# Syfy cancels Eureka

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [August 9, 2011, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/syfy-cancels-eureka/592117 "2011-08-09T19:34:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2011, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/syfy-cancels-eureka/592117/21 "2011-08-10T16:13:42Z")

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Damn it.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2011, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/syfy-cancels-eureka/592117/22 "2011-08-10T16:18:13Z")

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They could still bring Nathan Stark back, because they haven’t established that he died in this timeline, have they?

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2011, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/syfy-cancels-eureka/592117/23 "2011-08-10T17:43:52Z")

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> [@Bosstone](#):
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> I don’t think anyone would have any objection to a, yanno, _science fiction_ money-maker.
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> It’s just a little ridiculous that their biggest draw is something that’s completely and totally unrelated to the ostensible genre the channel claims (or claimed) to target.

Good science fiction or fantasy, sadly, does not seem to be a great money maker on commercial TV. And let’s be honest here…SyFy doesn’t have the budget to try to do something similar to _Game of Thrones_. What we get is decent to good budget science fiction, plus lots of cheap to produce shows and movies which are done on less of a budget than a single episode of _Two and a Half Men_.

I’m both a wrestling fan and a science fiction fan, and I would love more series like Firefly, Eureka, Farscape, and maybe a few fantasy series thrown in. Personally, I could do without the movies, but different strokes and all that. Sadly, people like you and I aren’t plentiful enough to support that many series. [I also don’t care which of NBC Universal’s channels wrestling ends up on, I just don’t decry its current placement.]

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2011, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/syfy-cancels-eureka/592117/24 "2011-08-10T17:47:36Z")

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> [@GythaOgg](#):
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> The show is getting the best ratings it’s ever gotten, and they’re actually going up with each episode. The whispers out there - including a cryptic twitter from Executive Producer Amy Berg - seem to indicate that the cancellation was a financial decision made NOT by Syfy, who apparently wanted to continue the show, but by parent company Comcast for financial reasons.
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> The show’s hit the point where various contracts are up for renegotiation and increases and they don’t want to pay out. ☹

That’s what killed Farscape. And Married with Children. Ratings aren’t everything. Profitability counts too.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2011, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/syfy-cancels-eureka/592117/25 "2011-08-10T18:33:15Z")

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> [@GythaOgg](#):
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> The show is getting the best ratings it’s ever gotten, and they’re actually going up with each episode. The whispers out there - including a cryptic twitter from Executive Producer Amy Berg - seem to indicate that the cancellation was a financial decision made NOT by Syfy, who apparently wanted to continue the show, but by parent company Comcast for financial reasons.
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> The show’s hit the point where various contracts are up for renegotiation and increases and they don’t want to pay out. ☹

Yup. The same thing happened with _House._ Albeit on a different network, House is also distributed by Universal Media Studios, which is owned by Comcast and demanded substantial budget cuts, including salary cuts for most of the cast save Hugh Laurie, Robert Sean Leonard, and Olivia Wilde. Lisa Edelstein declined to sign a new contract for season 8.

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2011, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/syfy-cancels-eureka/592117/26 "2011-08-10T19:06:22Z")

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> [@D\_Odds](#):
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> Good science fiction or fantasy, sadly, does not seem to be a great money maker on commercial TV.

Yeah, and that’s as strong a reason as Siffy’s executive decisions for my frustration, that sci-fi alone is not a profitable venture.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2011, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/syfy-cancels-eureka/592117/27 "2011-08-10T20:15:39Z")

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> [@RikWriter](#):
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> Well, I now officially have no reason to ever tune to SyFy ever again.

This. That’s it for them.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2011, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/syfy-cancels-eureka/592117/28 "2011-08-10T20:19:58Z")

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On the other hand, I can’t see any particular reason to keep the show going. Of five seasons, they’ve already done four complete resets of the characters (at the start of each new season after the first), so it’s not like we’re really ever going to see something new. The best we’ll ever get is a gentle decline into shark jumping territory. Why get there?

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**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2011, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/syfy-cancels-eureka/592117/29 "2011-08-10T21:25:25Z")

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> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> On the other hand, I can’t see any particular reason to keep the show going. Of five seasons, they’ve already done four complete resets of the characters (at the start of each new season after the first), so it’s not like we’re really ever going to see something new. The best we’ll ever get is a gentle decline into shark jumping territory. Why get there?

I’m not upset so much that the show is ending but that they didn’t give the writers a chance to give it an ending. They SAID there would be six more episodes, which would have provided a coda. Then they said “Oh no, sorry, no six episodes.”

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2011, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/syfy-cancels-eureka/592117/30 "2011-08-10T21:47:37Z")

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They were still filming during Comic-Con which wasn’t too long ago. They even tried to call one of the actresses still on set during their panel. So unless they’ve fully finished season 5 since then (doubtful), they have ample opportunity to give _Eureka_ an ending. This is more than they gave _Farscape_, which was cancelled after all filming was done.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2011, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/syfy-cancels-eureka/592117/31 "2011-08-10T21:48:47Z")

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Theyre still in Season 4. Season 5 has yet to air, and will have 14 episodes airing in 2012. That seems to be enough time to bring the series to a resolution.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2011, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/syfy-cancels-eureka/592117/32 "2011-08-10T22:15:13Z")

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They haven’t **fully** finished Season 5, but they only have [del]one[/del] two episodes to go. (The deletion came when I checked Twitter. Jaime Paglia (the show runner) just tweeted that the production company has given them the go-ahead for one additional episode to wrap things up.

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**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2011, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/syfy-cancels-eureka/592117/33 "2011-08-10T22:23:29Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> They haven’t **fully** finished Season 5, but they only have [del]one[/del] two episodes to go. (The deletion came when I checked Twitter. Jaime Paglia (the show runner) just tweeted that the production company has given them the go-ahead for one additional episode to wrap things up.

That’s good. I was worried they’d leave things at a cliffhanger or some such bullshit.

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**Author:** ![BaneSidhe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c5a1d2/32.png) [@BaneSidhe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BaneSidhe)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/syfy-cancels-eureka/592117/34 "2011-08-11T02:42:30Z")

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Between wrestling and the below grade-Z movies they keep cranking out I’m so wanting to delete SyFy off of our cable channels but the hubby would pitch a fit.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/syfy-cancels-eureka/592117/35 "2011-08-11T03:09:21Z")

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> [@D\_Odds](#):
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> This is more than they gave _Farscape_, which was cancelled after all filming was done.

:slight hijack:

Well, 99% anyway. I believe they were on the last day of the season and the producer went to talk to Sci-fi. He expected to tell the cast and crew that, indeed, Sci-fi had ordered a **sixth** season. They had already agreed to a fifth.

Instead, they told him that they were taking an "out’ in the contract and not ordering a fifth and it was over.

In fact, that was the first time that Sci-fi did the whole “Season finale” scam at the mid-season point. They were trying to convince the home audience that the back half of season 4 was season 5.

That was the start of the end for the network. Bonnie Hammer, I believe, played a major role.

:end hijack:

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**Author:** ![Scubaqueen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c0e974/32.png) [@Scubaqueen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scubaqueen)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/syfy-cancels-eureka/592117/36 "2011-08-11T14:43:59Z")

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siffy, you have pissed me off to the max. cancel eureka but leave wrestling? _ **really** _? :mad:

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/syfy-cancels-eureka/592117/37 "2011-08-11T14:55:16Z")

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Of course if the writing is going to be as bad as it was last night (and the episode was written by Paglia of all people!) they might be right.

Come on. Bev/Allison is about to escape. Jo appears carrying a BFG and orders her to stop. Bev/Al calls her bluff. Jo shoots Bev/Al with a pulse gun.

Why didn’t she blast a round through the tail rotor? That way she could capture all three of the Bad Guys. As it was two of them escaped.

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**Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/syfy-cancels-eureka/592117/38 "2011-08-11T15:02:28Z")

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I stopped watching with the whole timeline reset. I’m never pleased when a show throws away some of its character development, and James Callis was too annoying for words. I loved the first few seasons, but I won’t miss it now.

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**Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/syfy-cancels-eureka/592117/39 "2011-08-11T15:13:39Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> Of course if the writing is going to be as bad as it was last night (and the episode was written by Paglia of all people!) they might be right.
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> Come on. Bev/Allison is about to escape. Jo appears carrying a BFG and orders her to stop. Bev/Al calls her bluff. Jo shoots Bev/Al with a pulse gun.
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> Why didn’t she blast a round through the tail rotor? That way she could capture all three of the Bad Guys. As it was two of them escaped.

I spent the whole episode with my finger on the “skip forward” button. it was just bad.

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/syfy-cancels-eureka/592117/40 "2011-08-11T17:09:34Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> Of course if the writing is going to be as bad as it was last night (and the episode was written by Paglia of all people!) they might be right.
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> Come on. Bev/Allison is about to escape. Jo appears carrying a BFG and orders her to stop. Bev/Al calls her bluff. Jo shoots Bev/Al with a pulse gun.
> 
> Why didn’t she blast a round through the tail rotor? That way she could capture all three of the Bad Guys. As it was two of them escaped.

I was thinking the same, but to play Devil’s Advocate, maybe Jo was afraid of injuring Alison’s body with flying shrapnel had she shot anywhere on the helicopter. A throwaway line to that effect would have been nice. Otherwise, Jo just keeps getting further emasculated (or whatever the proper word to use here is).

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