# Sweetheart, you lost me at "drunk driving"

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sweetheart-you-lost-me-at-drunk-driving/405168>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 23, 2007, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sweetheart-you-lost-me-at-drunk-driving/405168 "2007-05-23T01:46:55Z")\
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**Author:** ![Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/c4cdca/32.png) [@Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quiddity_Glomfuster)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2007, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sweetheart-you-lost-me-at-drunk-driving/405168/21 "2007-05-23T07:25:25Z")

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[QUOTE=Gary Kumquat]  
Oh come on, you know he’s got a point. The vast majority of people of both genders are shallow and would find someone more attractive if they have an expensive car as it hints that they have money.  
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I’d dispute ‘vast majority’ but even if so, what’s the big deal? Are you guys seriously looking for ‘shallow’? Of course, this assumes this thread is about finding a partner (which I also assumed the OP might be thinking about) rather than just a warm body to squirm around with.

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> 1. He’s not wrong to think he’ll attract more women with a nicer car. Same also goes for nicer clothes, better haircut, etc.

Granted, if you’re about quantity rather than quality, that may be the case. But how dull.

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**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2007, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sweetheart-you-lost-me-at-drunk-driving/405168/22 "2007-05-23T07:39:09Z")

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[QUOTE=hawksgirl]  
But would you discuss your plans to buy a car _to get chicks_ with a potential date? If I wanted to impress someone, I’d talk about charity and investments myself.  
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Yeah, fair enough. If his first words to you on the date were about scoring “pussy” with his car, frankly he deserves all the upbraiding he can get. **TokyoPlayer** is right on the money about that.

But if a guy mentioned his plans to buy an expensive car _without_ the kind of crude attitude the OP talked about, and was told that he should spend his money in other ways instead, I’d think it was preachy. Sure, charity and investments are worthy things to talk about, but not as a rebuttal to someone’s perceived skewed priorities.

But I like the fact that the OP put this shmuck in his place.

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2007, 8:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sweetheart-you-lost-me-at-drunk-driving/405168/23 "2007-05-23T08:02:05Z")

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Okay, I jumped around [heifer.org](http://www.heifer.org/) for a bit. Still don’t know what an ark of livestock is. Which seems to indicate that you have to be pretty deep into this thing to think of arks of livestock when you have 50K to spend.

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**Author:** ![Charger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/df788c/32.png) [@Charger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charger)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2007, 8:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sweetheart-you-lost-me-at-drunk-driving/405168/24 "2007-05-23T08:04:33Z")

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I’m a nice guy, polite, strong work ethic, funny, safety conscious, honest, I rarely drink, don’t smoke, hold my farts whenever possible, and I own a $30,000 car which has been restored with no intent (or ability) to attract women. Still…

[QUOTE=phouka]  
The trouble with Joe? Even though he has an adorably big nose, muscles, and a fun-fun, laidback demeanor?  
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…makes me think it is my normal-sized nose which is my curse.

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**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2007, 8:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sweetheart-you-lost-me-at-drunk-driving/405168/25 "2007-05-23T08:37:40Z")

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[QUOTE=Quiddity Glomfuster]  
I’d dispute ‘vast majority’ but even if so, what’s the big deal? Are you guys seriously looking for ‘shallow’? Of course, this assumes this thread is about finding a partner (which I also assumed the OP might be thinking about) rather than just a warm body to squirm around with.  
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I’ve got bad news for you, but yes many, many young men are purely looking to get laid as often as possible. We tend to grow out of it, but really don’t pretend that this is somehow a revelation. And it’s not just men who are that shallow, as frankly I managed to get laid on many an occasion, and mostly that was because I wore fashionable clothes, drove a nice car, worked out and basically relied on many other silly little factors that a lot of women seemed to go for.

Yes it’s shallow, but there you go. I have no idea why men like to do this, but judging by how many of us go through a stage like that either there’s something in the water, or the media makes us desire it, or it’s genetic, or we’re all terribly insecure and trying to validate ourselves, or god knows what - but rolling your eyes at Deth just because he states the obvious is just kidding yourself.

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> Granted, if you’re about quantity rather than quality, that may be the case. But how dull.

Nope, quite often gratuitous sex was anything but dull. I know that we’d like to think that people who get laid a lot all have a deep hollowness inside that mere copulation with as many attractive people as you can get your paws on, but frankly from ages 17 - 27 I found it all incredibly satisfying and interesting. Seriously, why would you find lots of sex dull?

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**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2007, 8:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sweetheart-you-lost-me-at-drunk-driving/405168/26 "2007-05-23T08:43:50Z")

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[QUOTE=phouka]  
I begged off, citing an upset stomach, checked my watch to make sure enough time had passed that my own alcoholic drink had been metabolized, went home, and looked at online porn. Well, not that much porn, but I did have to exorcize my mother’s spirit.  
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What kind of porn?

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2007, 9:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sweetheart-you-lost-me-at-drunk-driving/405168/27 "2007-05-23T09:17:00Z")

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[QUOTE=Gary Kumquat]  
Nope, quite often gratuitous sex was anything but dull. I know that we’d like to think that people who get laid a lot all have a deep hollowness inside that mere copulation with as many attractive people as you can get your paws on, but frankly from ages 17 - 27 I found it all incredibly satisfying and interesting. Seriously, why would you find lots of sex dull?  
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Didn’t you get the memo? People with nothing better to do with their time than post to the Dope a hundred times a week are in the perfect position to lecture other people about quality of life. 😃

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**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2007, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sweetheart-you-lost-me-at-drunk-driving/405168/28 "2007-05-23T12:09:27Z")

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**phouka** , if the guy had used the word ‘pillock’ in any context, would you have jumped his bones?

And, can you really buy a house of any kind in Plano for $150K? I bought a house in Plano (1705 Judy Lane IIRC) for $14.5K back in 1962; back in the 80s and 90s, customers of mine from the Plano area threw around figures in the $300 to $500K range for that specific address.

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**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2007, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sweetheart-you-lost-me-at-drunk-driving/405168/29 "2007-05-23T12:41:18Z")

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[QUOTE=Rilchiam]  
Okay, I jumped around [heifer.org](http://www.heifer.org/) for a bit. Still don’t know what an ark of livestock is. Which seems to indicate that you have to be pretty deep into this thing to think of arks of livestock when you have 50K to spend.  
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Actually, you just have to look in the catalog, although I note there aren’t as many details in the online one. Basically, you give [Heifer.org](http://Heifer.org) five grand, and they send a metric shitload of farm animals to someplace poor.

(there are smaller donation amount for smaller things, too, starting with the $40 for a flock of geese/ducks)

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**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2007, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sweetheart-you-lost-me-at-drunk-driving/405168/30 "2007-05-23T12:44:48Z")

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[QUOTE=Charger]  
I’m a nice guy, polite, strong work ethic, funny, safety conscious, honest, I rarely drink, don’t smoke, hold my farts whenever possible, and I own a $30,000 car which has been restored with no intent (or ability) to attract women. Still…

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Sweetheart, you lost me at “fart-holding”. 😃

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2007, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sweetheart-you-lost-me-at-drunk-driving/405168/31 "2007-05-23T12:49:22Z")

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**Zeriel** : Yeah, I figured that much out. But how many animals in an ark? What’s the benefit to the recipient? And all like that. Seems a bit presumptuous to list arks of livestock along with houses and retirement funds, as if they’re all equally obvious choices.

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**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2007, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sweetheart-you-lost-me-at-drunk-driving/405168/32 "2007-05-23T13:15:44Z")

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[QUOTE=Quiddity Glomfusters]  
Granted, if you’re about quantity rather than quality, that may be the case. But how dull.  
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[QUOTE=Gary Kumquat]  
Nope, quite often gratuitous sex was anything but dull. I know that we’d like to think that people who get laid a lot all have a deep hollowness inside that mere copulation with as many attractive people as you can get your paws on, but frankly from ages 17 - 27 I found it all incredibly satisfying and interesting. Seriously, why would you find lots of sex dull?  
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Naw, **Quiddity Glomfuster** s right. Theres a level of maturity where sex with a dull person **IS** dull.

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2007, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sweetheart-you-lost-me-at-drunk-driving/405168/33 "2007-05-23T13:27:04Z")

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There’s no denying that many, many girls will sleep with a guy with a 50K car. But we (normally) don’t marry those guys. 🙂

However, there are a percentage of girls who will go entirely the opposite way and not sleep with you at all if you are too flashy.

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**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2007, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sweetheart-you-lost-me-at-drunk-driving/405168/34 "2007-05-23T13:31:50Z")

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[QUOTE=phouka]  
My ovaries begin to sing.  
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What a great line.

[Quote=Quiddity Glomfuster]  
Granted, if you’re about quantity rather than quality, that may be the case.  
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Sometimes one 5 (on the keeper scale) is better than zero tens.

[Quote=Rilchiam]  
But how many animals in an ark?  
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Two of each, silly. 😉

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**Author:** ![FordPrefect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e99b99/32.png) [@FordPrefect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FordPrefect)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2007, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sweetheart-you-lost-me-at-drunk-driving/405168/35 "2007-05-23T13:38:55Z")

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[QUOTE=Anaamika]  
I stopped reading at this point. He is telling a prospective \*lay \*this?

Idiot.  
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You are one funny chick, did ya know that? 🙂

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2007, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sweetheart-you-lost-me-at-drunk-driving/405168/36 "2007-05-23T13:45:12Z")

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[QUOTE=FordPrefect]  
You are one funny chick, did ya know that? 🙂  
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Awww, shucks! Thanks.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2007, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sweetheart-you-lost-me-at-drunk-driving/405168/37 "2007-05-23T14:08:56Z")

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[QUOTE=Rigamarole]  
What kind of porn?  
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Naked drunk guys driving Ferraris, I bet. **phouka** ’s not fooling anyone!

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2007, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sweetheart-you-lost-me-at-drunk-driving/405168/38 "2007-05-23T14:10:16Z")

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[QUOTE=TokyoPlayer]  
Obviously he had no interest in the OP, it’s still not classy to talk about “pussy” with a woman you’ve just met.

How old was this guy anyway?  
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Do you mean physically or mentally?

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2007, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sweetheart-you-lost-me-at-drunk-driving/405168/39 "2007-05-23T14:35:57Z")

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I have a 7-year old truck. Good thing I’m already hooked up!

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2007, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sweetheart-you-lost-me-at-drunk-driving/405168/40 "2007-05-23T14:38:17Z")

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[QUOTE=Anaamika]  
There’s no denying that many, many girls will sleep with a guy with a 50K car. But we (normally) don’t marry those guys. 🙂

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Where’s the downside? 😛

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