# Swift boating John McCain **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 11, 2008, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/swift-boating-john-mccain/437107 "2008-02-11T02:53:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2008, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/swift-boating-john-mccain/437107/21 "2008-02-11T06:00:31Z")
Not that anyone cares but McCain is the only Republican so far in my lifetime that I’d consider voting for for president. ---
**Author:** ![jaydotbeedot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/54ee81/32.png) [@jaydotbeedot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jaydotbeedot)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2008, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/swift-boating-john-mccain/437107/22 "2008-02-11T06:00:59Z")
So does mean he still has the illegitimate black child, or not? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2008, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/swift-boating-john-mccain/437107/23 "2008-02-11T06:15:02Z")
Sacrificed to his Dark Lord. ---
**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2008, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/swift-boating-john-mccain/437107/24 "2008-02-11T06:23:01Z")
[QUOTE=SwiftNutters] and re-establish the real conservative roots of the Republican Party. [/QUOTE] An [early view](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b9/1856-Republican-party-Fremont-isms-caricature.jpg) of the GOP 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2008, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/swift-boating-john-mccain/437107/25 "2008-02-11T06:43:17Z")
What? McCain waterskiis? Hell! I’ll take him! Whats this about? ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2008, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/swift-boating-john-mccain/437107/26 "2008-02-11T06:51:56Z")
Let them shut out McCain and put in place a much more right wing candidate. That will simply make it more difficult for them to get the very much needed votes from the American center in the next presidential election. If dumping McCain is what it takes for the pubbies to lose the presidential election, then more power to them in trying to dump him. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2008, 9:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/swift-boating-john-mccain/437107/27 "2008-02-11T09:03:54Z")
Who is Ted Sampley? I read all the Swiftboat stuff, and never saw his name. The article says ‘remants of Swiftboat Veterans for Truth’, but the only person mentioned is Sampley. The Swiftboat Vets for truth were all Navy men - all of them had a very specific reason for going after Kerry. I would be very surprised if the people who were the actual Swiftboat Vets got involved in this in any way. I think this may be a smear campaign. I don’t recognize the site the link is from. What exactly is it? ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2008, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/swift-boating-john-mccain/437107/28 "2008-02-11T11:38:12Z")
[QUOTE=Sam Stone] Who is Ted Sampley? I read all the Swiftboat stuff, and never saw his name. The article says ‘remants of Swiftboat Veterans for Truth’, but the only person mentioned is Sampley. The Swiftboat Vets for truth were all Navy men - all of them had a very specific reason for going after Kerry. I would be very surprised if the people who were the actual Swiftboat Vets got involved in this in any way. I think this may be a smear campaign. I don’t recognize the site the link is from. What exactly is it? [/QUOTE] Maybe [these guys can answer your questions.](http://gopteaparty.com/) ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2008, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/swift-boating-john-mccain/437107/29 "2008-02-11T14:54:44Z")
How do you figure? I don’t see any Swiftboaters at that site, either. ---
**Author:** ![ArizonaTeach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/45deac/32.png) [@ArizonaTeach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ArizonaTeach)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2008, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/swift-boating-john-mccain/437107/30 "2008-02-11T14:55:41Z")
[QUOTE=Sam Stone] Who is Ted Sampley? I read all the Swiftboat stuff, and never saw his name. The article says ‘remants of Swiftboat Veterans for Truth’, but the only person mentioned is Sampley. The Swiftboat Vets for truth were all Navy men - all of them had a very specific reason for going after Kerry. I would be very surprised if the people who were the actual Swiftboat Vets got involved in this in any way. I think this may be a smear campaign. I don’t recognize the site the link is from. What exactly is it? [/QUOTE] It’s the Alex Jones Show. Jeez, you know…Alex Jones…of the Alex Jones Show…hosted by Alex Jones…from the website: > [@Alex Jones](#): > > Jones predicted the attacks on September 11th, 2001 and is considered one of the very first founding fathers of the 9-11 Truth Movement. So you **know** it’s all good. Oh, it gets better: > [@Alex Jones](#): > > He has been featured in countless publications, television and radio programs and has himself made an incredible 15 documentary films covering a wide range of important social and geo-political issues. > > From implanted microchips to the police state, The Alex Jones Show has the daily developments and important guests to bring you the real truth and nothing but. ---
**Author:** ![ArizonaTeach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/45deac/32.png) [@ArizonaTeach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ArizonaTeach)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2008, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/swift-boating-john-mccain/437107/31 "2008-02-11T15:06:38Z")
Oh, as far as Ted Sampley goes, [read this.](http://www.miafacts.org/prankster.htm) So, yeah, liberal wet dream. Nice try. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2008, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/swift-boating-john-mccain/437107/32 "2008-02-11T15:47:56Z")
Here’s an [AP story](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2008/01/mccains_campaign_criticizes_gr.php) (re-posted on a blog site, but looks legit) about this. Here’s another [CBS](http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/01/15/politics/main3718704.shtml) story. There’s quite a bit more; just google “Vietnam Veterans Against John McCain” in google news. ---
**Author:** ![WreckingCrew](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wreckingcrew/32/4080_2.png) [@WreckingCrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WreckingCrew)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2008, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/swift-boating-john-mccain/437107/33 "2008-02-11T18:20:58Z")
I have already sent them my idea for their first ad "John McCain - he surrendered in Viet Nam, now he will surrender America! Once a quitter, always a quitter. ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2008, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/swift-boating-john-mccain/437107/34 "2008-02-11T23:27:19Z")
[QUOTE=RickJay] He’s a Cylon! [/QUOTE] He’s a Werewolf! ---
**Author:** ![Giles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giles/32/60_2.png) [@Giles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giles)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2008, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/swift-boating-john-mccain/437107/35 "2008-02-11T23:30:38Z")
[QUOTE=WreckingCrew] "John McCain - he surrendered in Viet Nam, now he will surrender America! Once a quitter, always a quitter. [/QUOTE] It’s just as well that Gerald Ford, who really did quit in Vietnam, is unable to run this presidential election 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2008, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/swift-boating-john-mccain/437107/36 "2008-02-11T23:32:45Z")
Or a Witch. Does he weigh less than a duck? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2008, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/swift-boating-john-mccain/437107/37 "2008-02-11T23:35:09Z")
[QUOTE=Bosda Di’Chi of Tricor] He’s a Werewolf! [/QUOTE] He’s a Cylon _and_ a werewolf! By day, he’s indistinguishable from a normal human, but when the moon is full, he turns into a Roomba. ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2008, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/swift-boating-john-mccain/437107/38 "2008-02-11T23:37:41Z")
[QUOTE=Miller] He’s a Cylon _and_ a werewolf! By day, he’s indistinguishable from a normal human, but when the moon is full, he turns into a Roomba. [/QUOTE] And a Duck! So… what? Feathers? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2008, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/swift-boating-john-mccain/437107/39 "2008-02-12T01:54:19Z")
[QUOTE=madmonk28] My parents are right-wing nuts, they contend that John McCain lived a life of luxury in the POW camp and was an informer who turned on his fellow prisoners. They also think he is a Manchurian candidate brainwashed by the Chinese to give them the United States. They get all this from hate radio, [/quote] Cite? Really? Who on the radio is saying this? ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2008, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/swift-boating-john-mccain/437107/40 "2008-02-12T01:56:29Z")
[QUOTE=Richard Parker] Are \*\*Scylla \*\*and \*\*Sam Stone \*\*still around? It would be interesting to get their takes when the tables are turned. [/QUOTE] Generous of you, but hardly fair. I took the Swiftvets pretty seriously. This doesn’t seem like anything. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/swift-boating-john-mccain/437107.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/swift-boating-john-mccain/437107.md?page=3)