Swimming and bone density

Oh please show me where I contradicted myself.

I am not suggesting anything. All I was simply saying was that the Original Poster’s question was “I want to know why there are no African American swimmers in the olympics. Does it have anything to do with the density of there bones or do African Americans in general shy away from swimming
His question, as stated in the OP, was dubious indeed. When asked for clarification, he specified African Americans. That is as plain as it gets. And somehow you are trying to deny that. I don’t get it. This shouldn’t even have become an issue. He said it. Read it, and get over it.

His question, as restated, allows us to ponder all the factors like primary urban city habitation, obesity, popularity and availability of sports like basketball, expense of swimming, lack of appeal of great champion swimmer. All of which have been brought up. And yes, even bone density. But bone density was only one suggested hypothesis - one that I think makes the least amount of sense.

However, and Im sorry if it insulted you, the fact that there are a lot of black Jamaicans on the Jamaican Olympic swim team (big suprise) has nothing to do with the question.

And yes I read your link about the champion swimmers. There were a lot of college athletes and some guys from other countries, but number 10 was an African American Olympic champion. Good find.
The only problem I saw there was in your wording. Saying “black (African American)” to me means your saying both are the same thing. And it’s not. Not all the black swimmers on that page were American. Shit, Anthony Nesty was not African or North American. He’s from Suriname! Are we going to classify champion swimmers from the Virgin Islands as African Americans too??

Just stick to the parameters provided by the OP. If he wants to discuss everyone with black skin or maybe people only decended from a certain specific region, then, as telemark requested he can specify it anyway he wants. Right down to a specific shade if he wants to. It’s his thread it’s his choice.

But you clearly confused “black <=> African American”. The words are not interchangeable and they shouldn’t be. Not when there’s a whole other world out there.
I guess that’s the problem when the Bucs and the Marlins are both World Champions yet they’ve only beaten Americans… forget there’s anyone else out there.

Plain and simple, the OP laid down specifics. You can argue semantics if you want too, because maybe I should have let it go. But you can’t argue that I’m wrong, because clearly I am not.

There are no African American, and by that I’m going to mean only Americans, because you only get X number of spots on the Olympic Swimming team. I believe X is in the low 20s for both men and women. So you have to be very very good to even come close to making the team.

On top of that swimming is very expensive. Not just to have a pool around, but just to go. I pay ~1000 a year to swim twice a week for an hour each time. Olympic swimmers spend upwards of 70 hours a week in the pool. That doesn’t mean you’ll spend 35k on swimming but you will spend at least a few thousand a year. On top of even that there is little money to be made as a swimmer. When was the last time you saw a swimmer on TV?

There are black swimmers from other countries, but in reality the best swimmers in the world are generally from the US, Russia, China and Australia. Most people do not have the money, nor the time to put in to be a great swimmer, it has nothing to do with bone density.

Bear, sit down and be quiet. You have no point to argue, no reason to do it, and no evidence to do it with; and taking up 1/4 of an entire thread to defend your own two irrelevant sentences (rather than just dropping it) when you are in the wrong doesn’t make it right.

If you want another example fine:

No it wasn’t, it was plain as day. This has already been pointed out to you.

You don’t get it because you are reading imaginary things - nobody asked him for clarification. He simply restated his question to be more annoying and hasn’t been back since showing he doesn’t even care; get that? If you can’t understand simple concepts like sarcasm and can’t perform simple tasks like reading poster’s names in the quotes to see who is being asked what, then walking you through this is pointless.

Find the original post, read it, and look for your special words. After you don’t see them, read the rest of the thread and find where snowrunnr or anyone else agrees and backs you up. When you don’t find that, please stop embarrassing/annoying everyone and drop the hijack. I’ve wasted enough time trying to open your eyes so I’m done here.

Anthony Ervin won two medals on the U.S. Swim Team at the Sydney Olympics.

From here

Ok Big Guy. Whatever you say.

May I just recommend lying down with a cool cloth over your forehead - you seem a touch worked up.