# Synagogue shooting in Pittsburgh, 2018 October 27 **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 27, 2018, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/synagogue-shooting-in-pittsburgh-2018-october-27/823600 "2018-10-27T19:57:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2018, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/synagogue-shooting-in-pittsburgh-2018-october-27/823600/1 "2018-10-27T19:57:38Z")
I’m just so angry. > **[Pittsburgh shooting suspect makes court appearance; feds seek death penalty](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/pittsburgh-shooting-today-tree-of-life-synagogue-squirrel-hill-pennsylvania-2018-10-27-live-updates/)** > > Eleven people were killed and six others wounded Saturday at the Tree of Life synagogue in Pittsburgh > [@](#): > > Bowers burst into the Tree of Life Congregation and indiscriminately fired inside while shouting, “All Jews must die,” police sources told KDKA. He was armed with a possible AK 47 and two pistols, a law enforcement source told CBS News. > > Six of those injured were treated at local hospitals, KDKA reports. Four police officers were injured during the shooting. Their injuries are believed to be non-life-threatening. > > Wendell Hissrich, the city’s public safety director, said there was no further threat to the public. He said the shooting is being investigated as a federal hate crime. “It’s a very horrific crime scene,” he said in a news conference. “It’s one of the worst that I’ve seen, and I’ve been on some plane crashes. It’s very bad.” Shooting up a synagogue? What exactly is this supposed to help? Death toll at 10 so far. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2018, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/synagogue-shooting-in-pittsburgh-2018-october-27/823600/2 "2018-10-27T20:13:29Z")
Thoughts and prayers, now is not the time to politicize this, no way to prevent these things, more armed guards. ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2018, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/synagogue-shooting-in-pittsburgh-2018-october-27/823600/3 "2018-10-27T20:13:48Z")
T-5 minutes until either “false flag” or “not a real right-winger”. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2018, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/synagogue-shooting-in-pittsburgh-2018-october-27/823600/4 "2018-10-27T20:14:46Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Thoughts and prayers, now is not the time to politicize this, no way to prevent these things, more armed guards. This will take away from coverage of the already-tragic shortage of Chump rallies! :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2018, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/synagogue-shooting-in-pittsburgh-2018-october-27/823600/5 "2018-10-27T20:17:17Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Thoughts and prayers, now is not the time to politicize this, no way to prevent these things, more armed guards. Horseshit. Don’t let this kind of shit grow. Don’t claim there are “fine people” in a group that walks around chanting, “Jews will not replace us.” Don’t turn a liberal donor into a Jewish boogeyman. Don’t chant “Lock her/him up” for no reason other than you don’t like what they’ve said about you. Don’t blame the victims of terrorist attacks while claiming they’re “fake” and “the enemy of the people”. We’ve seen incredible amounts of political violence in the last week, and Republicans simply saying “What can we do?” ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2018, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/synagogue-shooting-in-pittsburgh-2018-october-27/823600/6 "2018-10-27T20:18:09Z")
I originally posted in the MPSIMS thread but removed it immediately after, realizing it’d violate the “No politics in tragedy threads” rule: > [@Breaking news - Shooting at Synagogue in Pittsburgh](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-shooting-at-synagogue-in-pittsburgh/823591/24): > > This kind of hate doesn’t define us. We’re better than this. Who’s “us”? This guy seemed motivated by the same “oh no scary immigrant caravan probably full of Muslim terrorists and funded by George Soros” bullshit I see all the time. His postings were full of the shit. His last social media postings were towards a Jewish charity aimed at helping immigrants. It doesn’t take Slylock Fox to make a connection here. For certain values of “us”, he seems right in line with what’s going on in America. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2018, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/synagogue-shooting-in-pittsburgh-2018-october-27/823600/7 "2018-10-27T20:23:39Z")
Interestingly, the late 20th/early 21st trend of relatively few incidents of white supremacist terrorism is an abberation compared to the rest of American history. We might just be returning to the longer-term norm – frequent incidents of white supremacist terrorism. I hope not, but this stuff never entirely went away, and they (white supremacists) appear to believe that they are getting stronger. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2018, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/synagogue-shooting-in-pittsburgh-2018-october-27/823600/8 "2018-10-27T20:26:30Z")
Fuck guns, white supremacy, and anti-Semitism. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2018, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/synagogue-shooting-in-pittsburgh-2018-october-27/823600/9 "2018-10-27T20:29:30Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > Fuck guns, white supremacy, and anti-Semitism. You just slagged the entire Republican Party platform. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2018, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/synagogue-shooting-in-pittsburgh-2018-october-27/823600/10 "2018-10-27T20:33:42Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Interestingly, the late 20th/early 21st trend of relatively few incidents of white supremacist terrorism is an abberation compared to the rest of American history. We might just be returning to the longer-term norm – frequent incidents of white supremacist terrorism. I hope not, but this stuff never entirely went away, and they (white supremacists) appear to believe that they are getting stronger. You might be right. Dammit. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2018, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/synagogue-shooting-in-pittsburgh-2018-october-27/823600/11 "2018-10-27T20:35:53Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > and they (white supremacists) appear to believe that they are getting stronger. They are getting stronger. In direct relation to people becoming complacent or even accepting of their beliefs. There was a time when this sort of shit got you universally condemned. Now you get told by the president of the United States that there’s very fine people among you and that people are just over-reacting. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2018, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/synagogue-shooting-in-pittsburgh-2018-october-27/823600/12 "2018-10-27T21:06:59Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > You just slagged the entire Republican Party platform. Nah, I left out deregulation and tax cuts for the rich. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2018, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/synagogue-shooting-in-pittsburgh-2018-october-27/823600/13 "2018-10-27T21:22:13Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Interestingly, the late 20th/early 21st trend of relatively few incidents of white supremacist terrorism is an abberation compared to the rest of American history. We might just be returning to the longer-term norm – frequent incidents of white supremacist terrorism. I hope not, but this stuff never entirely went away, and they (white supremacists) appear to believe that they are getting stronger. Yep. MAGA. Back to the time when everyone but the white male could be persecuted at will. Just for kicks. Clinton called them deplorable. While that’s unfortunate, and possibly got trump elected, I think we should call them for what they are. trump got these folks to crawl out from under their rocks. Let’s get them all out from under their rocks and let them die in the sun. When I happen on a trump rally on the web, I see people asking to be spoon fed lies. They cheer for these lies. They have NO ability to think for themselves. This is clear. Let trump bring them out from under their rocks and see for themselves just how bad it is to support a piece of shit that does not care for them. Come out into the sun trump supporters. The sooner you do, the less we have to deal with another cockroach like trump hiding in the closet. I hate to say it, but the best thing for the future is to have these asshole come out and do more bombings and shootings. Do it now. Round the fuckers up and put them away. ---
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2018, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/synagogue-shooting-in-pittsburgh-2018-october-27/823600/14 "2018-10-27T21:30:45Z")
For fuck’s sake, is America hellbent on keeping [Paul in Qatar’s](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=847379) mass shooting thread rocking along with new entries every few days? ☹ ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2018, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/synagogue-shooting-in-pittsburgh-2018-october-27/823600/15 "2018-10-27T21:32:11Z")
> [@Chisquirrel](#): > > Horseshit. Don’t let this kind of shit grow. ] The post to which you are responding was rather definitely written in irony. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2018, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/synagogue-shooting-in-pittsburgh-2018-october-27/823600/16 "2018-10-27T21:34:15Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > Nah, I left out deregulation and tax cuts for the rich. Don’t forget misogyny. And of course making the USA a laughing stock of the rest of the world. Gonna need a database to track all that is wrong with the current republican party. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2018, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/synagogue-shooting-in-pittsburgh-2018-october-27/823600/17 "2018-10-27T21:39:54Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Thoughts and prayers, now is not the time to politicize this, no way to prevent these things, more armed guards. This _was a political act. And plenty of synagogues have_ armed guards. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2018, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/synagogue-shooting-in-pittsburgh-2018-october-27/823600/18 "2018-10-27T22:10:49Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > This _was a political act. And plenty of synagogues have_ armed guards. See post #15. ---
**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2018, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/synagogue-shooting-in-pittsburgh-2018-october-27/823600/19 "2018-10-27T22:16:56Z")
I remember last time all this type of shit led to the okc bombing and afterward there was such a backlash that these guys hid under rocks for years I think its leading to the same type of situation but I wonder if the outrage after the “big event” will be the same ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2018, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/synagogue-shooting-in-pittsburgh-2018-october-27/823600/20 "2018-10-27T22:24:25Z")
Mass shootings are now the same as Trump’s incessant and blatant lies: they are so frequent, so commonplace, that they no longer have the power to shock and no longer attract attention. They’re hardly news any more, they’re just the norm. It’s the tragedy of modern American times. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/synagogue-shooting-in-pittsburgh-2018-october-27/823600.md?page=2)