# Symbol font now available. **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [October 2, 2001, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/symbol-font-now-available/85016 "2001-10-02T18:38:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![erislover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/71e660/32.png) [@erislover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erislover)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2001, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/symbol-font-now-available/85016/61 "2001-10-07T06:03:56Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by RTFirefly \* > ln³([sym]Ö[/sym]e) I don’t think I’ve ever seen that notation for logarithms raised to a power (else I can’t see what you’re attempting to distinguish). Makes sense in a way analogous to the trig functions, tho. Actually, I don’t think I’ve ever done anything at all with logarithms raised to a power… huh. ---
**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2001, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/symbol-font-now-available/85016/62 "2001-10-07T06:23:10Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by erislover \* > \*\* > > > [@](#): > > > > \*Originally posted by RTFirefly \* > > ln³([sym]Ö[/sym]e) > > I don’t think I’ve ever seen that notation for logarithms raised to a power (else I can’t see what you’re attempting to distinguish). Makes sense in a way analogous to the trig functions, tho. > > Actually, I don’t think I’ve ever done anything at all with logarithms raised to a power… huh. \*\* That’s pretty standard notation, to say that f[sup]2/sup = (f(x))[sup]2[/sup]. There’s usually no danger of mistaking that for composition, because the context usually dictates which is appropriate. ---
**Author:** ![greenlady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6f9a4e/32.png) [@greenlady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/greenlady)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2001, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/symbol-font-now-available/85016/63 "2001-10-07T12:15:45Z")
Oh, you computer people are making my head explode. Calculus limerick, oh my god… Anyway, I have a way simple question if someone could take the time, please. How do you make the tiny print show up? It doesn’t seem to be a vB code (like bold, italic, etc.). Much thanks! ---
**Author:** ![greenlady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6f9a4e/32.png) [@greenlady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/greenlady)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2001, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/symbol-font-now-available/85016/64 "2001-10-07T12:23:59Z")
Never mind, I found the answer. It’s a good thing I don’t do this for a living… ---
**Author:** ![erislover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/71e660/32.png) [@erislover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erislover)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2001, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/symbol-font-now-available/85016/65 "2001-10-07T17:54:18Z")
Yeah, it makes perfect sense, that isn’t the problem, and I have seen it implemented in all sorts of other areas. Of course, had the problem been written out the little “3” would be in the right place anyway, just the font spacing which throws it off. Are there any sort of common functions which raise logarithms to powers, though? I honestly haven’t seen any, but I’m not a huge math person (I love it, but not ever part of my career is what I mean). ---
**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2001, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/symbol-font-now-available/85016/66 "2001-10-07T18:33:08Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by erislover \* > \*\*Yeah, it makes perfect sense, that isn’t the problem, and I have seen it implemented in all sorts of other areas. Of course, had the problem been written out the little “3” would be in the right place anyway, just the font spacing which throws it off. > > Are there any sort of common functions which raise logarithms to powers, though? I honestly haven’t seen any, but I’m not a huge math person (I love it, but not ever part of my career is what I mean). \*\* It’s not incredibly common. I can’t think of a natural situation off the top of my head, but I’ve seen it come up in some homework problems. ---
**Author:** ![furryman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/furryman/32/99_2.png) [@furryman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furryman)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2001, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/symbol-font-now-available/85016/67 "2001-10-07T23:50:24Z")
How about accent marks? The accent ague, the accent greive, the umlaut and those little dots that appear over the e in Saint-Saens. [sub]This post is probably horribly mispelled. Thank you for your paitence.[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2001, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/symbol-font-now-available/85016/68 "2001-10-07T23:57:41Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by furryman \* > \*\*How about accent marks? The accent ague, the accent greive, the umlaut and those little dots that appear over the e in Saint-Saens. > [sub]This post is probably horribly mispelled. Thank you for your paitence.[/sub] \*\* Run charmap.exe. It’s all available through there. ---
**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2001, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/symbol-font-now-available/85016/69 "2001-10-09T13:04:09Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by furryman \* > How about accent marks? The accent ague, the accent greive, the umlaut and those little dots that appear over the e in Saint-Saens. I’ve been doing those in GQ since before the symbol font became available: ë is the dotty one, and it’s alt 0235 é is e accent aigue, alt 0233 è is e accent grave, alt 0232 Some other useful oves: ô 0244 ö 0246 þ 0254 ü 0252 It cycles through, too, so é is also alt 0745. And alt 01257. You’ll want to have numlock on when you do this, and it’s for PCs (haven’t tested it on a Mac, so I dunno if it works there as well). Use the number pad on your keyboard. ---
**Author:** ![Sea\_Sorbust](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Sea\_Sorbust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sea_Sorbust)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2001, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/symbol-font-now-available/85016/70 "2001-10-09T17:25:42Z")
Phooie on the critics, **erislover.** That was one cool limerick. 😃 Don’t think that the unwashed millions know how hard it is to make a [valid] calculus limerick or poem. (It’s more than I can do, at least.) ---
**Author:** ![erislover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/71e660/32.png) [@erislover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erislover)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2001, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/symbol-font-now-available/85016/71 "2001-10-10T00:12:56Z")
[sym]µ\_µ[/sym] ---
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2001, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/symbol-font-now-available/85016/72 "2001-10-11T17:47:42Z")
It doesn’t show up entirely the same way for us, kids. For instance, the left arrow and the heart are transposed, and the last third or more of the list don’t show up at all, just a null symbol. Just letting you know. stoid ---
**Author:** ![Sea\_Sorbust](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Sea\_Sorbust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sea_Sorbust)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2001, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/symbol-font-now-available/85016/73 "2001-10-12T15:16:47Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by **ultrafilter** \* > > > [@](#): > > > > \*Originally posted by \*\*erislover \*\*\* > > > > > [@](#): > > > > > > \*Originally posted by **RTFirefly** \* > > > ln³([sym]Ö[/sym]e) > > > > I don’t think I’ve ever seen that notation for logarithms raised to a power (else I can’t see what you’re attempting to distinguish). Makes sense in a way analogous to the trig functions, tho. > > > > Actually, I don’t think I’ve ever done anything at all with logarithms raised to a power… huh. > > That’s pretty standard notation, to say that f[sup]2/sup = (f(x))[sup]2[/sup]. There’s usually no danger of mistaking that for composition, because the context usually dictates which is appropriate. How about ```auto f°f(x) which is sometimes [sym]¹[/sym] f[sup]2[/sup](x) = (f(x))[sup]2[/sup] ``` **ultrafilter**? (I couldn’t find a composition symbol so used degrees.) 🙂 (Maybe a lozenge, f[sym]à[/sym]f(x), would be better, tho?) ---
**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2001, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/symbol-font-now-available/85016/74 "2001-10-12T18:57:30Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Sea Sorbust \* > \*\*How about > > ```auto > > f°f(x) which is sometimes [sym]¹[/sym] f[sup]2[/sup](x) = (f(x))[sup]2[/sup] > > ``` > > **ultrafilter**? (I couldn’t find a composition symbol so used degrees.) 🙂 > > (Maybe a lozenge, f[sym]à[/sym]f(x), would be better, tho?) \*\* Yeah, that works, and it’s pretty standard. I think there’s a good composition symbol in the extended character set of the normal font. ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2001, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/symbol-font-now-available/85016/75 "2001-11-07T04:54:42Z")
[sym]Pantw kinhsai petron De troqenta eidwmen iaqenta eggkefalon[/sym] (hope I’ve got that right!) ---
**Author:** ![Mudshark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f04885/32.png) [@Mudshark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mudshark)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2001, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/symbol-font-now-available/85016/76 "2001-11-09T03:06:16Z")
[sym]So this is the new font? I guess this as good a time as any to use it[/sym] ---
**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2001, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/symbol-font-now-available/85016/77 "2001-11-09T19:02:56Z")
[sym] There once was a man from nantucket [/sym] I. M. [sym]p[/sym] ---
**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2001, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/symbol-font-now-available/85016/78 "2001-11-09T19:04:04Z")
[QUOTE] \*Originally posted by Shirley Ujest \* \*\*[sym] There once was a man from nantucket [/sym] Translation: There once was a man from nantucket. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2001, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/symbol-font-now-available/85016/79 "2001-11-09T20:55:56Z")
OK, **matt\_mcl** , now you’ve got to tell us what you just said. There’s something about a rock in there, but that’s about all I could make out. A note, by the way, to everyone else using the symbol font: What matt just typed really was Greek. What most of you’uns are doing is just English in a funny font. It doesn’t really fool anyone. ---
**Author:** ![rowrrbazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rowrrbazzle/32/414_2.png) [@rowrrbazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rowrrbazzle)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2001, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/symbol-font-now-available/85016/80 "2001-11-09T21:26:28Z")
I’ll take a guess at matt\_mcl’s Greek. 1. I recognize the first word, panto, “everything” or maybe “everybody”? Last word petron, “stone”. “Everybody must get stoned”? 2. Last word, enkephalon, “brain”. First word, de, meaning “but” or “if” maybe. “If I only had a brain?” I don’t know what the Greek means literally, though. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/symbol-font-now-available/85016.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/symbol-font-now-available/85016.md?page=5)