# Symbolism in Children of Men \*spoilers\*

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**Created:** [January 29, 2007, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/symbolism-in-children-of-men-spoilers/389973 "2007-01-29T15:31:37Z")\
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**Author:** ![St\_Ides](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@St\_Ides](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/St_Ides)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2007, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/symbolism-in-children-of-men-spoilers/389973/21 "2007-01-31T20:48:05Z")

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I’ve stated this in some other Children of Men threads:

Every single person who even touches a gun, turns out to be evil (and as such, dies.)

I don’t know if that’s symbolism or what, but it really cheeses me off.

You’re in a fricking warzone (I speak of course, of the time in the ghetto, just after the baby is born). If there’s any point in your life when you the odds of you needing a gun to survive are high, this is one of those times. Just pick one up and put it in your pocket. You may need it.

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**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2007, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/symbolism-in-children-of-men-spoilers/389973/22 "2007-01-31T21:45:46Z")

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[QUOTE=you with the face]  
2. **Kee’s race**. Humanity came out of Africa. That Kee is a black woman, carrying the first and only member of the world’s youngest generation, is no coincidence, IMO.  
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Interesting. This puts me in mind of two other apocalyptic films where the last hope for humanity is a black woman: [The Omega Man](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0067525/) and [28 Days Later](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0289043/).

(Well OK, there’s also a white girl in the last one.)

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**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2007, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/symbolism-in-children-of-men-spoilers/389973/23 "2007-02-01T21:02:10Z")

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[QUOTE=Sailboat]  
Eh, I think that you’re saying the movie claims “People never really thought how special children were”? The movie may so claim. But in real life, you can’t go a day without hearing someone loudly proclaim how special children are and how much we should all do for them.

I’m not saying children _aren’t_ special, but it’s flat untruth to say people don’t go on and on about their specialness and value. Even if we are being hypocritical about it. From Michelin commercials with babies riding on your tires, to politicians kissing babies during elections, to any thread on people loving their pets (which is inevitably hijacked by parents exclaiming “no one else knows the special love I feel for my biological offspring”), Western society is flooded with it.

Sailboat  
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People feel that \*their own \* children are special. Not children in general. In fact, other peoples kids are usually a pain. And those ads with babies? Schmaltzy and insincere. But in this flick, you get to see how people reacted to a birth that actually was miraculous instead of being a mere expression.

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