# Sylvia Browne crosses over

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sylvia-browne-crosses-over/674403>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 21, 2013, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sylvia-browne-crosses-over/674403 "2013-11-21T02:37:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sylvia-browne-crosses-over/674403/41 "2013-11-21T17:38:06Z")

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James Randi should offer her $1,000,000 to contact him spiritually.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sylvia-browne-crosses-over/674403/42 "2013-11-21T17:41:34Z")

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“Your kid’s dead!”

You will \*not \*be missed, Sylvia.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sylvia-browne-crosses-over/674403/43 "2013-11-21T18:11:22Z")

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> [@Mikemike2](#):
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> Ding Dong the witch is dead. 🙂 Wait… I feel a void… now who am I gonna hate?

I hadn’t heard anything to the effect that John Edward had stopped being the biggest douche in the universe.

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**Author:** ![Find\_Friends](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c37758/32.png) [@Find\_Friends](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Find_Friends)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sylvia-browne-crosses-over/674403/44 "2013-11-21T18:31:52Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> Sylvia Browne has finally expired at the age of 77. This is particularly bad news for Montel Williams, who must go back to work for Krystal’s now.
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> [http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/20/showbiz/sylvia-browne-dies/](http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/20/showbiz/sylvia-browne-dies/)
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> Feel free to rip the old charlatan a posthumous new one.

Gosh, you pre-empted me by less than 15 minutes. I started a new thread in the box but decided to use Search before posting it.

> [@runner pat](#):
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> I’ll bet she didn’t see that coming.

_ **ARRRRGH!** _ My opening salvo was to be:  
\<\< Boy, _I_ didn’t see that one coming! 😉 \>\>

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**Author:** ![drm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a88e57/32.png) [@drm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drm)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sylvia-browne-crosses-over/674403/45 "2013-11-21T18:42:28Z")

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In situations like these, my greatest wish is for one small moment of honesty. Therefore for me, it’s too bad she’s dead.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sylvia-browne-crosses-over/674403/46 "2013-11-21T18:45:41Z")

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She’s honestly dead…

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**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sylvia-browne-crosses-over/674403/47 "2013-11-21T19:00:05Z")

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I sincerely hope she’s more than _mostly_ dead.

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**Author:** ![Accidental\_Martyr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ce7236/32.png) [@Accidental\_Martyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Accidental_Martyr)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sylvia-browne-crosses-over/674403/48 "2013-11-21T19:07:16Z")

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> [@August\_West](#):
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> I wish I believed in Hell, because I’d like to picture her there.
> 
> I got in trouble at my local library because I kept moving her books to the Fiction section, it occurs to me that I should have just thrown them away.

I wanted to do the same thing at my local library, or stick notes in them or something. I swear they must have all of her books.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sylvia-browne-crosses-over/674403/49 "2013-11-21T19:31:27Z")

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> [@Musicat](#):
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> I sincerely hope she’s more than _mostly_ dead.

She’s not only merely dead, she’s really most sincerely dead.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sylvia-browne-crosses-over/674403/50 "2013-11-21T19:35:30Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> She’s not only merely dead, she’s really most sincerely dead.

That would be the only sincere thing she ever did.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sylvia-browne-crosses-over/674403/51 "2013-11-21T19:36:28Z")

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> [@Mikemike2](#):
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> Ding Dong the witch is dead. 🙂 Wait… I feel a void… now who am I gonna hate?

> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> I hadn’t heard anything to the effect that John Edward had stopped being the biggest douche in the universe.

John’s an excellent choice for douchebag “psychics”, but please consider widening your hatred horizons. The two who immediately come to mind are Nancy Grace and Franklin Graham, but if you want to spread some hate toward politicians, the sky’s the limit!

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sylvia-browne-crosses-over/674403/52 "2013-11-21T19:45:27Z")

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Oh, come on, John Edward is clearly still the winner for douchebag of the universe. Does he still…do that thing he pretends to do? I haven’t seen him in year. Maybe even a decade.

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**Author:** ![Balance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sylvia-browne-crosses-over/674403/53 "2013-11-21T20:58:56Z")

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I’m torn between elaborating on “scum” or “scam”…wait, how many words do we get for this oh-you-bitch-uary?

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sylvia-browne-crosses-over/674403/54 "2013-11-21T21:15:42Z")

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I am doing my Happy Dance.

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**Author:** ![Rushgeekgirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rushgeekgirl/32/3715_2.png) [@Rushgeekgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rushgeekgirl)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sylvia-browne-crosses-over/674403/55 "2013-11-21T22:21:10Z")

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> [@Musicat](#):
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> From the CNN link:Wrong again.
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> The CNN story, like much reporting, has only this to say about her abysmal failures:They could have said _she was incredibly wrong, and not just on one occasion,_ instead of saying she had a few critics. But apparently that would be bad journalism. :rolleyes:

Didn’t Amanda Berry’s mom die before she was found? I suppose it could still be true if there’s a “heaven or the other side”.

Or I could pretend I’m Sylvia Brown instead of reading ahead.

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**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sylvia-browne-crosses-over/674403/56 "2013-11-21T22:49:19Z")

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> [@Rushgeekgirl](#):
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> Didn’t Amanda Berry’s mom die before she was found? I suppose it could still be true if there’s a “heaven or the other side”.

That’s what’s so wonderful about the most skillful predictions. You can twist them so you can’t lose.

(said Parker Lewis)

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sylvia-browne-crosses-over/674403/57 "2013-11-21T23:20:13Z")

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[James Randi comments.](http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/swift-blog/2273-message-from-james-randi-on-sylvia-brownes-death.html)

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> "[We at JREF] do not celebrate her death, even as we criticize the way she lived. But I’ll be quite frank with you, I cannot mourn at Browne’s passing — she really hurt far too many people, and always so unapologetically.

Her greatest hits include:

-Telling Amanda Berry’s mother Amanda was dead (as mentioned above)

-Telling Shawn Hornbeck’s parents that he was dead and buried between two boulders (he was later found alive living with his abductor)

-Stating upon the news release that the miners trapped in a W. VA coal mine were alive that she knew this all along, and then when it was announced- on the same episode of Montel- that the first announcement was wrong and they were in fact dead, she mentioned that’s what she had meant all along.

-Telling one woman who wanted to know how her 12 year old daughter died that she was shot (Sylvia apparently thought the child was abducted and missing; the daughter collapsed in her bedroom and died and the cause of death was not certain)

-Telling a woman who wanted to know about her boyfriend’s death that “he died in water” (he was a fireman who died on 9-11).

And people kept on giving her $850 for 20 minute readings. For perspective, the number of lawyers who charge more than she did for a reading could fit into one court room.

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sylvia-browne-crosses-over/674403/58 "2013-11-21T23:42:25Z")

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My father’s least favorite character in the Matrix was the Oracle. He said the character reminded him of all the self-important, overly judgmental, nicotine-addicted old hags that have aggravated him his whole life. I liked the Oracle, so I don’t share this opinion.

But I do see what he’s talking about in Sylvia Browne. I can imagine her as someone’s great aunt, parked at the end of the Thanksgiving table and driving everyone absolutely nuts with her constant talking, rudeness, bullshitting, and smoking. And [visual hideousness](http://www.stopsylvia.com/articles/montel_911fireman.shtml).

She was the living embodiment of [Hogatha](http://smurfs.wikia.com/wiki/Hogatha).

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sylvia-browne-crosses-over/674403/59 "2013-11-21T23:46:16Z")

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When she gets to her final reward: You know that Slapping scene in Airplane? Yeah, like that but with a much MUCH longer line. Some souls are gonna be \*pissed. \*

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**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2013, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sylvia-browne-crosses-over/674403/60 "2013-11-22T14:46:11Z")

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OK, I’m as snarky as the next person about her & when I made a comment about her death on FB, a friend made this comment, and so I will put it here just for a bit of balance…

“I met Sylvia once at a private dinner party at a friend’s apartment in Hollywood. I was going through a difficult time in my life and wasn’t in a great frame of mind. Even though I never agreed with or believed in her methods, I will say that she tried to encourage me that day and was a kind decent person. I think she was just sincerely misled in her own mind. May she rest in peace.”

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