Ass-raping.
c/s This whole episode is bullshit and a complete waste of time. The victim has even requested that the incident be ended.
On the first point: Polanski was never sentenced. To claim that he may have served a sentence that was never imposed is absurd.
On the second point: I don’t see how the principle of laches can possibly apply here. For laches to be applicable the delay must have harmed the defendant appreciably. It cannot be argued that Polanski is worse off having been free for so many years and is only now being arrested.
Tu quoques do not impress me.
While the “police state” thing is OTT. There are issues with extraditing to the States. No person facing the death penalty would be extradited from Europe for example unless there was a guarantee that the person would not be executed.
Here’s a recent example where a absolute scumbag is not being extradited(or at least having the process delayed) due to the conditions he may and others may face in The States
The crime of drugging and raping a 13 year old is bullshit? That the victim requests it be ended is irrelevant. Drugging and raping a kid is a crime whether or not she wants to pursue prosecution.
um, no it doesn’t. (again, I’m not talking that “laches” is what is used here - but the concept that no one raised a peep in Switzerland after his many years of back and forth travel, and it’s now unfair to bust him for it, is a laches-esque kind of concept)
Do as we say, not as we do, I see.
So they’re not releasing this guy to the US because they fear he may go to Gitmo? Be tortured? The article isn’t clear.
Vague worries about what an ally might do to a scumbag like that seems…well, kinda lame.
How on earth is it unfair to Polanski that his free ride had come to an end?
But … but they are the US Government. Don’t the Swiss know that what they says goes no matter what?
I wonder if the Swiss are threatening the USA with one of the less useful but equally bizarre knife attachments.
“They’ve got a round pokey-thingie coming off the knife! Sir, be careful, we don’t know what that thing is or what it can do! Step back!”
Not to hijack the conversation further, but I will say that I am always a little surprised at the amount of discussion that goes on about the Polanski case, when there have been many extradition cases that I think are much more interesting or significant. A couple off the type of my head:
The US is refusing extradition of Warren Anderson, former chairman of Union Carbide, who fled India in 1984 while released on bail. (Warren Anderson was charged with manslaughter, relating to negligence in the industrical accident at Bhopal in 1984: 20,000 people died.)
General Augusto Pinochet was arrested in the UK in 1998, and was arrested under an international arrest warrant issued by a judge in Spain, accusing Pinochet of complicity in the 94 counts of torture of Spanish citizens and the 1975 assassination of Spanish diplomat Carmelo Soria. The UK’s Home Secretary, after many months, decided that Pinochet could return to Chile.
I wish these cases would have been as vigorously discussed in the USA as the Polanski case has been.
The problem is with SuperMax prisons which hold prisoners basically in eprmanent solitary confinement from what I can see.
The guy being a scumbag or not doesn’t really matter. The law is the law and while the US doesn’t have to adhere to the European idea of human rights, Europe doesn’t have to subject it’s citizens to illegal treatment from it’s POV.
The offense is one against society, not one just against a person. That is why it is a criminal matter, and not one at civil law. I really do not care how much she was paid to say what.
I understand, thanks for the clarification. I was wondering what the specific issue was WRT extradition in terms of meeting some standard of what’s considered humanitarian treatment.
FTR, if I ever decide to murder a bunch of people, I am so fleeing to Finland!
it’s not an unfairness per se. he had been traveling back and forth from switzerland numerous times and nothing happens. US doesn’t bother trying to extradite, switzerland doesn’t pick him up being subject to the international arrest warrant. so at some point it gets to be where he may be able to rely on that fact when he keeps going back and forth. .
generally, criminal law isn’t subject to this go-free-because-of-non-prosecution. but a) swiss laws are different, and b) this is extradition stuff isn’t normal criminal law.
Correct you are. Thank you.
Exactly. Next thing you know France will declare war on you and…surrender.
Good for the Swiss for not letting the U.S. bully them.
The 3500 French soldiers fighting with your guys in Afghanistan haven’t surrendered yet.
Is it called ‘Roman Polanski: Wanted and Desired’? I see it’s available as an instant-view on Netflix, I might watch this.