# Symphonic Rock

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/symphonic-rock/425686>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 8, 2007, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/symphonic-rock/425686 "2007-11-08T19:03:52Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 12\
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**Author:** ![Walloon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/fbc32d/32.png) [@Walloon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walloon)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2007, 9:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/symphonic-rock/425686/21 "2007-11-09T09:14:16Z")

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“Everything Under The Sun”, the climatic three-part song on the Extreme album [III Sides to Every Story](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/III_Sides_to_Every_Story), one of the most underrated rock albums of the '90s.

I love good prog rock.

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**Author:** ![mr.jp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/48db29/32.png) [@mr.jp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mr.jp)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2007, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/symphonic-rock/425686/22 "2007-11-09T13:13:43Z")

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Therion - Ginnungagap is a kick-ass choire-metal song

In general, I love choires in rock songs, and think they are used too seldom. These songs have excellent sections with choires:

William Shatner - Common People

Happy Mondays - Step On

Queen - Somebody to Love  
With string section from the philharmonic orchestra:

Oasis - Whatever

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2007, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/symphonic-rock/425686/23 "2007-11-09T13:32:11Z")

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Guns N Roses - November Rain  
Aerosmith - Dream on

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**Author:** ![Wakinyan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wakinyan/32/352_2.png) [@Wakinyan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wakinyan)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2007, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/symphonic-rock/425686/24 "2007-11-09T14:50:01Z")

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Plant & Page’s [No Quarter](http://www.amazon.com/No-Quarter-Jimmy-Robert-Unledded/dp/B000002J34/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2/002-1411118-1759215?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1194619482&sr=1-2) . Especially _Kashmir_ and _Since I’ve Been Loving You_ , if you want European style “symphony” backing, but the whole album is great - especially the bits where the Egyptian orchestra gets going.

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**Author:** ![Smith8762](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@Smith8762](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smith8762)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2007, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/symphonic-rock/425686/25 "2007-11-09T20:18:16Z")

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[QUOTE=ultrafilter]  
You might like Therion or Lacrimosa. But on what planet is Dimmu Borgir a rock band?  
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Dimmu not a rock band? Is Death Metal not a sub genre of Rock \> Metal music?

To the original post, Nightwish’s _Once_ album had a full orchestra playing with it.

Dimmu, Nightwish, Within Tempatation, Epica, those are just a few good ones I can think of off the top of my head. I’ve also recently been sampling Graveworm, Agathodaimon, and The Sins of Thy Beloved, all good symph metal, but not as good as the afore mentioned stuff.

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**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2007, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/symphonic-rock/425686/26 "2007-11-09T21:24:44Z")

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[QUOTE=snowblindfrog]  
Dimmu not a rock band? Is Death Metal not a sub genre of Rock \> Metal music?  
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Not all metal is rock. Some is, and some is similar, but there’s too much that’s too different from rock to be considered as part of it. For the record, Dimmu Borgir plays symphonic black metal, not death metal.

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2007, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/symphonic-rock/425686/27 "2007-11-09T22:59:17Z")

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Rick Wakeman’s **Journey to the Center of the Earth** and **Return to the Center of the Earth** were done with orchestras, the first one live.

There is an **Orchestral Tubular Bells** and an **Orchestral Hergest Ridge** , The second never got released, but I have it on a bootleg.

Working with orchestras was quite popular after Days of Future Past came out.

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**Author:** ![Gary\_Robson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gary_robson/32/3448_2.png) [@Gary\_Robson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Robson)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2007, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/symphonic-rock/425686/28 "2007-11-09T23:43:10Z")

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[QUOTE=Kilvert’s Pagan]  
Emerson, Lake & Palmer, [Works I](http://wc10.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:0zftxqt5ldse) (not my favorite album, but **Pirates** may be a good example of what you’re looking for…)  
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Ah, one of my favorite ELP songs.

Emerson is a genius. And so is Wakeman.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2007, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/symphonic-rock/425686/29 "2007-11-10T06:41:49Z")

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[QUOTE=Spoons]  
The Moody Blues, _Days of Future Passed_, definitely. That was the London Festival Orchestra behind the Moodies.

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You’ll also want to get [A Night at Red Rocks with the Colorado Symphony Orchestra](http://www.amazon.com/Night-Rocks-Colorado-Symphony-Orchestra/dp/B00007E8LU). It was one of the biggest live events of 1992. It was also released on [DVD](http://www.amazon.com/Moody-Blues-Colorado-Symphony-Orchestra/dp/B000069HQ8/ref=pd_bbs_sr_11/105-9119342-6487660?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1194676273&sr=8-11).

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**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2007, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/symphonic-rock/425686/30 "2007-11-10T07:25:30Z")

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Most of the bands/albums I was thinking of have already been mentioned, but not the [self-titled album by McDonald and Giles](http://www.amazon.com/Mcdonald-Giles/dp/B00006C790/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1194678643&sr=1-1) (with both Ian McDonald and Michael Giles fresh from the then recent disintegration of King Crimson, and the best ever Crimson lineup at that.) While not overflowing with symphonic fare, there’s enough of it on the album that even a die-hard ‘symphonist’ will be more than satisfied.

[QUOTE=Carson O’Genic]  
Uriah Heep’s “Salisbury”  
Pink Floyd’s "Atom Heart Mother "

yeah I’m an old fart  
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Wow! I haven’t thought of **Salisbury** in years. What a great album. A true classic.

And, **Atom Heart Mother** , another “wow”! 'Giants in the studio . . . ’

Great picks, \*\* Carson\*\*!

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**Author:** ![Darryl\_Lict](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7cd45c/32.png) [@Darryl\_Lict](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darryl_Lict)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2007, 10:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/symphonic-rock/425686/31 "2007-11-10T10:00:16Z")

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I know that it was pretty much Phil Spector’s doing, but does the Beatles’ **Long and Winding Road** count?

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**Author:** ![racer72](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/racer72/32/3075_2.png) [@racer72](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/racer72)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2007, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/symphonic-rock/425686/32 "2007-11-12T02:42:29Z")

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Gonna Raise Hell by **Cheap Trick**.

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