# Swastikas in Christianity **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [November 23, 2009, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/swastikas-in-christianity/518692 "2009-11-23T21:05:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2009, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/swastikas-in-christianity/518692/1 "2009-11-23T21:05:15Z")
I have no wish to reignite the board’s [many](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=373751) [swastika](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=385026) [debates](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=385026) (though you can find my strongly held opinion on the matter in the linked threads); however, I saw something very odd this weekend and I wonder if anyone can shed some light on it. I was in Coventry Cathedral on Sunday, and saw a tomb of Bishop [Huyshe Wolcott Yeatman-Biggs](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huyshe_Wolcott_Yeatman-Biggs) who died in 1922. On the band around his mitre are three distinct swastikas. [Here’s a pic of one of them](http://www.crowaptok.com/images/swastika_bishop.jpg). Note that they are also pointing in the same direction as the Nazi symbol. Anyone have any ideas about the semiotics of the swastika in a Christian context? I’ve googled, and while many people mention the swastikas, nobody says what it symbolises. (N.B. his effigy is holding a model of the mediaeval cathedral: he was responsible for its restoration. Why are there raindrops on his effigy in my picture? Because his tomb lies in cathedral that was burned to the ground by Nazi incendiary bombs. Now _that’s_ irony.) ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2009, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/swastikas-in-christianity/518692/2 "2009-11-23T22:04:35Z")
Not specifically about Christianity, but Cecil had a few things to say about [swastikas](http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/440/was-the-swastika-actually-an-old-native-american-symbol). ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2009, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/swastikas-in-christianity/518692/3 "2009-11-23T22:52:41Z")
The Wikipedia page on Swastikas seems to be saying (in a rather sketchy way) that they have been used in Christianity as just another decorative variant of the cross symbol. > **[Swastika](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika#Medieval_and_Early_Modern_Europe)** > > The swastika (卐 or 卍) is an ancient religious and cultural symbol, predominantly in various Eurasian, as well as some African and American cultures, now also widely recognized for its appropriation by the Nazi Party and by neo-Nazis. It continues to be used as a symbol of divinity and spirituality in Indian religions, including Hinduism, Buddhism, and Jainism. It generally takes the form of a cross,\[A\] the arms of which are of equal length and perpendicular to the adjac The word swastika comes... ---
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2009, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/swastikas-in-christianity/518692/4 "2009-11-23T23:05:14Z")
[Fylfot?](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fylfot) ---
**Author:** ![ruadh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d2c977/32.png) [@ruadh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ruadh)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/swastikas-in-christianity/518692/5 "2009-11-24T06:43:11Z")
There was a Swastika Laundry in Dublin up until at least the mid 1970s. ---
**Author:** ![Wallenstein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b5a626/32.png) [@Wallenstein](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wallenstein)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/swastikas-in-christianity/518692/6 "2009-11-24T13:30:51Z")
I’ve seen swastikas in the chapel of Abbotsholme School in Derbyshire… the school has a tradition of mysticism though (school symbol is a pentangle) and was founded with a strong esoteric streak it its ethos, so although the school is christian it’s from an eastern-influenced perspective which might be why swastikas appear. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/swastikas-in-christianity/518692/7 "2009-11-24T22:31:58Z")
> [@jjimm](#): > > … they are also pointing in the same direction as the Nazi symbol. … It’s not just the direction, as seen in the first two pics the Wiki [page](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika), it’s also whether it’s upright or at a 45° angle (and there are exceptions to [both](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika#As_the_symbol_of_Nazism) (half way down the section)). It’s an incredibly old, amazingly wide spread, symbol. IMHO it’s always cool to see them\* (outside of that narrow _other_ usage). CMC fnord! \*I recently noticed, and approvingly commented on, the recently added swastika on my Indian born Hindu Doctor’s front door. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2009, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/swastikas-in-christianity/518692/8 "2009-11-26T18:33:13Z")
I visited the dig of a 4th century church in Ohrid, Macedonia last year, and there were swastikas in the iconography. Although Macedonians are Orthodox today, this dates from before the split between Roman Catholics and Eastern Orthodox. [You can see a picture if you have Facebook.](http://www.facebook.com/#/photo.php?pid=30052557&id=1120903582&fbid=1013167805724)[Another picture, with swastikas pointed in both directions.](http://www.facebook.com/#/photo.php?pid=30052560&id=1120903582&fbid=1013168765748)