# Sweden do-nothing approach good, US/UK/other countries' early do-nothing approach bad. Why?

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**Category:** The Quarantine Zone
**Tags:** covid-quarantine
**Created:** [April 3, 2020, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sweden-do-nothing-approach-good-us-uk-other-countries-early-do-nothing-approach-bad-why/850962 "2020-04-03T14:44:16Z")
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### Author: ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)
#### Post date: [October 31, 2020, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sweden-do-nothing-approach-good-us-uk-other-countries-early-do-nothing-approach-bad-why/850962/662 "2020-10-31T05:04:21Z")

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> [@SayTwo](#):
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> Though, I note that it’s been a somewhat tortuous road back to it for your country, and there seems to be a sense among some that you’ll always, at least in the short term, be walking on eggshells of sorts. And I suspect not every industry has quite fully recovered, even at that.

…“tortuous” as in “we had to stay home and the government paid us to do it” sort of way? And why would we be expecting every industry to have fully recovered when the world is in the middle of a global pandemic? What on earth are you even talking about?

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> It’s about what would have been, or would be, best on balance for the entire world.

What would be best for the world would be for the governments of the world to take Covid-19 seriously.

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> I still think that the most prescient thing ever said about New Zealand was from Professor Gupta, who likened their approach to ‘not vaccinating your children’. Had the entire world said ‘we’re in this together’ and not walled off any outsiders, the world would be far less dystopian than it is now.

Professor Gupta is full of shit. Her analogy is absolutely ridiculous and makes no sense. A better analogy would be New Zealand actually immunised our kids, the rest of the world refuses to immunise their kids, and are now kicking up a stink because we’ve done the right thing in keeping our kids safe.

Your world is dystopian because you’ve given up trying to control a global pandemic. It isn’t dystopian where I live. If we were to “join you” all we would accomplish is the death of thousands of New Zealanders. Why would you want us to do that?

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> And New Zealand is absolutely not among that bunch.

Why not?

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> Hell, they won’t even reciprocate with the Tasman bubble, will they?

Why should we? You are the first person I’ve heard that has argued that not reciprocating the bubble we’ve done something evil here.

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> I hope the vaccine they are waiting for is coming from their very own laboratories, but something tells me they’ll be purchasing it from some other government.

I wasn’t aware that we would be requiring a blood sacrifice in order to access a potential vaccine. How many dead New Zealanders would we need to provide? Do we match Sweden? 3000 cold dead bodies? Is that what you require?

Vaccine Alliance Aotearoa New Zealand is already working to provide support for Covid vacince research locally. And we have already earmarked hundreds of millions of dollars towards the global research effort. We’ve already agreed to purchase 1.5 million doses of a potential vaccine.

But all that isn’t good enough for you. We need to open our borders and let thousands of people die. And even that probably wouldn’t be enough.

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