# Sylvia Browne crosses over

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sylvia-browne-crosses-over/674403>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 21, 2013, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sylvia-browne-crosses-over/674403 "2013-11-21T02:37:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sylvia-browne-crosses-over/674403/1 "2013-11-21T02:37:01Z")

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Sylvia Browne has finally expired at the age of 77. This is particularly bad news for Montel Williams, who must go back to work for Krystal’s now.

> **[Renowned psychic, bestselling author Sylvia Browne dies at 77 | CNN](https://www.cnn.com/2013/11/20/showbiz/sylvia-browne-dies/)**
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> Renowned psychic and bestselling author Sylvia Browne died Wednesday in a northern California hospital, her website said.

Feel free to rip the old charlatan a posthumous new one.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sylvia-browne-crosses-over/674403/2 "2013-11-21T02:40:48Z")

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I’ll bet she didn’t see that coming.

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**Author:** ![randwill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@randwill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randwill)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sylvia-browne-crosses-over/674403/3 "2013-11-21T03:19:00Z")

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Good riddance.

And Montel Williams is still on TV?

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sylvia-browne-crosses-over/674403/4 "2013-11-21T03:23:48Z")

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Evil bitch.

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**Author:** ![Cumberdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8c91f0/32.png) [@Cumberdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cumberdale)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sylvia-browne-crosses-over/674403/5 "2013-11-21T03:51:08Z")

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To paraphrase Moms Mabley, “I was brought up to only speak good of the dead. She’s dead. Good!”

She was truly a vile, disgusting piece of garbage.

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**Author:** ![Joe\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/fbc32d/32.png) [@Joe\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joe_King)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sylvia-browne-crosses-over/674403/6 "2013-11-21T03:52:56Z")

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Crap. Started another thread. I bow to yours.

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**Author:** ![Happyasaclam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/7c8e57/32.png) [@Happyasaclam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happyasaclam)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sylvia-browne-crosses-over/674403/7 "2013-11-21T03:57:41Z")

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Shocking. I thought she was immortal.  
Just curious, why the hate towards this gravel throated woman?

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sylvia-browne-crosses-over/674403/8 "2013-11-21T03:59:11Z")

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> [@randwill](#):
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> And Montel Williams is still on TV?

No, he isn’t. Unless there is a new show he’s on that I missed.

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**Author:** ![Cumberdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8c91f0/32.png) [@Cumberdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cumberdale)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sylvia-browne-crosses-over/674403/9 "2013-11-21T04:00:32Z")

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> [@Happyasaclam](#):
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> Shocking. I thought she was immortal.  
> Just curious, why the hate towards this gravel throated woman?

Because she was a con artist, and a fraud who preyed on people at their weakest. She should have died rotting in prison rather than as a free and “respectable” person. I truly wish there was a Hell for the likes of her.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sylvia-browne-crosses-over/674403/10 "2013-11-21T04:01:40Z")

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> [@Happyasaclam](#):
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> Shocking. I thought she was immortal.  
> Just curious, why the hate towards this gravel throated woman?

Well, the way she based her entire career on deliberate fraud is reason enough on its own, but her tendency to run her scam on the families of missing persons makes her especially repugnant.

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**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sylvia-browne-crosses-over/674403/11 "2013-11-21T04:07:24Z")

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Adam Carolla has a bit/theory he refers to as “stupid or liar?” which he liberally applies to blowhards of all stripes.

Ms. Browne easily qualified as both.

Fucking con artist cunt. I can’t even muster any sliver of respect for her regarding the con “artistry”; she was just another in a long, long line of people taking advantage of desperate, bereft people and suckers. She just happened to do it in the middling age of mass media. It doesn’t take any degree of skill or even showmanship to scam stupid people, it merely requires a total lack of integrity and dignity.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sylvia-browne-crosses-over/674403/12 "2013-11-21T04:55:01Z")

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> [@runner pat](#):
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> I’ll bet she didn’t see that coming.

In this case we have documented proof. [She predicted her own death at age 88](http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0305/16/lkl.00.html):  
KING: OK. Do you know when you’re going to die?  
BROWNE: Yes. When I’m 88.

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**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sylvia-browne-crosses-over/674403/13 "2013-11-21T05:19:52Z")

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> [@Dr.Strangelove](#):
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> KING: OK. Do you know when you’re going to die?  
> BROWNE: Yes. When I’m 88.

[Close enough](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPwrodxghrw).

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sylvia-browne-crosses-over/674403/14 "2013-11-21T05:54:27Z")

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> [@randwill](#):
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> And Montel Williams is still on TV?

No, except for occasional infomercials and commercials, some of which were for Sylvia Browne. He also emceed at some of her live shows and cruises. (She actually had an annual Sylvia Fest cruise of the Mediterranean with her wealthier believers.)

Sylvia is one of the people who makes me sad that I have scruples. I could be so freaking rich if it were not for the fact that I just cannot bring myself to feed upon the desperate. I have so much more panache and imagination that she did or John Edward does.

Apparently her granddaughter is telekinetic. Her son is in the same racket she was.

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**Author:** ![Accidental\_Martyr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ce7236/32.png) [@Accidental\_Martyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Accidental_Martyr)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sylvia-browne-crosses-over/674403/15 "2013-11-21T06:12:00Z")

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> [@Cumberdale](#):
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> Because she was a con artist, and a fraud who preyed on people at their weakest. She should have died rotting in prison rather than as a free and “respectable” person. I truly wish there was a Hell for the likes of her.

Well said.

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**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sylvia-browne-crosses-over/674403/16 "2013-11-21T06:59:26Z")

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From the CNN link:

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> It was a “very scary thing” for her when she realized as a youngster she could tell if someone was going to die, she told King in 2000.

Wrong again.

The CNN story, like much reporting, has only this to say about her abysmal failures:

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> While beloved by many in the psychic community, Browne also had detractors. They included those critical of her remarks, on a 2004 episode of “The Montel Williams Show,” that then-missing Amanda Berry was dead – telling Berry’s mother she would next see her daughter “in heaven, on the other side.”

They could have said _she was incredibly wrong, and not just on one occasion,_ instead of saying she had a few critics. But apparently that would be bad journalism. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sylvia-browne-crosses-over/674403/17 "2013-11-21T07:17:17Z")

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Good riddance to bad rubbish.

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**Author:** ![Sudden\_Kestrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@Sudden\_Kestrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sudden_Kestrel)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sylvia-browne-crosses-over/674403/18 "2013-11-21T07:22:51Z")

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Modern journalism is no fit place for scientific objectivity! We should just be grateful they didn’t call her a hero and start a “charitable” foundation in her name.

May she suffer a thousand exquisite agonies for each lie she told in the name of profit, the lying sack of shit.

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**Author:** ![WotNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e19b73/32.png) [@WotNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WotNot)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 10:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sylvia-browne-crosses-over/674403/19 "2013-11-21T10:32:21Z")

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> [@Musicat](#):
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> The CNN story, like much reporting, has only this to say about her abysmal failures:They could have said _she was incredibly wrong, and not just on one occasion,_ instead of saying she had a few critics. But apparently that would be bad journalism. :rolleyes:

It’s terrible, I know, but it occurs to me that if she’d limited her “vision” to

> [@](#):
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> – telling Berry’s mother she would next see her daughter “in heaven, on the other side.”

she’d actually have been right.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 11:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sylvia-browne-crosses-over/674403/20 "2013-11-21T11:03:58Z")

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Apparently she’s not really dead; she’s just locked up in Cleveland.

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