# Syria: Is there any way this can end well? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [February 6, 2012, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/syria-is-there-any-way-this-can-end-well/611919 "2012-02-06T01:51:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 135
**Author:** ![NotfooledbyW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f475e1/32.png) [@NotfooledbyW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NotfooledbyW)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/syria-is-there-any-way-this-can-end-well/611919/135 "2014-06-29T17:43:15Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > And yet you have failed to quote where I said that. Why do you suppose that is? > [@Why the US left Iraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-us-left-iraq/690750/36): > > But Obama told us all that he was pulling everyone out and that he was leaving a stable and capable Iraqi Defense Force behind. So, he either lied to us or didn’t know what he was talking about. When did we find out that a large portion of Iraq’s Defense Forces were not capable to maintain stability in Iraq? Had so many ISF troops not shed their uniforms and ran away from the first major challenge in mid June this year you would not have been able to post you insidious accusation against the President that he was either lying or did not know what he was talking about. Why and how could you make your claim if ISIS did not attack the way they did or if the ISF had stood their ground and were driven back in the immediate three days if battle. Based upon your original inflammatory claim about Obama it has to be in your mind had the latter occurred you would have to say Obama was telling the truth when he said he was leaving a “capable Iraqi Defense Force behind”. How can you wiggle your way out of that? --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/syria-is-there-any-way-this-can-end-well/611919)._