# Sweet 17 and Still Never Been Kissed

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sweet-17-and-still-never-been-kissed/69731>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [June 22, 2001, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sweet-17-and-still-never-been-kissed/69731 "2001-06-22T02:14:06Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Rysdad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7cd45c/32.png) [@Rysdad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysdad)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2001, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sweet-17-and-still-never-been-kissed/69731/21 "2001-06-22T14:07:19Z")

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[QUOTE]  
\*Originally posted by Chum \*  
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> My Dark Lord, if only you lived in Minnesota… Wait - do you?\*\*

Vell, us Scandihoovians can be a bit uptight about dem sexual tings, dontcha know? Yust give it time, and before ya know, you’ll be yust a-kissin an a-huggin like nobody’s business.

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**Author:** ![Chum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ab097/32.png) [@Chum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chum)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2001, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sweet-17-and-still-never-been-kissed/69731/22 "2001-06-22T14:57:12Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Beelzebubba \*  
> Actually, I was wondering if I can cut-n-paste this list into the “What do you find sexy?” thread? That about sums it up for me, assuming that 3&5 mean your kinda obnoxious and sarcastic 😉 \*\*

Indeed they do. I was trying to phrase them in a less flattering way, I guess… Yeah, I am definitely obnoxious and sarcastic.

I know all about waiting for college. I dream about it. I realize that there will be some great guy there that I’ll really like and it could be a great first kiss. However, that is over A YEAR away. I don’t really want to wait that long.

I have never actually asked a guy out, but I did ask this one kid to a movie once. He said he’d go, then, on the day, he said that he wanted to go skateboarding. Oh well, he was just a pothead skater, anyway.

I know that most people who have crushes on other people hide it, but everyone else I know has heard about SOMEONE who liked them. After enough time goes by, I usually am pretty open about who I liked. This kid said to me a couple of days ago, “Is there anyone you HAVEN’T had a huge crush on?” The answer is, of course, yes. Oh - that brings up an awkward situation. After he said that, the kid I like, Sputnick, said, “Have you ever had a crush on me?” Horrible situation. There is nothing good that can be said here. I said, “Yeah, I do right now.” An absolute truth, but I had to say it like a joke, so he thinks it’s a joke. Does anyone know a good response to this situation?

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2001, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sweet-17-and-still-never-been-kissed/69731/23 "2001-06-22T19:22:41Z")

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Ha. I’ve got you all beat. I’m going to be 23 a week from Sunday-and I have yet to be kissed.

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**Author:** ![Helen\_s\_Eidolon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Helen\_s\_Eidolon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helen_s_Eidolon)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2001, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sweet-17-and-still-never-been-kissed/69731/24 "2001-06-22T19:39:13Z")

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This is gonna sound like another me-too post.

At 17, I had never been kissed, for one reason only: 'cause I only wanted to kiss someone I really liked. A few guys had asked me out (actually the college thing is true, I only ever had a great group of friends and ANY male friends after I went to CEGEP) but I always said no.

Anyway, until I realized that I liked this guy who I had been friends with for a year. And he apparently liked me back. To make a long story short, we have now been together for over a year and are very much in love. I would have hated my first kiss to have meant any less than it did.

The moral of the story? Being picky pays in the end.

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**Author:** ![VitrolicBump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/a587f6/32.png) [@VitrolicBump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VitrolicBump)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2001, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sweet-17-and-still-never-been-kissed/69731/25 "2001-06-22T23:09:49Z")

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Me, too. Never been kissed. Of course I would first have to be asked out. Never had that either. Nor have I ever asked a guy out. Too shy. Now I find myself on the flirty side. That’s what college does to ya. Or maybe it was this board. Hmmm…

Oh, and I am going to be the big 2-1 in October. I wonder if anything will happen then? Probably not, but hey, who cares? I will wait for it to come. Or the next(hot) guy who walks my way will be lunch. 😃

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2001, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sweet-17-and-still-never-been-kissed/69731/26 "2001-06-22T23:34:12Z")

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I think I feel a little better now…not much, though.

Dammit, when am I going to meet the Man of My DreamsTM

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**Author:** ![Dr.Lao](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2bfe46/32.png) [@Dr.Lao](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Lao)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2001, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sweet-17-and-still-never-been-kissed/69731/27 "2001-06-22T23:52:02Z")

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I know the feeling, **Guinastasia**. 22 and never kissed a girl. I just have no self confidence, I can never seem to be able to ask a girl out. On top of that I’m not the best looking guy in the world.

In your case, **Guin** , the guys of the world don’t know what their missing. I remember when your pic was still up at the Peoplepages, you are a real cutie.🙂

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**Author:** ![Darwins\_Finch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darwins_finch/32/20304_2.png) [@Darwins\_Finch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darwins_Finch)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2001, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sweet-17-and-still-never-been-kissed/69731/28 "2001-06-23T01:09:11Z")

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Ha! 32, never been kissed. Beat that, you losers!

Oh wait…that makes _me_ the loser here, doesn’t it…?

\<heavysigh\>

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2001, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sweet-17-and-still-never-been-kissed/69731/29 "2001-06-23T01:46:42Z")

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I used to be able to contribute to threads like this…

But I can’t anymore. I have now reached kissed status.

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2001, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sweet-17-and-still-never-been-kissed/69731/30 "2001-06-23T02:06:21Z")

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RickJay wrote:

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> Oh, and why not ask a few guys out yourself?

I’ve always maintained that if all the available females in the world worked up the gumption to ask out a guy just **once** a year, the lonely-hearts population would dwindle to next-to-nothing.

Yes, yes, ladies, I know the thought of asking a guy out is scary to you. You’re essentially “putting all your cards on the table” by admitting to him that, yes, indeed, you really are interested in him. You feel terribly vulnerable. If he says “no,” you’d feel heartbroken. Right?

But think – when a **guy** asks a **girl** out, he feels exactly this way. He, too, is putting all his cards on the table. He, too, will be devastated if she says no. **Every guy** who isn’t gay feels exactly the same way as you would, **each and every time** he asks out a girl! And yet _these guys all manage to survive the experience, don’t they!_

So go ahead. Ask one of those 6 guys at school you’re attracted to if he’d like to go see a movie with you. Ask _him_ to dance, instead of waiting for him to ask you. Believe it or not, a girl is actually **safer** asking a guy out than the other way around, because guys are a lot less likely to feel so threatened by the opposite sex’s advances that they’ll think she’s a stalker and get a court restraining order against her.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2001, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sweet-17-and-still-never-been-kissed/69731/31 "2001-06-23T02:47:10Z")

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Well…try, I’m incredibly shy, and have yet to meet a guy who comes up to my standards who doesn’t have a girlfriend.

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**Author:** ![Chum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ab097/32.png) [@Chum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chum)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2001, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sweet-17-and-still-never-been-kissed/69731/32 "2001-06-23T14:13:51Z")

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> \*Originally posted by tracer \*  
> \*\*RickJay wrote:
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> So go ahead. Ask one of those 6 guys at school you’re attracted to if he’d like to go see a movie with you. Ask _him_ to dance, instead of waiting for him to ask you. Believe it or not, a girl is actually **safer** asking a guy out than the other way around, because guys are a lot less likely to feel so threatened by the opposite sex’s advances that they’ll think she’s a stalker and get a court restraining order against her. \*\*

As I said, I have asked a guy to a movie, and nothing happened. I have a similar problem to Guinastasia’s - all the good ones are taken. I am so severely picky that my crushes are always few and far between. I don’t know how this guy I like right now is going to work out. He’s two years younger than me (my little brother’s grade), so that’s a little weird. I think I’m just going to tell him what I think of him. Maybe I’ll write it in a letter from London - I’m leaving on Tuesday. Seriously, I think about this kid all the time. Biggest crush I’ve had in a long while. Problem is, I think the guy that I started to be friends with first in their group might like me. I like him, but NOT like that. Well, I’m not even sure if he likes me, but it seems a possibility. He might get hurt to find out that I like his younger friend. Ahhh! What to do?

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**Author:** ![red\_dragon60](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ce73a5/32.png) [@red\_dragon60](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/red_dragon60)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2001, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sweet-17-and-still-never-been-kissed/69731/33 "2001-06-23T18:08:59Z")

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I like short girls. I am 16. I am sardonic, sarcastic, caustic and smart. And hella-cool! I second (or third) the comment, Got Pics? I do. [http://www.geocities.com/reddragon60](http://www.geocities.com/reddragon60) . And I hafta say, wait for a certain guy to come along. It’ll be something you remember forever, why waste it?

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**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2001, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sweet-17-and-still-never-been-kissed/69731/34 "2001-06-23T19:11:28Z")

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> I have never actually asked a guy out, but I did ask this one kid to a movie once. He said he’d go, then, on the day, he said that he wanted to go skateboarding. Oh well, he was just a pothead skater, anyway.

Another piece of advice from a guy point of view(although it works the other way too). Asking somebody out is seriously nerve racking. And the natural way to approach it is to sort of timidly imply that you would like to go out. This leads to the “friendly evening or date” dilemma on the other person’s part. Does she just want to hang out as friends and will she feel like I’m betraying the trust of friendship if I make a move, or is she asking me on a date, and will think I don’t like her if I don’t. Most guys are unused to being approached and especially if they are used to fitting the guy friend role rather than the date role(like me, sigh) they will sit in a movie, next to the girl they are hot for, trying to best the best friend in the world. A girl can grab a guy’s arm or play with his hair to make it obvious she is interested(although lots of guys miss that too) but if a guy touches the girl first he is risking a big step into asshole territory, so most guys won’t do it.

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**Author:** ![BlackKnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eb8c5e/32.png) [@BlackKnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlackKnight)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2001, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sweet-17-and-still-never-been-kissed/69731/35 "2001-06-23T19:59:29Z")

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I was 19 when I got my first kiss. I still regret it, as I do the other two kisses I’ve recieved so far this life.

_sigh_

On another note, I do live in Minnesota. So Chum, how YOU doing? 😃

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**Author:** ![Chum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ab097/32.png) [@Chum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chum)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2001, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sweet-17-and-still-never-been-kissed/69731/36 "2001-06-23T20:26:27Z")

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> \*Originally posted by wolfman \*  
> Asking somebody out is seriously nerve racking. And the natural way to approach it is to sort of timidly imply that you would like to go out. This leads to the “friendly evening or date” dilemma on the other person’s part. \*\*

I’m aware of that. I don’t think that’s a bad thing, though. I feel like if I worked up enough courage to ask if he wanted to see a movie, he can work up enough courage to ask whether or not it’s a date.

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> \*Originally posted by wolfman \*  
> A girl can grab a guy’s arm or play with his hair to make it obvious she is interested(although lots of guys miss that too) but if a guy touches the girl first he is risking a big step into asshole territory, so most guys won’t do it. \*\*

I know that guys miss obvious hints. Idiots… I think that if I were actually on I date, I wouldn’t have a problem initiating the first physical contact - especially if the guy had asked me.

So many picky little rules and complications to dating! Why can’t there just be some hot guy that lives next door who will make out with me whenever I want him to. BlackKnight, are you my next door neighbor? 😉

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**Author:** ![Chum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ab097/32.png) [@Chum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chum)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2001, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sweet-17-and-still-never-been-kissed/69731/37 "2001-06-23T20:40:17Z")

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I keep neglecting to answer whether or not I have any pictures of myself. Well, I don’t have a scanner, but my friend does, so I have a couple. Trouble is, they are from when we dressed up like psychos and took pictures of us with a bunch of potatoes. We even wrapped up some potatoes and were whipping them around. I know. I am quite odd. We were doing a project on the Irish Potato Famine, and we wanted some strange picures for the end of our Power Point presentation. Anyway, these pictures, taken when I was in 10th grade, make me look about 10 years old. Sad. Email me if you want to see them (I don’t know why you would). [RustyStew@hotmail.com](mailto:RustyStew@hotmail.com)

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**Author:** ![mikeymichaels](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ee7513/32.png) [@mikeymichaels](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mikeymichaels)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2001, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sweet-17-and-still-never-been-kissed/69731/38 "2001-06-25T07:56:02Z")

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To Chum: Be direct. The mistake you’re making is that many women give men hints that don’t mean much to the man in and of themselves. For example:

1. A woman walks by a man.
2. A woman laughs at a man’s joke.
3. A woman looks at a man.
4. A woman says “Hi” to a man.
5. A woman asks a man a question.

Each of these indicators might be a way for you to express your interest in a man…but to a man, these actions are normal expressions of daily communication…and don’t necessarily mean that a woman likes him at all.

When a man really likes you and really wants you…you will know. Men are obvious. Men know they have to take the risks in approaching a woman most of the time…and they tend to be direct and want to get to the point.

My advice to Chum is: Don’t wait for a man to ask you out…ask a man that you like on a date and be clear with him.

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**Author:** ![Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19adc/32.png) [@Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2001, 9:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sweet-17-and-still-never-been-kissed/69731/39 "2001-06-25T09:57:32Z")

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All I have to say is :Don’t Worry.

I went from never being kissed to having sex in 10 days. It can happen to you too! Although it may not be the _best_ thing.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2001, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sweet-17-and-still-never-been-kissed/69731/40 "2001-06-25T14:54:15Z")

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To all the ladies out there saying that they have never been kissed: I’m more than willing to offer my services to anyone that feels the need.

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