QUOTE=Joe Biden]  
Now is the time to heed the timeless advice from Teddy Roosevelt: ‘Speak softly and carry a big stick.’ End of quote. I promise you, the President has a big stick. I promise you.  
[/QUOTE]

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/swap-biden-for-clinton/631667/44 "2012-08-18T00:31:18Z")

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> [@Joe Biden](#):
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> Now is the time to heed the timeless advice from Teddy Roosevelt: ‘Speak softly and carry a big stick.’ End of quote. I promise you, the President has a big stick. I promise you.

Gaffe (n.)  
When a politician is caught saying the truth out loud.

😉

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**Author:** ![TheSlapIsBack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/838e76/32.png) [@TheSlapIsBack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheSlapIsBack)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2012, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/swap-biden-for-clinton/631667/45 "2012-08-19T14:57:22Z")

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> [@Jas09](#):
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> It’s not going to happen short of a major medical problem with Joe. The only reason you are seeing speculation is because you’re reading sites like Weekly Standard. They like to sow discontent and generally project the impression that the Obama campaign is in trouble.

Obamas biographer Ed Klein noted that the campaign asked Clinton weeks before the functionally retarded Biden made racially divisive comments in Virginia followed by 2 other predictable gaffes.

It is true that the weekly standard has a partisan agenda but it really no different than msnbc or newsweek choosing to ignore Ed kleins claim because it does simply portray a campaign in trouble. Just because everybody ignores it does not make it irrelevant.  
Example… David Plouffe taking money from suspect orgs in Nigeria then donating to democratic orgs once a little light was shined on it. It IS unethical but will not matter because of media blackout

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**Author:** ![TheSlapIsBack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/838e76/32.png) [@TheSlapIsBack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheSlapIsBack)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2012, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/swap-biden-for-clinton/631667/46 "2012-08-19T15:01:59Z")

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Biden will not be replaced for 2 resasons

a. Clinton does not want to be tarnished by Obama not being re elected or by the fact that the democratic party will be even less popular in 2016 after 4 more years of Obama

b. Obviously it would show desperation. Yes FDR did it 3 times but this is not a practice of modern electoral politics and the all media would view dropping Biden as exactly what is would be- Desperate.

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**Author:** ![enomaj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/59ef9b/32.png) [@enomaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enomaj)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2012, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/swap-biden-for-clinton/631667/47 "2012-08-21T21:09:16Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> People throw this idea out there once a week, and I assume most of them are just trying to fill column inches or meet a deadline. There is no chance it is going to happen unless **Biden keels over and dies.**

“Shades of Vince Foster?!” -Matt Drudge

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