# Syfy cancels Eureka **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 9, 2011, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/syfy-cancels-eureka/592117 "2011-08-09T19:34:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/syfy-cancels-eureka/592117/41 "2011-08-11T17:31:55Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > [Oh, looks like Warehouse 13 is tentatively renewed for another year. Hey, Fargo appeared on it, so it counts! And Claudia appeared on Eureka.](http://www.ambernightdvd.com/wordpress/2011/08/02/warehouse-13-renewed-season-4/) And Dr. Vanessa Calder visited Alphas. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/syfy-cancels-eureka/592117/42 "2011-08-11T18:03:50Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > :slight hijack: > > Well, 99% anyway. I believe they were on the last day of the season and the producer went to talk to Sci-fi. He expected to tell the cast and crew that, indeed, Sci-fi had ordered a **sixth** season. They had already agreed to a fifth. > > Instead, they told him that they were taking an "out’ in the contract and not ordering a fifth and it was over. > > In fact, that was the first time that Sci-fi did the whole “Season finale” scam at the mid-season point. They were trying to convince the home audience that the back half of season 4 was season 5. > > That was the start of the end for the network. Bonnie Hammer, I believe, played a major role. > > :end hijack: I somewhat remember the first 3 paragraphs as being accurate (my memory from yesterday is fuzzy, forget anything before that), but I was following the story all along and don’t remember about SciFi trying to convince anyone about a season 5. Not that I’m a historian and the final authority on what happened, but I think upset fans make up stories to make the ‘enemy’ seem worse. The cancellation (and then how the producer petulantly allowed the finale to finish) were bad enough. No need to embellish. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/syfy-cancels-eureka/592117/43 "2011-08-11T18:15:21Z")
> [@Scubaqueen](#): > > siffy, you have pissed me off to the max. cancel eureka but leave wrestling? _ **really** _? :mad: One provides 12-14 weeks of new programming a year, the other provides about ~50 (with perhaps a best of show twice a year). One gets higher ratings, plus keeps Bonnie Hammer on top of the cable ratings (on USA) weekly. One costs NBC Universal nothing to produce, provides its own advertising, and is responsible for it’s own profitability after taking into account what NBC Universal pays for airing rights. It isn’t a genre fit. I get that. Nor would it fit on A&E, The Weather Channel, or CNBC. NBC and WWE have a long-standing, mutually beneficial relationship, and it is only _2 friggin’ hours out of 168 possible programming hours per week_. I really don’t understand why so many people get so fucking pouty about it. They are not adding more for the same reason they didn’t want to put a second wrestling show on USA - they don’t want to be perceived as a ‘wrestling network’. Obviously it isn’t working. Having 1.2% of your hours taken up by wrestling is an unforgivable taint. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/syfy-cancels-eureka/592117/44 "2011-08-11T18:38:07Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > The cancellation (and then how the producer petulantly allowed the finale to finish) were bad enough. No need to embellish. I didn’t. However, I may have misspoke or been unclear. They did not announce season 5 on TV, but did call one of the mid-season 4-episodes before a hiatus a “season finale”. then, when it came back, they called it a premiere. I don’t have a cite, but I’m pretty sure this is how it happened. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/syfy-cancels-eureka/592117/45 "2011-08-11T19:05:09Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > I didn’t. However, I may have misspoke or been unclear. They did not announce season 5 on TV, but did call one of the mid-season 4-episodes before a hiatus a “season finale”. then, when it came back, they called it a premiere. > > I don’t have a cite, but I’m pretty sure this is how it happened. They always did that and still do, for shows that have split seasons. They probably did it for season 3 also. ‘Finales’ and ‘Premiers’ tend to attract more viewers, so this gives them twice as many opportunities. Sometimes they now will say ‘mid-season finale’, but it’s the same idea. P.S. - I didn’t mean you were embellishing, I meant ticked off fans in general inventing all kinds of stupid conspiracy theories. ---
**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/syfy-cancels-eureka/592117/46 "2011-08-11T19:09:41Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > The cancellation (and then how the producer petulantly allowed the finale to finish) were bad enough. No need to embellish. I never watched that show, so I don’t how it ended and have no idea about the contract circumstances. But is it possible that what you describe as “petulant” was instead a way to try to continue the series by getting it picked up on another channel? ---
**Author:** ![Lust4Life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecc23a/32.png) [@Lust4Life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lust4Life)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/syfy-cancels-eureka/592117/47 "2011-08-11T19:20:42Z")
It was a very good idea and I had high hopes of it at first, but for some reason that I can’t put my finger on it never worked for me. Perhaps it was too soapy or something, maybe the comedy didn’t hit the spot. Maybe it was the story lines, I honestly don’t know. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/syfy-cancels-eureka/592117/48 "2011-08-11T19:34:47Z")
> [@voltaire](#): > > I never watched that show, so I don’t how it ended and have no idea about the contract circumstances. But is it possible that what you describe as “petulant” was instead a way to try to continue the series by getting it picked up on another channel? Not unless another channel was willing to recreate all the sets from scratch (which is what SciFi had to do for the _Farscape_ movie they did, so maybe that was the reason - get fans hopping mad to try to force SciFi’s hand). The sets were brought down immediately after the show finished shooting. Also, no one was picking up SciFi series. Usually the hope is that SciFi or another cable network will pick up a failing network series, but if SciFi can’t get enough viewers to make a space drama work, no one else is. If you are interested in the discussion of the series finale, it is [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=171666&highlight=Farscape). IMNSHO, worst series ending ever. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/syfy-cancels-eureka/592117/49 "2011-08-11T21:25:40Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > Having 1.2% of your hours taken up by wrestling is an unforgivable taint. I’m glad you realize that. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/syfy-cancels-eureka/592117/50 "2011-08-11T21:59:24Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > Having 1.2% of your hours taken up by wrestling is an unforgivable taint. +1 ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/syfy-cancels-eureka/592117/51 "2011-08-12T00:35:36Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > Having 1.2% of your hours taken up by wrestling is an unforgivable taint. :rolleyes: Oh, I wouldn’t call pro-wrestling a taint on the Syfy Channel. But I think you are _very, very_ close! ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/syfy-cancels-eureka/592117/52 "2011-08-12T03:05:45Z")
> [@Tangent](#): > > +1 You do realize that was a facetious sentence? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/syfy-cancels-eureka/592117/53 "2011-08-12T03:49:20Z")
I’m another one who thought the first couple seasons were awesome but lately find myself fairly uninterested in what happens. It’s nice to know they’ll get a proper ending, although I’m not sure I care that much. Now, give me a great space show with the crew trapped off in space caught in the middle of some great alien conflict/mystery and then cancel it without a fair ending - that sucks. ---
**Author:** ![AWB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bb73d2/32.png) [@AWB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AWB)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/syfy-cancels-eureka/592117/54 "2011-08-25T15:04:58Z")
> [@KneadToKnow](#): > > My girlfriend and I have only just started watching it, so my history of getting interested in shows right before they are cancelled remains strong. I just started watching it myself, mainly from the ad for “Up In The Air”, when Sheriff Carter gets excited because a regular crime is reported (a bank robbery). Then he finds out what that means: the entire bank _building_ has been stolen. I then went out to the library to check out the DVDs of the series. Just need to find season 2, 3.0, and 4.0 to catch up. ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/syfy-cancels-eureka/592117/55 "2011-08-25T16:18:07Z")
> [@AWB](#): > > I then went out to the library to check out the DVDs of the series. Just need to find season 2, 3.0, and 4.0 to catch up. They are all on Netflix streaming. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/syfy-cancels-eureka/592117/56 "2011-08-25T23:30:33Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > One provides 12-14 weeks of new programming a year, the other provides about ~50 (with perhaps a best of show twice a year). One gets higher ratings, plus keeps Bonnie Hammer on top of the cable ratings (on USA) weekly. One costs NBC Universal nothing to produce, provides its own advertising, and is responsible for it’s own profitability after taking into account what NBC Universal pays for airing rights. > > It isn’t a genre fit. I get that. Nor would it fit on A&E, The Weather Channel, or CNBC. NBC and WWE have a long-standing, mutually beneficial relationship, and it is only _2 friggin’ hours out of 168 possible programming hours per week_. I really don’t understand why so many people get so fucking pouty about it. They are not adding more for the same reason they didn’t want to put a second wrestling show on USA - they don’t want to be perceived as a ‘wrestling network’. Obviously it isn’t working. Having 1.2% of your hours taken up by wrestling is an unforgivable taint. :rolleyes: I’ve always opposed the notion of adding a like button here, but if we had one I would’ve clicked it for your post. Anyway, it’s too bad Eureka’s been canceled, but it’s getting kinda long in the tooth now anyway, and I haven’t really liked the whole alt timeline thing (really wish they would’ve reset buttoned that away at the end of the half season when Baltar left the show). Losing Stark, and even Max Headroom, didn’t help much either. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/syfy-cancels-eureka/592117.md?page=2)