# SyFy Dark Matter cancelled **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 1, 2017, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/syfy-dark-matter-cancelled/795281 "2017-09-01T23:36:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Paintcharge](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/paintcharge/32/7946_2.png) [@Paintcharge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paintcharge)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2017, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/syfy-dark-matter-cancelled/795281/21 "2017-09-02T21:29:05Z")
> [@Declan](#): > > Don’t know about Wynnona Earp, but Killjoys was picked up for two more seasons Start from the beginning, otherwise it won’t make sense. It’s based on a comic that I haven’t read. Wyat Earp’s offspring need to re-kill all of the people Wyat shot back in the day. Clever dialog, sexy babes, and Doc Holiday as an immortal scamp. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2017, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/syfy-dark-matter-cancelled/795281/22 "2017-09-02T22:20:06Z")
Damn. I watched this one from the beginning, and always looked forward to its next season. > [@What\_Exit](#): > > I feel like this was the spiritual child of Firefly. ^ This. The overall plot was quite different (with DM showing more of a focus on identity and the question ‘can a bad person change?’), but the vibe was similar to that of _Firefly_–a mix of humor and adventure and sci-fi ideas, with well-drawn characters. > [@TimeWinder](#): > > … Haven had five seasons, Farscape four (and wasn’t SyFy produced, anyway), Warehouse 13 had five seasons. All of those are decent runs for a TV series. Dark Matter and Defiance had three, also not bad. … But the total number of episodes isn’t enough for syndication. So _Dark Matter_ (and _Defiance_) will be lost to all but the memories of we Fifty. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2017, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/syfy-dark-matter-cancelled/795281/23 "2017-09-02T22:22:27Z")
> [@TimeWinder](#): > > I think your expectations may be too high. Haven had five seasons, Farscape four (and wasn’t SyFy produced, anyway), Warehouse 13 had five seasons. All of those are decent runs for a TV series. Dark Matter and Defiance had three, also not bad. Lots of shows on other channels do a lot worse. > [@Sherrerd](#): > > But the total number of episodes isn’t enough for syndication. So _Dark Matter_ (and _Defiance_) will be lost to all but the memories of we Fifty. 3 seasons but only 39 episodes. Too short a run. # Seasons wasn’t bad in the days of 22+ episodes per season, but now it is too short for a good show. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2017, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/syfy-dark-matter-cancelled/795281/24 "2017-09-02T23:14:41Z")
Defiance had a solid ending at least, not a cliffhanger. I don’t understand why Killjoys got two more seasons in order to finish their story but this got outright canceled. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2017, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/syfy-dark-matter-cancelled/795281/25 "2017-09-03T00:57:00Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > But the total number of episodes isn’t enough for syndication. So _Dark Matter_ (and _Defiance_) will be lost to all but the memories of we Fifty. With Netflix, Hulu, Amazon Prime, Crackle _et al_ looking for content, less than 100 episodes isn’t the death knell it once was. ---
**Author:** ![Declan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecae2f/32.png) [@Declan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Declan)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2017, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/syfy-dark-matter-cancelled/795281/26 "2017-09-03T15:14:14Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > Defiance had a solid ending at least, not a cliffhanger. I don’t understand why Killjoys got two more seasons in order to finish their story but this got outright canceled. The killjoys lead is about to go hollywood, locking her in for two more years makes financial sense, as her salary requirements and availability will change, if she makes the break out. ---
**Author:** ![Declan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecae2f/32.png) [@Declan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Declan)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2017, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/syfy-dark-matter-cancelled/795281/27 "2017-09-03T15:17:46Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > I am very seriously thinking of not watching another SyFy show, I’ve been burned so much. > Dark Matter > Haven > Farscape > Alphas > Defiance (although it didn’t end in a cliffhanger-- it didn’t have to end) > Hunters > Warehouse 13 (Why? Didn’t this show get ratings?) > > Still, if I give up completely I’d miss out on the shows that I enjoyed like Eureka and the StarGate shows. It does make me resent all the reality shows. Reality; isn’t that the opposite of Science Fiction? Speaking of warehouse 13, it only had 4.5 seasons and towards the end of its run, it was getting tired. It was supposed to be canceled after season 4, but the network people either decided that the story arc needed to be finished in such a way to move to warehouse 14 in a future reboot, or simply made the existing fans happy and exited the show. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2017, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/syfy-dark-matter-cancelled/795281/28 "2017-09-03T20:11:16Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > With Netflix, Hulu, Amazon Prime, Crackle _et al_ looking for content, less than 100 episodes isn’t the death knell it once was. True. Don’t know if we’ll see DM available, though; no major stars or other hook. I _hope_ it will be available, of course. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2017, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/syfy-dark-matter-cancelled/795281/29 "2017-09-03T20:36:37Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > True. Don’t know if we’ll see DM available, though; no major stars or other hook. I _hope_ it will be available, of course. It is already on Netflix actually. I’m hoping they may decide to give the show more episodes. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2017, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/syfy-dark-matter-cancelled/795281/30 "2017-09-03T21:43:29Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > It is already on Netflix actually. I’m hoping they may decide to give the show more episodes. That would be great! It can’t be all that expensive a show to make, surely–it doesn’t have a lot of special effects, despite it being science fiction. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Vorlon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d07c76/32.png) [@The\_Vorlon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Vorlon)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2017, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/syfy-dark-matter-cancelled/795281/31 "2017-09-04T00:50:41Z")
SyFy: the new Fox ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2017, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/syfy-dark-matter-cancelled/795281/32 "2017-09-04T00:54:09Z")
And the sets are built and the actors are mostly nobodies from Canada. Can’t cost more than ten–fifteen bucks to make one. 😉 I sometimes model myself as the android when I’m telemarketing. “Are you a robot?” “No, ma’am, though you might assume that my programming would have me tell you I’m not.” Then, with a little small talk about the Harley her husband has in the garage, I make the sale. A robot could do it, but it would need to judge when it can try the Harley Gambit. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2017, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/syfy-dark-matter-cancelled/795281/33 "2017-09-04T01:10:00Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > And the sets are built and the actors are mostly nobodies from Canada. Can’t cost more than ten–fifteen bucks to make one. 😉 Last episode did have an honest to goodness space battle though. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2017, 9:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/syfy-dark-matter-cancelled/795281/34 "2017-09-04T09:02:49Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > Defiance had a solid ending at least, not a cliffhanger. I don’t understand why Killjoys got two more seasons in order to finish their story but this got outright canceled. If it were up to me, I’d have split the difference and given each one more season to wrap up. Or, if I had to choose, I’d have gone for _DM_ over _Killjoys_ (I like both shows, but _Killjoys_ killed off one character I really liked and I can hold a grudge!) ---
**Author:** ![Drum\_God](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drum_god/32/44_2.png) [@Drum\_God](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drum_God)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2017, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/syfy-dark-matter-cancelled/795281/35 "2017-09-05T03:09:28Z")
I first found this show on Netflix or Amazon and hope that one of those pick it up in the future. It isn’t the best science fiction ever, but it consistently entertaining. Ryo, however, has got to be the dumbest emperor in the history of totalitarianism. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2017, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/syfy-dark-matter-cancelled/795281/36 "2017-09-05T17:53:12Z")
Apparently the main reason Killjoys got picked up and DM didn’t is that Killjoys is a Syfy original and DM was an acquisition. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/syfy-dark-matter-cancelled/795281.md?page=1)