# Syria: Is there any way this can end well? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [February 6, 2012, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/syria-is-there-any-way-this-can-end-well/611919 "2012-02-06T01:51:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 117
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/syria-is-there-any-way-this-can-end-well/611919/117 "2014-06-28T22:21:16Z")
> [@NotfooledbyW](#): > > I believe that part of your personal interest at the outset of the ISIS march into Iraq that began in all seriousness on June 10, was to suggest that Obama either lied or was clueless in December 2011 when he supposedly did not see this ISIS driven attack on Iraqi government forces coming. I never said Obama should have seen this attack coming. > [@](#): > > Are you holding that position if Iraqi government forces prevail and drive ISIS back to Syria over the next few months. Are you still beating your wife? However, if Iraqi forces prevail and drive ISIL back into Syria, they will have done it with US help. That does not speak well to the idea that Iraq is “self-reliant”. > [@NotfooledbyW](#): > > I asked if you would think the discussion would be over, which is nowhere suggesting on my part that I think it would be over. OK, I’m at a loss as to why you would ask if the discussion about Syria and ISIL will be over if the Iraqis drive ISIL back into Syria. This thread is about the Syrian civil war, of which ISIL is an important part. --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/syria-is-there-any-way-this-can-end-well/611919)._